#kaz being extra angry he got captured and tortured for even further deceit

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Kaz’s capture being orchestrated by himself and Ocelot headcanon/theory post.

Reposted AND rewritten because Tumblr didn’t save over half of the post I’d made, and then deleted it all entirely when I tried to edit it. Thanks tumblr.

Please keep in mind that this is strictly a personal headcanon of something that is heavily implied to be the case in-game. I’m just having fun here. Because I enjoy thinking and theorizing.

To begin, we know V escapes the hospital with Ocelot on March 11th, 1984. Before that, it takes V just over 2 and a half weeks to wake up. He has three wake-up moments prior to that.

First Awakening.

Second Awakening.

Third and Final Awakening (As well as his escape, so we can assume that this is March 11th)

After Venom escapes the hospital with Ocelot, he’s given the general rundown of what has happened with Kaz so far and what his mission is meant to be. As Ocelot calls it later his ‘warm up’ mission. Which already could imply that this wasn’t meant to be super difficult, so to speak.

Kaz knows that Venom (or as he thinks it, Big Boss) is being rescued at this time, and knows that Ocelot is going to be taking Big Boss onboard the Heiwa Maru to Afghanistan (see this tape here).

Kaz is also just enough in the ‘know’ to know that Big Boss is being held in Cyprus. As mentioned here.

A part where I don’t think Ocelot has been completely honest, is explaining to Kaz that Venom and Big Boss are two different people. That bit I believe has been withheld. It’s possible then that he told Kaz, soon after he got the infamous “V has come to” call, that Big Boss is in Cyprus, and now Kaz has a job to do: create a whole lot of ruckus at the ‘zero line’ to draw the 40th Armies attention.

As an aside, Kaz is also made aware of the ‘V has come to’ code phrase: It was given to him directly, by Zero, at some point.

This then would distract “Cipher” and give Ocelot a more clear opening for rescuing Big Boss. Kaz would-and seems to-have little issue agreeing to this.

 This is the timeline and situation as presented to Venom by Ocelot:

And this is how Kaz explains it later:

Ocelot has a good grasp of how much time Kaz has before there’s real trouble, and Kaz tells Venom that the entire point was that his job was loud, attention drawing and would create some havoc.

Here, their stories appear to be very straight and mesh well with one another. They are, for the most part (save Kaz being unclear about Cipher and XOF and who the true culprit to all this is) on the same page. They both know what happened, how it happened, and Ocelot was there waiting with Big Boss-and with Kaz’s glasses to boot.

Kaz later goes on:

The Skulls did not factor into this plan. Not for Ocelot, and not for Kaz. (I’ll take a second to admit here that I don’t know how they factored in period, as I don’t know why they just..let Kaz go, that bit I genuinely have no answer for. Perhaps I’ll come up with it later, but for now that’s one plot hole I can’t account for)

It’s also interesting that Kaz took the ‘best’ he had. Just to get them killed? I doubt it. The Skulls were a wrench in the original plan that Kaz and Ocelot didn’t-and couldn’t-account for.

This part is intriguing to me, and gives me a thought that I’ll again, admit is a bit far-fetched. “Average rank and file” So, the average grunt. Decidedly not interrogation experts ala Shalashaska type. I wonder if Ocelot possibly counted on this. After all, Kaz can handle himself around a bunch of grunts and average soldiers.

And both Venom and Kaz know Ocelot would be privy to a decent amount of info on the Soviet’s-and the 40th Army.

The Skulls were unaccounted for in this plan. The Skulls were the outlier here (save for again, information Ocelot himself witholds)

Kaz, as he sees it, had a job to do.

As Kaz see’s it, Ocelot (possibly) came up with the following plan for them:

When Big Boss wakes up, it’ll be Kaz’s job to take some existing missions that are considered dangerous and noise-worthy. He creates a ‘distraction’ (in addition to the secret Cyprus attack and other Big Boss that he doesn’t know about, and isn’t being told about) and holds on tight while waiting for Big Boss to come get him. I don’t know if he and Kaz could’ve or did account for just how severely tortured he would be, but in some ways, they both understood and followed the mission plan thoroughly.

This too, coincides with what Ocelot tells Venom about Kaz’s mission:

Ocelot has the glasses, the man, and the mission details. All Kaz has to do, is hold on and hold out long enough. By this point, Kaz must therefore know that Big Boss is awake (and gets Venom instead, but of course, this is not the part of the plan he’s in on).

He’s pretty disoriented when we rescue him (if you want a refresher, see this time stamped  1:01:42 youtube video from Kefka Productions here) but he’s ready and able to be talking once in the chopper.

It’s a crazy plan. It’s a downright batshit plan, but it’s also the kind of plan I could see the two of them coming up with.

I’m sorry if I forgot any other details, and if I think of some later, I’ll post them. Losing many of my thoughts in the original deleted post didn’t help.

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