#not exclusively about romantic love obvs but on god no one i like ever returns my feelings for them

[sarinataylor]

Reverse blind date Joger where someone deliberately stands Roger up to teach him a lesson because he is such a player and John watching from the bar realises he is upset

oooooh ok. ok. ok

so roger is like. he’s got a rep around campus? it’s not necessarily a bad one per say, but. he’s pretty and he’s confident and yeah, he dates a lot. bc roger is a secret romantic tbh ok

not like freddie’s a romantic though. like freddie wants to fall in love and then never ever ever break up with the person he falls in love with because he wants to buy a house and forty cats with them. like freddie genuinely believes he’s incomplete without someone to love and be loved by in return which roger thinks is Super Unhealthy

so roger’s not romantic like that. roger just…. enjoys the excitement of  first date? getting to know someone, letting them get to know you, enjoying those first flushes of could-be-love. roger even somewhat likes when things start to fall apart bc there’s beauty in that too. there’s something beautiful in being able to recognise that you’re not right for another.

so he dates a lot. which, again, isn’t a bad thing. he doesn’t date for the sake of dating? he just. if there’s someone he finds interesting or attractive or funny? he’ll ask them out. 

(this is how he met brian who awkwardly agreed and then blurted out half way through dinner that he was straight, he just didn’t know how to say no. they stay for the whole meal and end up somehow being like… best friends by the end of it.)

(a lot of roger’s friends are people he’s dated in the past, actually)

but yanno for every sort of ex that you’re on good terms with there’s gonna be someone you’re. decidedly not. and ok, rog will be the first? (maybe second actually, freddie will generally be the first) to admit that he’s sometimes not the most….. tactful at breaking off some of the more casual dating he does

like he doesnt ghost on actual relationships but there’s…. there’s definitely some ghosting that’s gone down in the past. some very early cases where he wasnt very clear on the non-exclusive nature of the dating??? 

he was young(er) and stupid okay he has like. a comprehensive set of rules now (a. establish that dates are not exclusive unless explicitly discussed, as all major relationship developments should be. b. no fucking the people you date unless you’re interested in an Actual Relationship bc it blurs lines!!!!! it confuses ppl!!!!!! c. if someone has a rep as a clinger listen to that reputation instead of their insightful analysis in class. the reputation precedes interesting dinner conversation. every. time.)

(brian is like???? have u heard YOUR reputation???? and roger is like well yeah but. no one calls me clingy, do they? which brian has to concede that, no, they decidedly do not.)

BUT the important thing to note here is that roger dates a lot of people because he genuinely enjoys dating people, he enjoys getting to know people. he asks out people who he finds interesting for some reason or another. he’s not offended when people say no, like. that’s fine. 

but yeah. he gets stood up. 

which? it’s like. the first time it’s ever happened. and it’s embarrassing. like, if they weren’t interested he would have preferred they just said. but it’s fine? like. he’ll just. eat on his own. that’s fine, he’s not too bothered though he does wish that they’d like. messaged him to let him know they were standing him up so he could have ordered earlier instead of waiting half an hour

but then they Do message him. a catty message along the lines of “now you know how it feels to be let down. maybe you’ll think before you do it to someone else again” and That upsets him because… he’s never stood anyone up???? would never intentionally leave someone waiting????? and he’s Grown Up since his first year of uni where he ghosted people like. he’s really upfront nowadays but he just sort of. starts spiralling a little bit sat at the table gulping down red wine like???? fuck???????

a fun mix of anger that this was clearly something this person PLANNED and also anxiety that maybe he’s been doing this to people this whole time and he just never noticed???? he’s an Awful Person and he just. didn’t know. 

(which like. the sheer amount of his ex-dates, ex-fucks, and straight up exes that are still friends with him sort of implies that this is not the case? one of his exes is getting married in six months and he’s one of the groomsmen somehow like.)

and JOHN is sitting at the bar. like he’s waiting for his roommate to finish her shift so they can head home together but her shift’s been extended so he’s just. hanging out. eating complimentary bar nuts and being slipped sneaky beers by the on floor manager. and he’d noticed roger walk in, roger had ta’d one of his classes a year or so back and he knows his rep, and he’d sort of been looking forward to watching The Master At Work

like. he was gonna take notes so that he and ronnie (roommate, obvs) could laugh about it when they got home

(roger totally asked ronnie out once. she didn’t even answer, just walked away. she was annoyed at how charming the sound of him laughing as she did so was. she sort of hates him that “he’s never done anything to me and everyone i know who knows him says he’s a nice bloke BUT I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT” kind of way)

but uh. yeah. he’s been stood up. 

and john’s like….. damn. like, he wouldn’t even stand roger taylor up. he’s always been kind of glad that roger’s never asked him out, and never will bc…. he’s p boring and not like ronnie or brian or anyone else roger’s dated, bc he knows he’d say yes and then ronnie would never let him live it down. not ever. 

and like he seems to be rolling with it? he orders himself a bottle of wine and an appetiser which has john like Damn the man be RICH

(the man be decidedly NOT rich and is definitely not going to be able to pay for the bus for the next week now he’s spending his “extra” money on bottles of wine rather than the glass or two he had planned to buy. but whatever, he can walk it. not to mention splurging on the bread platter instead of the bruschetta. he’s been stood up, okay??? if there was ever a time to eat All Of The Carbs and wash it down with two bottles of wine, this would be it)

and then after like one glass? of wine? he just seems to sort of curl in on himself???? and he seems genuinely upset???? like he’s tapping sort of frantically on his phone and he didnt even say thank you to the waiter who brought over his Bread Palooza and john doesnt know him well but. he never seemed the kind of guy who wouldnt thank wait staff okay?????

and before he can even stop himself he’s trailing over there, bar nuts in hand, and awkwardly standing next to the table silently. 

and roger is like distractedly not even looking up from stuffing bread into his mouth and texting freddie who isn’t responding which means, he guesses, that he didn’t get stood up on his date tonight. bully for him. so roger’s like yeah thanks mate not ready to order my main yet. 

and john’s like…. uh. ok. and just thrusts the bar nuts he’s had in his hand for like. ten minutes under his nose like you look sad, do you want a nut?

and roger looks up and just sort of blinks at him for a long moment before bursting out laughing like yes yes i would like a nut, thanks, john

which has john flustered bc a) he’s a MORON oh my god “do you want a nut”??????? what is he????? he wants to DIE and also b) roger. remembers his name?????????

so john stammers out an apology, explains he’s waiting for ronnie (”ronnie…. oh, uh, you probably don’t remember who she is, she’s-” – “your roommate, right? i forgot she was a waitress here, actually. how is she?” – “….. she’s good. sorry, how do you know she’s my roommate?”)

which leads to roger inviting him to sit down as a family of four tries to move past him, but can’t because he’s making a bottleneck in the aisle

so john. sits. bar nuts still in hand. 

(knees weak, hands sweaty, restaurant’s bar nuts. would the real slim shady please stand up?)

and roger’s just hella casual like “yeah just got stood up bc im an awful person, how u been”

and john’s like uh technically i asked for none of that information 

and the waiter comes and interrupts as roger sort of just blinks at him bc john is Not The Best at unplanned social interaction. like john approached him??? but ok. and the waiter is like um? hi john? given up on waiting for ronnie to finish?

as roger slam dunks his last glass of wine 

and john is sort of like ohw ell. this guy used to be my ta and he looked sad because he’s been stood u- oh my god, im so sorry

and roger is just. you know what? this has been fun. i’ve really enjoyed the multiple levels of abject humiliation that i have endured tonight but i think i’m going to cut it short and just chucks  thirty quid on the table like thanks (to the waiter) and good luck with the, uh, engineering? degree, i think? (to john)

who is bewildered bc how the fuck does he remember what degree im doing from the round of fucking ice breakers we did in the first tutorial of a class i took LAST YEAR 

(roger’s party trick is remembering like. everything about ppl. you know in that way that really popular people have where somehow they can remember that your second cousin twice removed got married three years back, despite not seeing you since a month before the wedding, and they’re asking how it was using the NAMES of the bride and groom (who. they’ve never met) and you’re like??????? i fuckin forgot the grooms name what the FUCK. i hate these people with a passion. nice people? the worst. john feels much the same as i do)

and before he can even say anything roger has just…. slunk off into the night. leaving him with the waiter who is quite happy about the ten pound tip, and a hand full of bar nuts. 

anyway roger goes home to cry at brian who is like. ur not a bad person, people just….. come to conclusions about ur behaviour based on the exaggerated experiences of others. but u also WERE sort of a dick when u were 18, but so is…. like every 18 year old so i honestly just wouldn’t torture myself ab it so neither should u

(a boldfaced LIE. this conversation leads brian to spend the entire night staring at his ceiling and reliving that one time he forgot to say thanks to the bus driver when he was 16. the bus driver hates him, he knows. also he used to have super unacknowledged misogynistic and racist unconscious biases that had been pounded into him by society and he’s still trying to rectify that and????? oh GOD)

 and the next day, after he’s been convinced that he’s not the scum of the earth by brian, he rocks up outside of john’s class (which he abuses his access to the university database for the first and last time to find – he also tells john he did this immediately bc he’s like SO I PROBABLY CROSSED A BOUNDARY BUT IT WAS THIS OR STALK RONNIE AT WORK UNTIL SHE GAVE IN AND I THINK THAT WOMAN HATES ME i see her glaring all the time and idk why) and totally asks him out because…. well, he was interesting, wasn’t he?

#Anonymous #this is LONG #joger hc's #headcanon asks

[otomates-a]

@ohireath ↪ PROMPT.

               “I... liiiiike Ashy. You know, like... LIKE-LIKE her. That’s kind of... scary, right? ‘Cause she really... deserves better than the situation I’ve put her in. But she’s stubborn, so that’s that, I guess. She’s lucky she’s so pretty or I’d spend less time staring at her like an idiot and more time questioning how totally lame we are.”

VISUAL ATTRACTIVENESS: 💗💗💗💗💗 (MAXED) (purely aesthetic appreciation of looks)

Idk if you know this, but Ashy’s pretty KJNHMKJM. Ichthys is 100% the type to dote on her literally every time he sees her when it’s appropriate to do so: she’ll certainly never have to fish for compliments, because he thinks her face is the bee’s knees. 😂 He’s also super into stuff like noticing how someone dresses and all that and he thinks !! Ashy is the absolute cutest !! He’ll buy her new outfits and give them to her bc he thinks she’d look beautiful in them that’s literally the only reason i’m kjnhmkhjm.

FRIENDSHIP LEVEL: 💗💗💗💗💗 (MAXED) (how close a friend they consider them)

Ichthys is theoretically not difficult to make friends with in general, but it’s hard to like... GENUINELY befriend him beyond a surface level, bc obviously he keeps a lot of secrets to himself regarding his illness and so on. Because he knows he’s dying, it’s best to keep people at arms length and just be silly / aloof BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT KIND OF !! GOES OUT THE WINDOW WITH ASHLEY SO KJNHMKJNM. It goes without saying that he’s far more open and genuine once she Knows(tm) what’s going on with him & esp once romance has come into play bc there’s no reason to push her away. That being the case, she’s put at the same level, and then even higher, than the gods he’s friends with and he’ll be there for her whenever she needs him to be, because he knows that he’s hurting her bc of his condition, so the least he can do is be a good friend before even being a good boyfriend.

SEXUAL DESIRE: 💗💗💗💗  (HIGH) (wanting to have sex with them)

ICHTHYS IS ... NOT SHY LMAO. He’d be pretty open about being attracted to her after they’ve started a romantic relationship, it’s just a matter of not wanting to be the one to pursue it first because??? given the implications of his situation and how iffy he is to pursue anything in the first place, he wouldn’t let himself be the one to bring up the possibility of sleeping together in case of offending or hurting her. It would either have to be Ash who asks him first or if it just happened naturally w/e. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t consider it before then and isn’t interested, he’s just Cautious(tm).

That being said, after the bridge is crossed, he’s pretty openly flirtatious and comfortable just Bringing It Up Completely Straight-Faced so 😂 he goes with the flow, so it’s very RARE he initiates anything even after the first time / it’s a Big Deal when he does, but he’s also a tease so even if he’s aware ashy is interested he’ll make her work for it and i’m.................... sobbing

ROMANTIC INTENT: 💗💗💗💗💗 (MAXED) (hoping for a romantic relationship)

THEY HAVE A SHIP TAG, HAROLD KJNHMKJHNM. Honestly, though, even before they became a Thing(tm), Ichthys probably would’ve started being unmistakable with his intentions at some point even though like... he Knew it was bad and that he Really Shouldn’t... ~around the point Ashy starts making it clear she thinks she has unrequited feelings for him, he’d steadily start to go into “fuck it, i’m going for it” territory and step by step start getting more & more blatant w the fact he’s romantically interested.

AFTERWARDS THO IT’S OVER FOR ASHLEY, ONCE SHE HAS HIM, SHE HAS HIM SO SHE BETTER BE READY KJHNMKJN. ichthys goes ALL IN when he loves someone, he’ll openly show it all the time, literally everywhere, just sitting at home or out in broad public daylight, he’s SUPER PDA AND DOKI POSITIVE LMAO. if ash asks him to stand on a table in the middle of a food court and scream that he loves her romcom-style he’ll do it without missing a beat, so at least there’s that b/t all the angst and dying

               “Ashley is a good friend. It makes me happy being around her... she has that kind of face that just really lights up a room, you know? I worry about her a lot, though. I hope she knows how amazing she is... or, at the very least, how amazing I think she is. I care about her, but I don’t know if that always comes across. I know what it’s like to feel invisible, you know?”

VISUAL ATTRACTIVENESS: 💗💗💗💗 (HIGH) (purely aesthetic appreciation of looks)

ASH 👏 IS 👏 PRETTY 👏👏👏 KJNHKJNM. The clash here comes in terms of fashion styles : Toma is super into grunge and punk and stuff like that, so their personal styles clash, but that being said (it’s aesthetic KJNHKJNM). He thinks she’s beautiful though bc like... bruh... toma voice have you looked at her henlo. he’s a walking fashion disaster so she shouldn’t take too much stock in his opinion anyways. in fact, she should help him. god please. i’ll PAY her.

he’d give her bomb hair accessories, though, that’s his one strength in fashion... 100% his favorite feature of hers would be her hair... he’s weak idk

FRIENDSHIP LEVEL: 💗💗💗💗 (HIGH)

(how close a friend they consider them)

Obviously, they need some work, that’s the entire basis of the relationship BUT KJNHMKJHM. BUT !! toma is ... a genuinely good person beneath his Issues and ashley is also a good person, so the fact he sees her as a genuine friend and trusts her is very important and a step in the right direction, because he uh. HAS A LOT OF “””FRIENDS”””” WHO ARE NOT GREAT, so this concept in general is foreign to him. he’s not used to someone caring about him, nor would he be adjusted to the idea of someone calling him out on being problematic. he Does want to be a better person, so ashy being there for him to try and help him reach that goal would mean the Absolute World to him and he will do literally everything in his power to return the favor and help her where he can.

SEXUAL DESIRE: 💗💗 (A LITTLE) (wanting to have sex with them)

Toma IS shy when it comes to crossing this line, so it takes a little bit of work. Their relationship needs to progress to a healthy point before he’d be willing to go to this level, because he doesn’t want to ever put someone he cares about in a position that they may regret later? He’s very hard on himself and that makes him lack confidence, so he’d never let the idea of sex cross his mind until he’s certain that he’s in a good place and the other party, in this case Ashley, is also in a place within their relationship where it’s okay. So, like, the Attraction is there because he can’t control that, but the desire to actually think about it or go through with it Won’t Be, until they mutually agreed it’s a good time (obvs, once things are exclusively romantic, he won’t sleep with a friend.)

ROMANTIC INTENT: 💗💗💗💗 (HIGH) (hoping for a romantic relationship)

TOMA IS A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD BECAUSE HE’S VERY BLATANTLY ROMANTICALLY INTERESTED WHEN HE GETS TO THAT POINT, BUT HE’S ALSO BLATANTLY A BIG FUCKING DUMBASS KJHNMKHJNM. assuming it’s at a point where things are gucci, it’s fine, romance is an option now on the table...... ASH IS GOING TO HAVE TO DRAG HIM DOWN BY HIS COLLAR AND SCREAM DIRECTLY IN HIS FACE THAT SHE WANTS TO KISS HIM OTHERWISE IT’S NOT HAPPENING, toma will deadass convince himself that romance is entirely impossible and his feelings are one-sided to the point he’ll unknowingly hurt his own feelings every other day thinking about how there’s no point confessing bc they’re just rlly good friends. and he’s happy to be rlly good friends, but it still hurts. but x 2 he won’t discuss it with them, he’ll just make assumptions and carry it on his shoulders and let it build up KJNHKJNM SO .... HAVE FUN WITH THAT

#ohireath #two flavors of idiots for u ash KJNMHKJHNMKHJN #* . °◞ ❤ ( &OHIREATH : ashley/ichthys ) although our vows are broken‚ i will meet you there with the words we left unspoken. #* . °◞ ❤ ( &OHIREATH : ashley/toma ) your home is far and my friends are fake‚ but hand in hand‚ we’ll clear our way.