#we do not know Edgar Yronwood's marital status at the time of his death

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i'm actually writing a meta rn about anti-dornish racism and i've made the point that while some dornish do have paramours, the westerosi have the EXACT SAME THING, except they call them "mistresses" and like to pretend that they don't exist

Yep. The only difference is that these women are not typically treated like lesser than dirt in Dorne and their children aren’t best kept out of sight and out of mind like the rest of the Westerosi do. To think that some are fond of claiming that Dorne accepts adultery as a way of life simply because they treat women and bastards as human beings....

I’ll also add that having a paramour does not necessarily mean adultery. A paramour is a lover taken outside the bonds of marriage but not necessarily as a mistress on the side for a married noble. Oberyn was not married, neither was Arianne or Lewyn Martell. They had paramours but they were not cheating so to use the argument that Dorne permits paramour as evidence that they were fine with adultery or that Elia was fine with Rhaegar impregnating Lyanna has no basis. Sexual relationships outside of marriage is acceptable in many countries IRL, but that does not mean that a person would automatically be okay with their partner cheating. That’s silly and minimizing. It restricts faithfulness to marriage and marriage alone, and treats monogamy as a practice for married people only. It’s the same thing in asoiaf. The Dornish can take lovers without marriage, but this is not an automatic cultural allowance of adultery.

#lyannas #Sam replies #asoiaf #asoiaf meta #dorne #she is dornish syndrome #westeros laws and customs #I'm trying to think of all the dornish characters known to have paramours or bastards in the text #and I can't recall anyone who was married #we do not know Edgar Yronwood's marital status at the time of his death #nor Ryon Allyrion's when he had Daemon #(though I'd wager it was before he was married to Ynys considering Daemon's age) #not that one separate case would prove dornish allowance of adultery #people do cheat everywhere it's the concept of cultural permission of adultery that is the subject of discussion