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Just some guy? Sally Jackson is a queen among mortals
falling in love with a god must really suck because you love this immortal force like they are humanity’s perception of nature literally incarnate and you’re just some guy???
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Why do people see Sally Jackson talking back to TV Gabe as proof TV Gabe isn't abusive? Her son's life is in danger and she needs that car to save him. Sally was willing to fight a minotaur to protect Percy. Absolutely she would be willing to argue back to Gabe to protect Percy
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People are so clueless. She isn't holding back because her son's life is in danger. She was willing to fight a minotaur to protect Percy. Ofc she would be willing to stand up to a human
Just saw someone on TikTok say that Sally Jackson isn’t as sympathetic as an abuse victim, because she fights back.
Someone hold me back.
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Also people say if TV Gabe was abusive then why is Sally talking back to him? Uh maybe because her son's life is in danger and she needs that car to save him lol
“Gabe isn’t abusive in the show” ARE WE WATCHING THE SAME SHOW???
Gabe is literally introduced by yelling at someone who, when Percy apologizes for Gabe’s behavior, says “I’m walking out, you’re walking in. I should be apologizing to you.” And then Percy reluctantly and slowly walks inside. And Gabe immediately starts in on him (calling him “Genius” in a mocking tone) as Percy repeatedly expresses that he just wants to talk to his mom ( and Gabe’s subsequent “Is that all you have to say to me?”) The fact that he answered Sally’s phone and acted like he had every right to do so?? The way he shows begrudging respect when thinks Percy was violent towards another kid at school?? The “you would think that because you’re a child, you don’t understand things…” The way he gets annoyed that Percy wants to know where his mother is. The “what are we doing Percy? every time! wow…wow!” in such a condescending tone??? Percy’s immediate alarm when Sally calls Gabe’s name. Gabe immediately yelling at Sally, not knowing anything about Percy’s life (he didn’t even know his school’s name despite literally just talking to them), the way he makes Sally negotiate to use the car (“Why am I okay with this?” “Make sure they put the hot peppers on my sandwich please!”) the way he acts like his tone of voice shouldn’t matter to Sally because he said “please” the aggressive behavior even after he concedes to letting them use the car (getting in Percy’s face, pointing his finger at him, etc.), like???
Just because he isn’t depicted as smacking the shit out of them doesn’t mean he isn’t abusive. He is constantly yelling, even when it’s not necessary, and is overall condescending and rude towards both Percy and Sally. He has a positive reaction towards the idea of Percy being violent, which means that he probably has no problems getting violent himself, even if it isn’t show on screen. The fact that he is constantly trying to redirect Percy and Sally’s decision to make himself the center of it (he is trying to goad Percy into an argument when he gets kicked out of school and overall keeps trying to redirect the conversation back to himself, he acts like he is allowed to breach Sally and Percy’s privacy but then makes Sally get his permission to drive somewhere, and even then she has to give him something in return). Like he is very clearly controlling and emotionally/financially abusive (he acts like Sally’s things are his despite not having a job and likely blowing through their money). It also seems like he tries to diminish Percy’s self esteem, possibly to keep him and Sally under his thumb (it’s a common tactic used by abusers to make the victims feel like the need to depend on the abuser). Overall, just because he might not be physically abusing them, doesn’t mean he isn’t abusing them and doesn’t mean his actions aren’t harmful. Furthermore, just because he isn’t violent on screen doesn’t mean he isn’t violent.
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Thinking about Crowstiel. Again 🫣
And I feel like in the dynamic between Castiel and Crowley, Cas is the more unhinged one.
Like they are both great planners, they have experience and they are also both capable of creating a plan that in itself is insane.
I mean the whole progatory thing was not fun and games.
But Cas would throw himself in fire of he thinks it's viable and can work, whole Crowley would look to get the situation under control.
Because Cas, 1. Had bad self preservation skills. 2. Is used to situations where his opponents are generally more powerful and surprise actually works for him a lot.
Now, both Crowley and Cas love the element of surprise.
But Crowley does it in more Sherlock Holmes way. Because he is more of a diplomat.
Cas does that in a sense he will throw himself out of the window and drag you with him. Cause he is more a soldier/warrior and likes to go messy.
All this just because I had a vision of Juliet and Cas going absolutely feral, while Crowley watched them with a sumg, but find expression.
He would like they are a little over enthusiastic but they are mine and I will grill you in hell fire if something happens to either.
Hmmm... yeah Crowley definitely is more of a diplomat than Cas. But I have a slightly different take.
I don't see Castiel as unhinged. Yes, he throws himself into fire. But those are not just knee-jerk reactions of a hot head. He was a famed military commander among angels, he is strategic and tactical. He used a puny, seemingly suicidal force to punch through enemy lines to defeat Raphael; he used a sigil carved on his chest to blow out four angels; he faked capture by Gadreel to get into heaven to defeat Metatron even when he lost his army. Even his deals with the Shadow, and his final sacrifice, all were calculated to achieve the exact outcome he wanted. Yes, all his strategies involved putting himself in harm's way. But these are strategies nonetheless, they are intentional, they are not about him losing self control. They are about him seeing himself as nothing but a tool to achieve what he believes is the greater good.
In fact, his instinct of self-preservation is perfectly in place. When he gets into a self-defense mode, when he is surprised by attackers, he was effective in killing his attackers. When he was attacked by Rachel. He killed two fully powered angels in self-defense while he was human and injured. He killed various assassins that outnumber him effortlessly (season 5 and 9). Ironically, it is when he does lose control of himself, when he acts on instinct, that he protects himself.
Crowley is certainly very diplomatic as you say, and very calculating. Always acting on self-interest. Yet, I think it was @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell who pointed out that from time to time Crowley gets triggered, lashes out in anger, loses his cool, and acts irrationally, undermining himself. He made some stupid mistakes in S8 finale because he was angry and acted emotionally, and it got him captured by Sam and Dean and ultimately "humanized".
So like, this is my take.
Cas seems to have no sense of self-preservation because he doesn't believe he is worthy of self-preservation.
Crowley is all about self-preservation because that's what he was forced to do from childhood, the only thing he knew; but he loses that instinct when the insult and pain of the world becomes too much to bear.
That's how I see them.
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I'm gonna watch all gifs from the beginning now
This has made me laugh and feel awe
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: Caged Heat (Part 2)
Cas helped Crowley fake his own death to save him from Lucifer.
Episode 27: Alpha and Omega
Having successfully executed an illusion to trick Lucifer, Cas now escorted Crowley to his hide-out to lay low.
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Crowley looked back at Cas.
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Thus concludes the compendium of gifsets that is Crowstielnatural! While it may seem anti-climatic, it means they retire into a peaceful life in a bar. Isn't that worth celebrating?
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the vision of @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell who gave us this AU where the two of them are the main characters! Please let this inspire you to keep imagining their adventures!
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That last paragraph was gold 😂
Thank you 🙏😊💙
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: Caged Heat (Part 1)
Lucifer has escaped the cage and is hunting Crowley. Crowley used Lucifer's soldier Meg and her human allies to set up a ruse for Lucifer. He recruited his friend Cas to help him fake his own death.
Episode 26: Caged Heat (Part 2)
The deception is flawlessly executed by Cas and Crowley.
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"You the calvary now?" On the surface, he implies Cas is the calvary for Meg and the Winchesters. He and Cas know that Cas is the calvary for Crowley.
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Missing scene: flashback of Cas rehearsing this scene with Crowley. "Don't over-act, Feathers."
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Another double entendre- for their enemies, Crowley is sarcastically clapping for Cas finding his bones. For themselves, Crowley is applauding Cas for nailing this scene after all the rehearsals.
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It is time for Cas to burn the bones. He hesitates for a moment, staring at Crowley. "Are you sure?" His eyes say. Crowley looks back at him, biting his lip. " Have faith, angel. Do it."
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As Crowley performs the illusion of his painful demise, Cas never breaks character. He is, in fact, discretely observing Meg, seeing the smile on her face. He is relieved that Meg bought it, and now will report to Lucifer that Crowley is dead.
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Afaic this is canon now. I won't be arguing about it
Thank you 💙😊🙏
Crowley is such a badass fr
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: Brother's keeper (Part 2)
Episode 25: Caged Heat (Part 1)
This episode requires some fill-in-the-blanks. Do not worry, the author of Crowstielnatural has already elucidated it for us in the original post.
Lucifer has escaped from the cage and is determined to hunt down and destroy Crowley. Crowley has a plan for survival and it involves tricking the devil. So he recruited the help of his friend Cas. It was an elaborate plan, but Cas was committed.
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Even trapped and powerless, Crowley overpowered Lucifer's soldier, demon Meg, and her human allies Sam and Dean Winchester.
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All this time, Castiel was just standing there invisibly, watching and admiring Crowley's bad ass moves. But now, it was his cue to enter the stage and play his part. To be continued.
[Also missing scene: Castiel's flashback of being coached by Crowley on the whole plan. "you enter here... you'll encounter the hellhounds here... you'll pretend to be trapped. Sorry, you'll have to be banished for a little bit... You'll have to sell it, darling. Make them believe you are on their side. Kiss the demon, if you must."]
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Np! I didn't want to pressure you into giving a response back so I decided to stay anon until after the person already said sum to me haha 😂
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✨Send this to 10 bloggers you think are wonderful✨
You're wonderful too! ✨ 💙 Did you get an anon ask about this? 👀 That mighta been me maybe 💙
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🥺😊💙 thank you!
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: Brother's keeper (Part 1)
Episode 23: Brother's Keeper (Part 2)
Cas found out Crowley was unloved by his mother, and reacted with disbelief towards Rowena, and sympathy towards Crowley.
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Cas looked at Crowley sadly when it was time to reveal "something Rowena loves", which he knew was not Crowley.
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When Crowley confronted his mother, he started by revealing his pain from his mother's abandonment to someone who understood him- his friend Cas.
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✨Send this to 10 bloggers you think are wonderful✨
Awwww I think you're wonderful too ✨✨✨ 💙 I was the anon who sent you one but I didn't want anybody to feel pressure to send one back just because I sent them one so I stayed anon haha 😂
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💙💙💙💙 awwww thank you! You're wonderful too!
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Amateur? Fam you're an amazing drawer!
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: Executioner's Song
Episode 22: Brother's Keeper (Part 1)
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Crowley gave Cas an angry outburst after he was betrayed by Castiel's human friends in previous episodes.
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Cas understood Crowley's hurt feelings, and he readily backed down.
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Cas put a dramatic flair into his begging, and it pleased Crowley.
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Then it was just staring into each other's eyes.
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Of course Crowley couldn't say no to Cas.
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The chemistry in that last stare though
Thank you 🙏😊💙
I'm gonna watch these posts in order when it's finished 😄
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: Executioner's Song
Episode 22: Brother's Keeper (Part 1)
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Crowley gave Cas an angry outburst after he was betrayed by Castiel's human friends in previous episodes.
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Cas understood Crowley's hurt feelings, and he readily backed down.
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Cas put a dramatic flair into his begging, and it pleased Crowley.
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Then it was just staring into each other's eyes.
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Of course Crowley couldn't say no to Cas.
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People are also surprised that Amerie forgave her like??? Sorry that Amerie has empathy???
What is truly annoying is that people are saying people are dismissing Harper's wrong doings because of her trauma. When really it's the other way around. People are dismissing her trauma because she did bad things. I find more posts and vids telling Harper off than I do sympathizing with Harper's trauma
Harper isn't a perfect victim and the show was so right to give you a victim who wasn't perfect. The message is you don't have to be a great person to be a victim
The issue isn't that people talk about Harper's fuck ups. That's fine. The issue is more there is waaaaaaaaaay more talk about Harper's fucks up than there is of the fact that she was running in fear that she might be raped and lives with a father who she has to carry a knife with her because he might kill her in a meth induced aggression psychosis. That she's literally been in an unsafe home for God knows how long
There is more talk about how Harper was a bad friend and less talk about how the fear Harper felt that night, plus being a teenager where teenagers don't have the most logical way of thinking in general can really twist your perception
To a calm person able to think clearly maybe Amerie didn't hear me. Maybe she's having sex. To a scared person running away from rapists, who is half out of it from drugs and is thinking on fight or flight, all Harper sees is her friend didn't help her "flight" and that she had to go back to her dad
Then after the events of that night Harper was too busy within her own trauma and teenage feelings to think about Amerie's side of the story
There isn't equal posts and vids of both her fuck ups and her trauma. Her fuck ups have way more posts which essentially sends the message that you aren't a victim unless you're a great person
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Thank you 😊🙏💙 the way Cas be looking at Crowley in shock like 😂
Crowstielnatural
Background: This is the preferred order of watching spn where only Castiel and Crowley interactions matter. Enemies to frenemies to friends.
see link for the original idea by @crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell. "Since this is only about THEIR interactions, everybody else is furniture and don't have to make sense" and you can fill in the blanks about what could have happened between the episodes.
Previous Episode: First Blood
In this episode, Cas was determined to help Sam and Dean, and Crowley advised him not to.
(cw blood)
Episode 20: Stuck in the Middle with You
Crowley saves the life of his friend Cas, by breaking a priceless heavenly weapon he could have used against his nemesis Lucifer.
Why was Cas mortally wounded? Clearly, ignoring the advice of his friend Crowley in the last eipose, he went ahead trying to help Sam and Dean only to pay a high price. Thankfully Crowley was again there for him.
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