#vicki / guthrie / joe was also there I think? form the supernatural persecution side; with roger batting alone at enlightenment reason.

[widowshill]

this is just an idle thought so i'm not sure i can word this well but there's ... something about supernatural narrative ambiguity (such as in cases like carmilla) that really interests me with V's ultimate fate. i.e. i think in one reading ... she did fall from the cliffs that evening at widows' hill, just like carolyn prophesied she would & roger joked endlessly about, and liz did not save her. and victoria getting her quote "happy ending," miraculously getting sent back to be with her vanished husband into a long gone century, returning to an earlier past, is just the silver telling the story version of it. her Savannah, if you will.

"I had to return him to an earlier state of being." / "I found a way to reach into the past and undo it." / "To the rest of the world, they simply cease to be."

moreover i think it's Compelling who liz is with when she finds victoria in each case: professor stokes as V contemplates suicide on the hill, and barnabas when she vanishes into the past with jeff. stokes, who certainly is more than involved with the supernatural but who comparatively represents rational thought, research, learning, Truth and accepting even difficult truth ( "I'm afraid, my dear Miss Winters, that if he is here, he feels as I do. Your place is here. Your time is now. The only way you can join him is to die." ) and barnabas of rewritten myths, of vampires, false identities, the transmutation of women's very sense of self, who has never accepted anything be it feeling or fact and has made every effort to forcibly change it, even if that is only in the telling.

#david did not tamper with roger's brakes – matthew knew they were loose and the part fell out on the road. #i didn't kill paul – he abandoned us and i am waiting for him. #victoria winters didn't commit suicide – she went into the past to be with her husband. Liz Stoddard Truth. #sometimes it's convenient to me that she fulfills the prophecy. sometimes it's convenient that she gets trapped in The Past. #sometimes! she lives and marries roger and adopts david and has another kid and they all live happily ever after. #same story different versions. #victoria winters is like a photon interference pattern. miss particle and wave. anyway. #i don't think there's a lot of that kind of thing in ds over all – as a cohesive thing it's very much Monsters Real ! #but especially in laura's first appearance there is a tiny bit left open to wonder if it's just paranoia #vicki / guthrie / joe was also there I think? form the supernatural persecution side; with roger batting alone at enlightenment reason. #and david playing laura's role (laura carmilla) caught in the crossfire between them. the little car mechanic tidal chart understander #photography developer that is ALSO big time into ghosts and spooks and crystal balls ! #➤ ooc. ┊ she’s nauseous，she’s hysterical，and she’s exhausted.