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vtori73 · 3 years

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Okay so... I'm making another post again about this (CW for mentions of Biphobia and transphobia):

Only it's not ABOUT this but it's about what I as a queer ACTUALLY care about in terms of rep and such. Real quick I will say that as much I do agree with SOME of these being bad fancanons for being negative/stereotypical whatever I ALSO think claiming some of these as outright harmful is a bit much & grasping at straws a bit.

Anyway moving on, right now I'm seeing specific Lesbians are harassing the writer of the new Harley Quinn Comic eat, bang, kill tour because they wrote her as Bisexual... not a decision the writer made herself but something that was WRITTEN into the original show that the comic is following.

Like... I'm sorry but first things first based on facts if you know anything about Poison ivy before recent depictions she has been heavily represented/written/depicted as straight, I don't believe if she's ever 100% stated as such but... come on, no straight people were back then, media still doesn't feel the need to state characters as hetero because our society very much does the whole "assumed straight unless stated otherwise." And Poison ivy, in certain depictions ive seen at least, comes off VERY much as for the male gaze and I know lesbians are used this way often BUT this isn't as often in certain media like comics (or wasn't common) where they usually would prefer them be open to men so the demographic they care about can fantasize about being with the character.

Second, this IS definitely being fueled by racism since the writer is Black woman (not mention also queer & disabled) and so far the people responding have been white or at least one of the main ones is.

Third, this is just another one those things that to me REALLY shows how Biphobic certain parts of the Lesbian community can get.

Like I'm sorry, what I'm about to type of probably going make some upset and scream "lesbophobia" but I HAVE to share because I can't be the only one who feels this way... I feel wary around Lesbians online sometimes, not because of any stereotypes but because I've SEEN how openly, some Ive followed even in the past, are to complain about us (Bi+) people and openly explain how they DONT want to share spaces with Bi woman. Look I get wanting to hangout with people just like you, BUT its weird how quickly some Lesbians are to want to discard us and not relate to us because we possibly may like, talk about, be in relationships with men and it's even MORE weird that that's a determent to y'all even though these same types of lesbians make their whole identity/community dependant on men (I'm sorry but even if it's specifically about hating men ur still at the end of the day... making it seem like ur sexuality/community hinges on men) and not you know... loving woman.

I've seen some Lesbians complain about how they need Lesbian ('only' heavily implied) bars and how its annoying that bi woman go to them. And countless of stories of Bi woman being shunned, turned down for being Bi, no I'm not saying that is so awful Lesbians don't want to "sleep" with us (why the parentheses? eh just that I'm not going to assume ALL anyone wants to do after meeting in a bar is to fuck it's probably a good chunk of the time but not 100%) I'm saying it's pretty Biphobic, bigoted, etc to turn someone down JUST for being Bi, you obviously only have a problem with Bi people being Bi.

And also yes we do get hurt because duh its Biphobia but we also are ultimately glad to know because we wouldn't want to sleep with Biphobic people anyway we just want y'all to acknowledge it for what it is, a bigoted prejudice, no not a boundary but a Biphobic preference. I know a lot won't get that and scream "it's a boundary, it's a boundary!" and I don't know if they do this to Bi woman who say it but if this was about Trans woman they would also add "you just want to rape, coerce, harass Lesbians into sleeping with you" & usually paired with plenty of misgendering. I feel like I have seen it but only more so in terms of gold star lesbian rhetoric instead of terf rhetoric.

Either way, it just kind of sad, frustrating and annoying that Bi+, trans, etc can't DARE to bring this stuff up without being called Lesbophobic (just using this term would get me harassed & called a bigot on Twitter because it "contains a slur") because we SHOULD be allowed to bring up stuff that hurts us but we can't because LGBTQIA people seem to have this unspoken hierarchy of who gets cared about, believed, listened to first and it's definitely seems based on the order of the letters in the alphabet soup.

But anyway yeah, I have a hard time taking the post I shared an image of above seriously when stuff like I wrote above is going on. Yes I do think being critical of fandom in terms of bigotry is important, ESPECIALLY racism because that honestly is one of the BIGGEST problems since fandom is dominated mostly by white people (specifically women & queer people) however... I don't think the above is a decent example of that, it condenses the issues and leaves out so much needed nuance and such (yes this is cropped so it doesn't include some of the other additions to it but tbf from what I remember it didn't really add nuance, just clarifyed what the first post was doing).

For example, a Bi person headcanoning a character Bi a majority of the time should not be considered Biphobic, even if the character is a negative stereotype PLENTY of people do this as a way to reclaim the character from the bigotry that was written with it. Or the above, if someone hc's a character who is a badass as Bi there shouldn't be an issue. Now if a Bi person hc's others like the above there MIGHT be an issue then. Also, not to mention that identities intersect, if a pan ace person want to hc certain characters a certain way that could be stereotypical should we label them xphobic regardless of their identify?

I just think the original post it too vague and paints all fandom hc the same regardless of who is making them and like I said before, while this can be a problem I have more of an issue with this new trend of shutting down others hc because others claim the character even though the characters specific id is never said & thus should be open to anyone (example: Lesbians claiming its bigoted or get upset at others for hc a character as Bi that they hc as Lesbian even though the character was originally written straight or is very heavily straight coded and/or had relationships with men). Also fandoms erasing characters identities that are outright stated or implied is ALSO a huge thing I find to be more of a problem then the above post (examples: Luz Noceda from Owl house is stated by the creator as being Bi but people are calling her/them (her & her girlfriend) lesbians; another one that I feel is SORT of a problem but I also can't 100% condemn people who do this because the show doesn't help with continuing to be vague about it is Bob Belcher & him being hinted at being Bi but is erased by straight and gay(LG) fans as being straight).

Also I don't apologize for all of my examples being about Bi people, biphobia, etc because I am Bi so that is what I know and experience first and foremost!

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fransaix · 7 years

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ohiekhe - draws underage pony porn, pinups of underage characters, and straight up porn of underage characters. also draws pearl, a canon lesbian, having sex witha man which is lesbophobic. i need brain bleach

zebirdbath - draws pinups of underage characters (including stevonnie) and over sexualizes women and trans characters. (stevonnie is nonbinary or trans)

courierdelivers - draws porn of underage characters, including summer from rick and morty who is 16 at best. doesnt tag any porn as nsfw.

lil-area/lil-area-sfw - draws between friends and who knows what else kind of content that depicts minors having sex and subjects minors to it (since its quite easy to find)

pixpixelboy/pixelboypixelgirl - admits to being a pedophile, draws mewberty star raping marco, which is rapeplay and all characters are underage. (and mewberty star is more or less a mindless beast, so its also bestiality.), allegedly drew themself as a child character having sex with another person in the fandom who was allegedly drawn as an adult.

ellissummer - draws pinups and porn of underage characters including teenagers (who are under 18) from the total drama series

raico-sama - draws porn of underage characters involved with adults including jackie lynn thomas, sexualizes princess marco (may have drawn porn of her, too) which is fetishizing trans people.

spyroforlife/tomco-week - draws pinups of underage characters, such as tak from invader zim (shes meant to be the same age as dib, give or take a translation of irk and earth years.), writes porn of underage characters (she has an aged up fic but she also has a lot of underage oneshots), has a hidden nsfw blog that she directly mentions on her links page that she doesnt link because she doesnt want “antis” to report it. defends other pedophiles included on this list despite the fact they draw blatant sim cp.

hatbotx - draws suggestive art of adult buff marco slipping the dress off teenage trans princess marco. sexualizes trans marco in general, which is fetishistic.

pinecesttrain - writes porn of underage characters for certain ships, including jarco. also writes for and supports pinecest, which is incest and abuse.

doodling-dood - talks extensively about minors having sex, draws billdip, which is pedophilia (since dipper is a minor and bill is a centuries old demon) and is also abuse because of the power bill has over dipper.

seddm/wholesome-week - talks in extensive detail about sexualizing minors, asked an underage fan to call him daddy, has attempted to try and groom a minor, homophobic and transphobic. talks about how he wants a private, adult fan only clip of star and marco having sex.

7-shiki - draws oversexualized art of trans marco which is fetishizing trans people. draws suggestive art of underage characters including tying star up and showing her ass and underwear.

arthurstrangerguy - draws suggestive art of minors..... and draws nsfw of two characters i dont know who may be minors and refers to underage boys as shotas. (gross.)

professordoctorc - fetishizes fat people, draws incest between moon and eclipsa, in which moon is still maybe a teen and definitely not 18. draws suggestive/nsfw art of other underage characters.

cannonsensei - draws porn of underage characters and pinups of underage characters, including star.

its-gonna-get-a-little-weird - draws suggestive starco art that implies marco looks up her dress or that star is grinding on amrco. draws suggestive art of d.va from overwatch, who IS 19 (according to the gamepedia) but draws her in a way that makes her look underage. (as in, under 18)

darkjazmin11 - draws suggestive+nude starco art as well as tentacle rape of two characters who look really similar to star and marco.

bugsecks - draws underage porn of characters from various things, including pokemon trainers (who are in the 10-17 range, considering you start your pokemon journey at age ten usually)

dezzone - draws copious amounts of oversexualized pinups and underage porn of underage characters including marco. tags stuff as yaoi which is fetishization of mlm relationships.

lairofdoom - draws pinups and porn of underage characters, including jackie lynn thomas. doesnt tag anything as nsfw.

marcoharem - ships (maybe draws? i didnt wanna stick on their blog for too long) marco with adult women like heckapoo and eclipsa and calls it his harem which is racist and abusive. (do y’all even know what a harem is for real)

svtfoe-meme - creates memes that put underage characters in suggestive, transphobic, or literal nsfw situations. like “star cums to earth” (i didnt bother watching it ive already seen enough disgusting porn for one day tbh.) also supports between friends and promotes it.

bhloopy - draws suggestive and underage porn of various characters, including joey from hiveswap (who is probably 14, and under 18.)

mrcbleck - drew underage starco porn. (on their blog it says all characters are 18+ but star still looks like shes under 18.)

ellipsesarefun - ships and supports otayuri which is pedophilia. yuri is 16 and otabek is 18+ (i wouldnt even list this person if they werent in the svtfoe tag.)

i’m not linking to their blogs or the content i found from them, you can find it yourself or by searching the svtfoe tag.. and these are just the people who have posted within the last 11 days. there are PLENTY more.

#dangerous people #you wanted proof fam come get it lol

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