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#to be clear i know those examples don't make sense and are a frankly hilarious bunch of books to have chosen.
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It's hilarious to see the antis losing their minds over Daemyra's HBO video called Love Story. They keep repeating that this is grooming and that the relationship should not be romanticized and glorified. It's frankly worrying to see all these people throwing around such a serious word so seriously when they probably don't know the definition. Book or show, Daemyra is not grooming. And these people make me laugh. They complain about seeing Daemyra as a romance when that's what it is. It's not because there is an age difference and incest that the relationship is toxic, open a history book for pity's sake people... A bit of culture. The toxic elements of the show don't even exist in the book. Like Daemon's delirium taking Rhaenyra to the brothel in episode 4 (and even if it has a toxic aspect, not only that, it's also a liberating scene for Rhaenyra's character. It's a complex scene. Gray. Not black or white) Or even when he strangles her in episode 10. (which many people point out elsewhere to counter the video, while once again, in the book it does not exist, and this scene has already been criticized a lot for its inconsistency...) Even if also, I don't know in what world these people live, but they are aware that a romance can have problematic aspects in fiction? This is nothing new. Especially in fantasy universes. This tendency to associate love with a situation only deemed pure is also worrying. Especially in a fictional format made for entertainment. Also, worst comment: "Everyone forgets what Emma D'Arcy says about Dameyra?!!!!!!!" As gospel. Let's be clear, Emma D'Arcy is a human being who can and does say stupid things, exactly like calling Daemyra grooming. Especially since in the same interview where she talked about it, she was completely wrong about Rhaenyra's age! But hey, since it's a trend in this fandom to rejuvenate Rhaenyra to make her appear underage in episode 4, I imagine that people don't care about this detail. Plus, for what it's worth, she's also spoken highly of Dameyra in different interviews and even said she would read fanfiction of them. 😂 So frankly, it makes me gently laugh at those who promote Emma D'Arcy's words as the ultimate truth. Worse, there are even people who don't like Rhaenicent and claim that it's a better romance than Daemyra. In what ? In the show, apart from the completely occ strangling scene we can't say that Daemon actually did anything bad to Rhaenyra. While I recall that Alicent, not only in addition to having injured Rhaenyra, giving her a lifelong scar by having tried to take Lucerys' eye, well she harassed her and her children for 10 whole years, threatening peacefully the lives of his children. Not to mention that she then usurped him, while hiding the death of Viserys while she crowned Aegon II. But I guess a woman can't do any harm so all that doesn't count...
I stick to the principle that actors are only actors, the same people as you and me, and their words are not prophetic revealed truth. They can be smart, or they can be completely stupid. In fact, an actor is a tool to bring the writer's and director's vision to life, so just because an actor says X doesn't mean the writer will be wrong when he says Y. People ALWAYS have a problem with character relationships in books and movies. Sometimes these problems make sense, and sometimes they come out of nowhere. I would understand that people have a problem with Daemyra because they think that incest is wrong and there should be no exceptions even for a culture where it is normal. Or that they think there is too much of an age difference between them. People have this right. It was similar, for example, with Darklina. When people said "I think that Alina and Aleksander shouldn't be together because he is much older than her, so they have too much of a generation difference" it was okay, it was their right. But when they said "he is a pedophile because he wants to have a relationship with a teenager!!!1" it was already wrong and untrue. And it's exactly the same with Darklina. People do not focus on what could be a problem, but invent their own problems, using big words that they do not know the meaning of. They throw around "pedophile" and "grooming" left and right, even if the situation does not fit the definition of this meaning in any way. I do not understand this. If you don't have any real, valid arguments as to why something is bad, why would you want to argue that it is?
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saw a vaguely positive recommendation of Some Desperate Glory by emily tesh from a couple of lesbians best known to me for objectifying fictional men on twitter so i went out and bought it (because i am not financially responsible and i trust the taste of these lesbians) and then i read the entire thing in two days and frankly i think i might not be able to carry on living after this. it was. well it was really good. like it was just. well. it was really good.
#like do you ever read a book and immediately go . i NEED to get high with an english major and a bisexual bioethicist RIGHT now#so we can have a DISCUSSION . about this book.#it's like. okay when i read catch 22 i NEEDED to lie on the floor of a high school hallway and stare into the fluorescent bulbs afterwards#(didn't get to. but it was what i NEEDED.)#when i finished little brother i needed to go wander around the basement of a home hardware.#and when i finished regeneration i needed to sit quietly and hold it in my hands like it was an EXTREMELY fragile bit of lead crystal#and when i finished enders game i needed to like. go write a novel that i had yet to conceptualize. again i didnt do this. but i needed to.#when i finished a marvellous light i needed to hug my kitty cat gently!#and now having finished this i need to smoke a fat blunt with an english major and a bioethicist.#to be clear i know those examples don't make sense and are a frankly hilarious bunch of books to have chosen.#but . Well. They were the ones i thought of.#it's just like!!!!! okay!!! so a computer cannot be held accountable and must therefore never make a management decision!!!!!!#so what does a computer that is smart enough to KNOW THAT#do when it is presented with a management decision???? HUH?#WHAT DOES IT DO???????????#there's so much good SHIT in that book! there's so much!!#it's like that. You get it.#like it's a book about omnipotent AI but the AI is neither a hero nor a villain. it's not a character at all.#even when it IS personified that personification is done with a lot of complexity#and a REALLY gorgeous distinction between literal personification -- creating a person to serve as an interface --#and the assignment of a person to serve as an agent --#and even that latter category isn't treated simply. because of course an AI cannot assign a person to serve its will.#because it doesn't have a will.#OR DOES IT. etc. this question we will of course debate eternally. this is how they get you. BUT YOU GET THE IDEA.#AND THE AI STUFF LITERALLY ISN'T EVEN THE CENTRAL QUESTION OF THE PLOT!!!!!!!!#like it IS a book about AI but it's. actually not really.#the question is not 'does AI exist' or 'is AI right or wrong'#but rather 'what do the possibilities presented by AI force us to confront about the nature of ourselves and our desires?'#and the plot isn't about the AI. it's about that nature of ourselves.#it's about cults! it's about misogyny! it's about rape culture! it's about eugenics! it's about the creeping realization
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