#miguel and spider society assumes miles' action causes that unravelling. ESP when taken in conjunction w miguel believing his own world

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i don't personally agree with the perspective that "miguel NEEDS to partially correct about canon events, otherwise he's a villain" because like. setting aside the issue of possibly naturalising the irl choices writers made (e.g. fridging gwen) through the concept of 'canon events', to me defining miguel's morality comes down to two questions:

What is Miguel's intent when pursuing his goal? <- it's unambigiously heroic. he desires to save people. and -

Can I plausibly understand how he has come to the belief system (and therefore goal) he has? Yes. I can understand why, when viewing the things he did (universal patterns of suffering between spidermen & the trauma of that dimension collapse), he came to the conclusion he did.

Keep in mind the other bits of information we and the characters are working with are:

Anomalies seem to affect the world they're in (Vulture appears to affect the Guggenheim's structure w glitches)

They're also in danger of dying if they don't have a stabaliser like the watch

But say for the sake of argument Miguel is completely wrong about breaking canon and doing so would not endanger anyone and the alt dimension collapsed for reasons utterly out of Miguel's knowledge or control. That still doesn't negate the heroic intent he operated by nor his desire to save people.

What "How much or little is Miguel correct?" affects is how tragic it makes Miguel's guilt and the moral concessions he feels that guilt about. Whether you would argue for it being needlessly tragic or bleak is another conversation entirely but how correct he is about what damage canon events cause doesn't actually change the fact he operated on sincerely good and heroic intentions.. And I think atsv already sets up that last point in an understandable manner.

#long post #tunes talks spiderverse #she came. she never shut up about miguel. she posted fdshfkshdfjsd #the reason i outline the knowledge of what seems to be the unquestionable consequences of anomalies in alt worlds #is so you can understand why miguel occum razor's miles changing canon as the reason theres a black hole under pav's world #we've already been shown it's possible for anomalies to affect the stability of a world (this seems to be a quiet change from itsv) and #spot firing up a baby collider and using his powers didnt open up a black hole under 1610 new york (as far as we know) #so if youre already predisposed to believing fucking w canon will cause harm i can understand WHY even if i think hes not correct #miguel and spider society assumes miles' action causes that unravelling. ESP when taken in conjunction w miguel believing his own world #jumping caused an unravelling and he applies that same fearful reasoning to whats happening here #i dont think hes correct but i understand WHY he came to conclusion he did esp when u keep in mind the kind of doublebind #miguel is IN already when it comes to being terrified hes got it wrong all over again but also being terrified of the stakes HE LITERALLY #THINKS HE EXPERIENCED (and he DID experience that trauma. even if it turns out it happened for a reason that wasnt his fault or even #related to him being in that dimension at all)