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tea-cat-arts · 1 year

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For today’s “I can’t sleep so I’m gonna rant about fiction”

So basically, here’s why I think that is:

Up until HoD, every Herrscher had been a previously human character we either knew directly from the main story or a character that is attached to someone who is a part of the main story. This created a sort of push and pull where the world was being affected on one front, but our mcs were being affected on entirely other one. Sure, Anna was destroying a city, but that matters a whole lot less than the parallel between the Anna/Crow romance and Kiamei and wondering if our girls are doomed in the same way. Honkai’s strongest writing has always been in its character dramas and relationships, so I think this format worked perfectly.

HoD departed from this by having no personal attachment to our main girls. It honestly seemed more like a vessel to repeat the plot points and themes of the story up until that point back to the audience. It didn’t even know how to hurt the gals personally, each attempt at throwing them into despair was met with a quick “no, you’re wrong. Stfu.” HoC is really more of a plot device than anything. It does what it needs to in order to make the plot happen, but that’s about it. None of the flame chasers seem to have much emotional investment in who the Herrscher is, just in stoping the damage it’s doing.

Anyways, here’s my “off the top of my head, written in two minutes” pitches for how I would’ve handled these Herrscher:

I basically would’ve combined Everlasting Flames with Thus Spoke Apocalypse. I think it would’ve been interesting of HoD was a direct product of Otto’s experiments and was using one of the soulium bodies as the base host. It’s rather outdated reads on the girls could be a reflection of his lack of understanding of them and how they’ve grown. I think this would also create a more gradual transition between the arcs. Have HoD come from the beginnings of Otto reaching/communicating with the Honkai gods. The experiment goes out of control and Otto is actually forced to reach out to his enemies to solve the problem. As he works with them, he sees how they’ve grown and determines they’re ready for the next stage of his plan. Otto being the cause of the major problem could also be his public reasoning for retiring. Side note, but in this version of events, I’d have Kiana only partially become HoF and not have her gain full control of the form until fighting Otto.

I think my pitch for HoC involves less canon changing? Anyways, I’d have HoC be the direct product of Mei’s desperation. I’d introduce the core back when she joined World Serpent by having Kevin directly give it to her and have Mei use it to take back the HoT gem from Kiana. I think this would also put Mei in a greater debt to WS since I’m this scenario, they actually did give her the tools she needed instead of just showing her how to get the tools herself. I’d have the core lay dormant for a couple chapters, slowly gaining more and more power as Mei confronts more Herrschers and gets more desperate. I’d still have it awaken at the same time as it did in canon, but this time, it’s personality would be a corruption of Mei’s ideals that came as a side affect of being with WS. HoC puts the flame chasers into their ideal lives without their consent as a more extremely version of what Mei did to Kiana by deciding what’s best for them even as they scream “I don’t want this.” An added bonus of this would be that by defeating the Herrscher, Elysia would be visually defeating that part of Mei. I think it could be a nice visual representation of how Elysia calmed Mei down and helped get rid of her impatience and desperation.

Anyways, this has been my TED talk. It’s 5am, goodnight/good morning

#honkai impact #honkai rambling #once again I have no idea if I’m making sense #but here we are #Everlasting Flames was the worst arc in Honkai. if this is the hill I die on then so be it

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herrscherbled · 3 years

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@otverzhennyy

Have you thought about our current Raiden Mei and Dr. Mei ?

To be honest, I still have a hard time with it, but I think it could be similar to parallel lines between certain important characters. They are very different people unrelated to each other, but they are important figures in the story of their eras. Just like Kiana and Kevin are the main heroes of their eras, Dr. MEI and Raiden Mei are dark horses of their own eras, showing determination to walk down the darker path in different ways. The same with Herrscher of the Void and Unknown God. Or the Mora symbol and symbols on Elysia’s uniform and Mobius’ signet. There seem to be hints at each world, but is it just parallel lines for each other world or not, I can’t say.

No one from MOTHs notes on how similar Dr. MEI and Raiden Mei look, meaning that they are not connected. Honestly? I don’t have many thoughts aobut them besides the thought that it seems like there has to be a familiar face in each era and in each world of Genshin/Honkai Impact. PE: Dr. MEI, CE: Raiden Mei, GI: Raiden Shogun. I think it’s just connections between worlds/eras, nothing more on that.

#this is a ramble im sorry rtouybty #otverzhennyy #∴∵ ϟ ∴∵ 「 MIHOYO PLS STOP HURTIN’ 」 out of character.

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