The downfall of Star Wars rests with producers at Disney who somehow convinced themselves (and us) that a blockbuster trilogy didnât need the presence of any kind of overarching narrative architect to ensure at least a modicum of tonal or philosophical consistency. It was an act of pure hubrisâa supremely corporate, unearned sense of confidence that IP and branding mattered far more than a carefully planned story. In the end, âtrilogyâ isnât even the right word, because it implies the existence of three films that fit together in a planned, form-fitting way, as three chapters of a single story. These films? They arenât a trilogy. Theyâre more like direct rebukes of each other.
Rey taking Ben's things through the course of the trilogy reads differently now. :///
It SURE DOES
Remember when Star Wars said if you have a âbad seedâ kid you should just replace him with a better, ânaturally goodâ kid, to the point where even the âbadâ kid agrees with that fuckery, erases himself for her. And the âgood, deservingâ kid taking over the âbadâ kidâs legacy like a damn cucko bird is framed like a HAPPY ENDING and not a fucking horror show
The reason why she had all his familyâs shit is because they were supposed to get married, you bastards, not because she was a better, more adoptable child!!! She was a fucking grown woman, she didnât need to be adopted!!!!
Force Dyad: a bond formed by two spirits who remain connected forever, whether alive or dead; they will reincarnate to try and find one another in each lifetime, for all eternity.
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Did Chris really just admit that the best bits of Benâs characterization in TROS â literally some of the only highlights in the entire movie â came from nothing but Adam himself?? And meanwhile these clowns who get paid milions to write a script didnât even bother to give him any lines in the second half of the film????
I will never not be bitter about Disney not ensuring that this trilogy had a cohesive and agreed-upon storyline before beginning filming. It could have been so good. I donât care what camp you fall into, I think it couldâve been better if it KNEW the story it was telling.
Instead, it bickered with itself, films undermined each other, and it was incoherent. There were so many good moments or ideas that werenât developed or played out (or they were retconned).
I feel like TRoS tried to appease the fans who hated TLJ, but I think there were cleverer ways to address some of those concerns, complete the saga, uphold the themes from the other two films, and continue the character arcs than what we got. I was constantly pulled out of the film because I couldnât suspend my disbelief any further (which is saying something when itâs a space opera and Iâve had no issue with that in any other episodes of the saga).
I almost hate to complain because I think Disney caring too much about Star Wars The Cash Cow and listening to fans and trying to appeal to majority is what made this storytelling weak and cowardly.
Yes, itâs great to listen to fans, but at the end of the day the creative team has to believe in their story and bravely tell it. But first, they have to know what that story is.
Reasons to believe that Ben is dead:
-His body disappeared
Reasons to believe that Ben was transported to the World Between Worlds and is coming back:
-No Force ghost
-Everything with Leia and Maz: Maz said it would take all of Leiaâs strength to do what she had to do next, Leia knew Ben was going to die, Leiaâs body disappears at the exact same moment as Benâs even though she died earlier, Maz smiles
-The Visual Dictionary established that Exegol is linked to the World Between Worlds
-The fissures on Exegol have a transportative vergence: a high concentration of the Force
-Ahch-To, where Rey saw Benâs silhouette behind the mirror, is also linked to the WBW
-Reyâs Jedi texts contain information about the WBW
-The voices in the Rebels WBW episode include the following: Rey saying âweâll see each other again, I believe that.â Ben saying, âShow me grandfather and I will finish what you started.â and Maz saying âthe belonging you seek is not behind you.â
-Rey looking up at the stars on Exegol and hearing voices is extremely similar to Ezra being surrounded by stars and hearing voices in the WBW. Direct parallels were drawn here.
-Ahsoka was one of the voices speaking to Rey even though sheâs not a Force ghost. But since Exegol is connected to the WBW this makes sense.
-Itâs likely Palps was able to come back because of Exegol being connected to the WBW
-Speaking of which, Star Wars has a habit of bringing back âdeadâ characters
-The WBW is a collection of doorways and paths that exist between time and space. The prophesized âdyadâ connects two individuals across space and time.
-A dyad is something incredibly rare and powerful - it hasnât been seen for generations. You donât set this up just to go nowhere with it. There is crazy opportunity here for future stories with these two and what they can do with the Force.
-âStand together, die together.â âThe lifeforce of your bond. A dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations.â This entire speech is about the two of them together, alive or dead, and the power of life that their bond is.
-The story is continuing on. Kathleen Kennedy literally said that theyâre not abandoning the characters created in the most recent trilogy
-The setup for the new story is obvious. Besides needing to get Ben back and him and Rey being a dyad, we have Finn being Force sensitive, something he kept wanting to tell Rey but never got around to doing. We have Rey with a new lightsaber. We even have Lando asking Jannah where sheâs from and when she said she didnât know, he said to her âletâs find outâ.
-At the TROS premiere Kathleen Kennedy also said this: âWeâre completing the saga. Weâre not finishing the Skywalkers necessarily. They can always, in one way or another, reappear. For right now it is bringing it to a close.â
-Matt Martin gave us this hint:Â âWeâve seen characters come back before so itâs always comes down to the story being told.â
-Dave Filoni, who would know how upset we all are, gave us a lovely Christmas present of Gandalf talking to Ahsoka saying âPeople thought I was dead too. Look how that turned outâŠâ
-Star Wars knows that Ben is their most popular character. I mean heâs winning the poll on their website by around 86-90%. The next highest is Rey at 3%. They canât possibly be that stupid. Keeping Ben around equals money for Disney, and Disney definitely wants money.
Havenât we always been right before, about basically everything in this story? Ben being redeemed. Reylo. Them having a Force bond. Ben not slaughtering the students at the Jedi temple. Snoke lying about creating the Force bond and it happening during the interrogation scene. Palpatine speaking through the Vader mask. Star Wars has lied to us about many things before, but they always leave in enough clues. They give you enough information that if you want to figure things out, you can, and as a group weâve always been the ones to understand these clues.
Also one last thing: didnât we predict before this movie that Ben would die and be brought back? We literally saw this coming. The one thing we didnât realize was that this wasnât the end of the story and that itâs still continuing on. And Star Wars, being extremely evil, just happened to cut off before the resurrection part.
And I know itâs a long shot (and Iâve had a glass of wine) BUT. What if the reason they changed the ending was that they realized almost in the eleventh hour that they had something huuuuge on their hands. So huge, in fact, that it threatened to overshadow everything in the Galaxy far far away; even to the detriment (in some eyes) of the saga as a whole: REYLO. They *had* planned to end the movie with a happily ever after if weâre to believe the rumors. But the epicness of Rey and Ben, and Daisy and Adamâs magnetic on-screen chemistry, would be an opportunity too good to miss. So they would have asked very nicely* (*đ”đ”đ”) if both would be willing to come back to continue their story. And if they said yes, in would make sense (in a marketing sense. NOT in a satisfying ending of the Skywalker Saga sense, but hey itâs Disney) to leave their love.. unconsummated. Then they rushed through the making of TROS, peppering it with nostalgia to appease the fanbros and thrill the general audience. âDONE AND DONE. Now. Where were we?â (jk or am i)
Iâm aware of how everyone is saying that there isnât going to be any more with the characters from the sequel, but Ewan McGregor had to keep his mouth zipped for sooo long before he got to say they were making a movie about Obi-Wan..
Hey I know Iâm just torturing myself. But a woman can dream, canât she?
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