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#or you forget your headphones and he brings them to you on your lunchbreak so you don’t have to sit on the train home in silence
kingkatsuki · 1 year
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Just thinking about those soft, mundane moments with Bakugou.
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UO: i think Dean was more mature in the seven first five seasons of SPN. I don't say it's OOC of him but it's not a good evolution. Even John managed to do better.
I agree. In the beginning, Dean showed a willingness to hold himself accountable and to take responsibility and recognized his faults and did try to learn from his mistakes. For about the first seven seasons, Dean as a character was progressing at a very organic pace. I may not have agreed with everything he said or did within the first seven seasons but as a character arc, it was progressing at a very smooth pace. He was beginning to understand himself, theworld, his place in the world and working through his issues. But starting from season 8 onwards is when I feel like his character arc was starting to reach a stale-mate with the writing. It was at this time-period when the writers were facing the issue of possibly this show not really having an expiration date. They had no real way of seeing the end and if you don’t have a plan for when the story is to end, you can get stuck. I’m sure the writers have always had an endgame for Dean in mind but without knowing when they were going to be given the greenlight for that endgame, they’re just kind of stuck wallowing with him as a character in the middle. And me personally, I don’t find Dean’s character arc to be all that complicated or complex, after season seven, there really wasn’t that much left to arc. But since the higher-ups kept on telling the writers to keep on writing, they were kind of stuck and Dean just kind of stagnated. Like you said, nothing he does is OOC it’s just not a great evolution for his character so this also can be seen as bad writing too. I mean, if you’re hinging Dean’s entire development based on one character arc, you’re basically setting yourself up for failure. A character’s development is based around multiple character arcs that deal with a variety of issues. We’ve seen Sam and Cas deal with a variety of issues that’s lead to their character development and character growth but Dean, for the most part, just seems to focus on the same basic thing (the abuse he suffered). So when we get the things that we’ve been getting such as what we got in Season 14, it’s like, “I understand why Dean would behave this way” because unfortunately, it is consistent for his character arc. And that’s kind of the problem. It’s consistent for him as a character but it’s been going on for so long that I just can’t really excuse it. His anger that leads to these very childish tantrums where he throws things around and says very hurtful things to the people he supposedly loves, whereas maybe you can understand that if you’re someone in your 20s and are still relatively new to adult-hood and very much still have some of your teenager tendencies intact but since Dean is now in his 40s it’s like, “okay, when is he going to learn that this is not acceptable behavior? This is not how people deal with conflict.” Like, when I watched the “you’re dead to me” scene or the absolutely sacrilegious breaking of the guitar, it was so textbook Dean to me. I watch these episodes while I’m on my lunchbreak and I have my headphones in while watching the episode on my phone and when I watched those scenes I knew instinctively too turn down the volume because, “okay, this is escalating, okay, we’re nearing the part we’re Dean’s going to start throwing shit because that’s what he always does in these conflicts.” It’s so textbook that I can legitimately time when Dean’s temper outbursts are going to happen. And the positive police can excuse Dean all they want but these outbursts of anger are not okay and when you look at Cas and Sam’s expressions, particularly in the “you’re dead to me” scene, they look frightened. Someone who supposedly loves them is making them afraid. But it’s never brought to any sort of self-reflective attention. Dean never reflects on this behavior and considers maybe this isn’t okay. I mean, let’s not forget that in Season 13, Dean
legitimately kidnapped Kaia, a scared teenage girl at gunpoint, and coerced her
to help them and this ultimately lead to her death. When dark!Kaia brings it
up, people, like always, are quick to pat Dean on the shoulder and say, “don’t
worry about it, you’re fine, this is you and that’s okay.” Where when Sam or
Cas do bad things, they’re spending multiple seasons trying to make up for it. And
I’m just saying, that if I was hanging out with the Winchesters and Dean got so
angry about something that he just needed to break something and he chose to invoke
that anger on my acoustic guitar, he would’ve found my fist colliding with his
face, if he wants to break shit when he’s angry, then I’m going to avenge my
guitar by doing damage to his face (or at least try to anyway) and then I would
demand he buy me a new guitar. Here in the real world, you break someone’s guitar, you’re expected to replace it. Good quality acoustic guitars aren’t cheap and
also, Dean, show some damn respect to music, geez.
At this point, I’m sick of people defending Dean’s behavior
with him having underwent so much trauma and that it’s perfectly natural for
him to react the way he does. While I certainly agree that he has gone through
a significant amount of trauma and abuse, that doesn’t excuse him from abusing
others and treating the people he loves badly. Eventually, we have to ask
ourselves, when is Dean finally going to work through the abuse? I mean, I’m
sure it’ll happen in season 15, but regardless, that is incredibly too long.
And John showed some real character growth particularly with the 300th episode in mind. But even as far as season 1 by itself is concerned, he did show a capacity to work through issues. Something that Dean has been lacking in the latter half of this show. Now granted, the show was always going to spend less time with John so his character arc moved at a much more rapid pace because of that. But even so, my original point still stands that you probably shouldn’t revolve a character’s entire emotional development based on one character arc. Individuals are complicated, there’s no one, all-defining cause for how we behave, it’s an amalgamation of different things and for story-telling purposes, you should be diving into all of those different things, not just focusing on one thing. 
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