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#there are mcu gotg choices i will defend and then there's the gamora situation that makes my eyeballs shoot out of my head
phantastragoria · 1 year
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Wishing so bad rn that Gunn fought harder/cared more to not let main timeline Gamora get completely sidelined (outside of her own trilogy no less) in favor of bringing in an alt version for what I know will end up just being "Peter has to let her go and move on" resolution like no! I'M not moving on! I WANT THE CHARACTER YOU STARTED WITH TO GET AN ACTUAL RESOLUTION, NOT AN ALTERNATE VERSION OF HER BEING USED FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S CHARACTER ARC!!!
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caatws · 11 months
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I saw vol 3 again because I wanted a second pass at it before landing on my final thoughts. The conclusion I've come to is James Gunn didn't want to talk about Gamora being murdered in the movie because he knew it would provide a strong contrast between Gamora being killed in Infinity War and how he wrote this whole story about Rocket deserving to live and not have his life taken away by his abuser. The contrast isn't pretty. But the truth is nothing about how Thanos treated Gamora was pretty. Covering that up doesn't make it go away. He didn't want to do the hard thing of acknowledging that 2018 Gamora wasn't getting a happy ending with eveyone else. That 2014 Gamora wasn't getting a full story because her life got thrown off course when she came to the future and she didn't get much time or space in vol 3 to reconcile the different parts of herself.
I noticed a few people have been really confused or upset about James Gunn calling the ravagers Gamora's real family. After seeing vol 3 again I'm confident in saying his comment is wrong and also insulting to the entire situation. The premise of the movie is Gamora has been avoiding the guardians and hearing anything about a different life she had. I really do wish this had been explored more but for now I'll add it to my list of things I wish were better for Gamora. As the film continues eventually Gamora finds her own rhythm with the guardians. We see her be the one to stab the High Evolutionary and unmask him. This is actually a pretty meaningful moment when considering what went down in IW and also how at times Gamora isn't used to her potential in the movie. After that she's all in helping save the animals and kids and generally being a guardian. She also has a sweet moment with Groot at the end where she can finally understand him and they have what I would say is an exchange that parallels vol 2 when Gamora stopped to tell Groot goodbye and make sure he would be okay before leaving with Ego. This change in her comfortability with the guardians and with knowing about and experiencing a life she had been avoiding has to mean something. It wouldn't make sense for her to not be considered family when going through things together and finding understanding and moments of connectivity is what makes the guardians a family. The family keeps getting bigger. It's added Mantis, Kraglin, Nebula and even Adam and blurp by the end. Why wouldn't she be family too. So I don't know what James Gunn was talking about. Either he worded his comment badly, forgot how he's written his own movies or he was being a jerk to Gamora, but either way I don't really think his comment needs defending. Also I'll add to this that Gamora having a change in how she feels around the guardians and having moments with Groot and Peter is probably the best writing for her in a sea of other stuff that wasn't written very well. If I were James I would want to hype that up more not less. It's the saving grace along with Zoe's acting which he honestly should be praising because she carried that role where the writing failed.
Sorry this got so long but I have been saving up all my thoughts. Thanks for letting myself and others share even if it's cost you some followers. That's there loss though because you're awesome.
yeah the contrast between rocket and gamora's overall stories from vol 1 to now is just....Wow Choices Were Made. kinda along the same lines of how i think gunn was maybe more unserious abt the gamora thing than i would've expected, i'm wondering if he had this like way more optimistic pov that like 2014!gamora finding a new/additional family away from the gotg would be like a fix-it or catch-all of sorts and that ppl just wouldn't rly care abt it deeper than that...? cuz otherwise this whole thing is just so messy and not cohesive lol
but ty anon !!!!! <3 i'm always here to process mcu nonsense with everyone <3333 we can suffer together LMAOOO
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