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I think you handled the post about Terry Jr’s design really well! To be fair, I honestly imagined him as white when I listened to the podcast originally 😅

I think you’ve definitely got his personality down, hes on the same level of dumbassery as Nicky half the time. I don’t know why people write him as the competent one of the kiddads, he’s a substitute theatre teacher who kills monsters in his spare time but let a teenager push him “ass over teakettle” down a flight of stairs. I love him, he’s literally my favorite dad in season 2

Thank you, The new Terry design is dropping on Tuesday so I hope it's well received.

Also I totally agree! I think the Fandom has a big problem of mischaracterizing Terry which is very unfortunate because I think he's one of the characters Antony did the best job of portraying in season 2. Terry's lame! He's goofy and he tries too hard. He's off putting and kinda mean to the other kids who aren't his stepdaughter and it's REALLY funny. He stumbles over his words and stutters and is so awkward even when he's fighting Glenn to the death. He cries the most of all the dads. He had to stop and consider if closing the doodlers asshole would kill it. He has a mixed-to-negative opinion of Lark. People often portay him as the therapy friend you go to when you need to talk. Hes NOT that. He is sometimes the voice of reason and the straightman but hes mostly too caught up in his own shit to really be that for the other kiddads.

He's a mess! He's MY mess. I love him.

#txt post #dndads #terry jr stampler

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It's so funny how in vampire Terry jr aus ppl like to portray him as this like; sexy, gentle, swave vampire as if he isn't the same guy who got loony toons-ed down a flight of stairs, somehow fucked up fingerguns, blew up a car engine by accident, and watches top 60 inspirational sports moments and cries.

Terry is so fucking lame. He caught the weird from Ron. And he has the world's worst luck. NO ONE is letting his ass bite them. He's slicing a central artery by accident. You're bleeding the fuck out and HES the one crying about it??? In your last moments its awkward and you feel bad for him.

#terry jr no one gets you like i do. i am entraced by your strange and off-putting nature #dndads #dungeons and daddies #terry jr stampler #terry jr #terry jr vampire au #shitpost #might make a funny lil post where its terry asking all the other season 1 kids as teens if he can feed on them. but idk

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The only time Henry ever said he forgave Sparrow was when he was pretending to be Lark.

#sparrow oak #henry oak #lark oak #dungeons & daddies #dungeons and daddies #dndads

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The bad kids going through Kipperlilys file has made me love her i fear. She’s just Ocean from ride the cyclone.

She is CURSED by the narrative to be an npc and she HATESSS it.

AND SHES GAY FOR LUCY FROSTBLADE

#fhjr #fantasy high junior year #d20 fantasy high #fantasy high #d20 fhjy #dimension 20 #lucy frostblade #frostlily

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Hey, different anon but as someone who has listened to all of the Talking Dads I wanted to second that the flack you’re getting for this is completely unjustified.

I think the Talking Dad episode where the fandom’s headcanon of Terry being Black is discussed is ep38, and the conclusion is that they think it’s a cool headcanon and they didn’t anticipate it, but they in no way canonized it. Furthermore, at other points they’ve specifically said they don’t consider things exclusively discussed on the after show as canon, so you’re double good.

I’m really sorry people are going after you for this. They’re the ones being out of line and out of touch, and I hope you’re able to step away and relax today.

I was already a bit suspicious of the claim that it was confirmed in the the talking dads because I figured if it really was canonized, it would've spread through the Fandom like wildfire and I would have definitely known about it before now.

Unfortunately, now it just seems like one of those cases of lying on the internet to win an argument. Hopefully, it wasn't intentional and just an honest mistake on their part, but It doesn't feel great that I was kinda confronted over information that wasn't even true.

Idk. I still get where they were coming from. And I really never wanted to make anyone feel shitty. But I really wish this could've been handled differently

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I didn't listen to s2, so my mileage might vary but cast actively avoided associating any race with any character in s1 Except Meryl Streep being Chinese American in ATMOD confirming that Glenn has that background similar to Freddie.

You haven't done anything wrong based on cast putting details behind a paywall, and no, TJ does not read Black inherently in the cover art. He looks like Ron.

Yeah, in season 2, taylor is also frequntly described as chinese, especially in a bit where he tries to introduce himself as the ambassador to china. And the Oaks, (minus Henry and Barry) are all hispanic, often speaking in spanish and refernacign spanish foods. So i was under the impression that if Terry WAS intended to be black, they would have implied it somehow in the actual show.

I also just assumed that the season 2 cover art was nothing more than a suggestion for the kiddads and a template for the teens. Not hard canon. I haven't seen anyone really use any of the designs for the kiddads anyways. And yeah, Terry does definitely look like Ron in that art.

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Hey, just wanted to say that I thought you handled the whole Terry Jr being black post very well and very civilly. Even while faced with backlash about your design, you responded politely and respectfully.

I also didn't know it was confirmed on the aftershow that Terry and Samantha are black, not having access to the patreon, though I happened to headcanon them as black beforehand anyway. Personally, I think it's unfair to expect someone to know what has or hasn't been confirmed by the creators when the information is behind a paywall.

Also, there's nothing wrong with having different ideas than what "the fandom has decided". The whole point of fandom and diversity means people interpret things differently. While I understand how your designs along with the character's individual stories could be easily misconstrued, and that should definitely be taken into account, you haven't done anything wrong by interpreting a character a certain way, especially when they barely have any confirmed physical appearance on the show itself.

You said you're working on a redesign for Terry, but you shouldn't have been bullied into it. I understand that the original post was mostly a vent about personal experiences and feelings, and that's valid. There was probably a more respectful way to handle to situation though.

To end this tirade, let me just say that I think your artstyle is adorable

Thank you, that's honestly very gratifying to hear. The whole situation was unfortunately pretty stressful, maybe just because I'm a very anxious person, but it was really eating away at me.

I said this before in the post, but my first experience with a podcast was the adventure zone where designs were fully up to interpretation, so it was maybe my bad coming into dndads with that attitude. I've seen fanart of pretty much all the character in all different races, including Terry jr as white, so I kinda just took that as confirmation that this was the case.

The thing is with the patreon paywall is that I AM a patron, so I would totally be able to look up the talking dads episode if someone directed me to it, but no one has yet. and the op never responded to my request for it. Even though I will be changing Terry's design regardless, I would still like to see what Anthony said since I've never seen someone say it was confirmed before.

I also fully agree about not loving the whole "the Fandom has decided" thing. There will always be exceptions to the rule. I've seen plenty of people draw the characters in plenty of ways and that, to me, the fun part of podcasts. That there is no ONE design. And mine was just an ingredient in the pot of the Fandom. People who don't draw and just enjoy fanart have the ability to basically shop for what designs they like best. They can choose one person's Lark and Sparrow designs, and another person's nick design. It was maybe small minded of me to assume that people would just keep scrolling if they didn't like my designs. The op called me a popular artist in the post and I've never been a popular artist before, so it's also possible that my work might me kinda hard to avoid if it's near the top of searches. Especially with how much I DO draw Terry and with the unintended message of "good dad = white guy" which was obviously never something I was trying to convey.

In regards to changing my terry, I do have to admit that I am sad to see the old design go, and I don't feel awesome about how we got here, but I do really like the new design and hopefully you guys do too. I didn't change too much since I still like alot about the old design and changing how i see him in my head isnt gonna be a fully new design, just necessary tweaks on the template, but it'll hopefully be a good change.

I never imagined I'd be at the center of something like this, and it really didn't feel great, haha. Especially when looking at the comments on that post of people saying they've been avoiding my art because it makes them uncomfortable, something I NEVER wanted to happen. I just really hope I can turn it around and the people who avoided me before will understand that I really didn't mean any harm.

But genuinely thank you for this, sorry I'm kinda just using it to get out the rest of my feelings regarding the situation before moving past it. It feels a bit better to know that people like you had similar feelings to the situation as I did as the whole thing felt a bit isolating. Obviously it was probably also stressful for the op so I don't want to insinuate that I'm the only one who was affected by this whole thing. I'm really thankful for the support. Or at least the reassurance haha

And thank you for saying my artstyle is cute! Honestly with all the crazy talented people in the dndads community I'm really thankful to have gotten the following and attention that I have. Despite this experience, maybe not leaving the greatest impression, this fan base is one of the most kind and supportive communities I've been in. =]

#txt post #not tagging this with the fandom tags because the wider communinty does NOT want to read the essay i just basically wrote

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I really dont feel great about people feeling put off by my design for terry. Ive never seen anyone of the cast say that he was canonically black so i assumed that my design was just a bit of harmless variety to the pot of terry jr designs. Just sharing the way imagined him. However, even if i cant find it said anywhere saying that he is canonically black, i really dont want anyone to come away from my art with the impression that i am in any way trying to say “white good black bad” and i can see how my designs might have rubbed some people the wrong way and could feel intentionally shitty. Which is not what i want.

I have updated Terrys design and it is the one I’ll be using from now on. This has genuinely been eating me up inside and i really never meant to cause harm. I’m not here to make waves or cause issues and im really sorry if i did that for you.

wanna preface this by saying i AM vague posting a specific popular dndads artist and i am not sorry about it

terry jr, being the objectively best father in season 2 (arguably in the entire series) being portrayed as white feels just completely disgusting to me.

already in media black fathers are rarely seen in a positive light, often falling into the "absent black father" trope, having terry be a positive role model while also being black is something that is very important to me as a black person

drawing terry jr as a white blonde guy feels just so genuinely racist to me and if you see terry as white i want you to really look into why that is

this artist i am talking about CAN draw black people, can draw curly hair and can draw black features, in fact they even draw nicky (who isn't canonically black) with curly hair and black features which is something else that rubs me 100% the wrong way

nicky is canonically chinese and ALSO happens to be... AN ABSENT FATHER!!!

as someone who does see nicky as blasian there is nothing wrong with drawing nicky with black features, there IS however something wrong with drawing the canonically black "good dad" as white, and then drawing the canonically non-black "absent dad" as black

my genuine question for this person is just why.

if your argument is "its just a headcanon" i ask you to reflect on yourself on why you have those headcanons in the first place because it might be to some prejudices you probably hold within yourself

this is not a cancelation thing or a dogpiling thing this is a "i am black and i am tired" thing

being a black person in fandom is fucking hard ya'll

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Could you direct me to when Anthony said he was canonically black? I'm definitely not trying to whitewash him If he is canoncially black but I was under the impression that other than the Close line and the Oaks no one had a Canon race.

wanna preface this by saying i AM vague posting a specific popular dndads artist and i am not sorry about it

terry jr, being the objectively best father in season 2 (arguably in the entire series) being portrayed as white feels just completely disgusting to me.

already in media black fathers are rarely seen in a positive light, often falling into the "absent black father" trope, having terry be a positive role model while also being black is something that is very important to me as a black person

drawing terry jr as a white blonde guy feels just so genuinely racist to me and if you see terry as white i want you to really look into why that is

this artist i am talking about CAN draw black people, can draw curly hair and can draw black features, in fact they even draw nicky (who isn't canonically black) with curly hair and black features which is something else that rubs me 100% the wrong way

nicky is canonically chinese and ALSO happens to be... AN ABSENT FATHER!!!

as someone who does see nicky as blasian there is nothing wrong with drawing nicky with black features, there IS however something wrong with drawing the canonically black "good dad" as white, and then drawing the canonically non-black "absent dad" as black

my genuine question for this person is just why.

if your argument is "its just a headcanon" i ask you to reflect on yourself on why you have those headcanons in the first place because it might be to some prejudices you probably hold within yourself

this is not a cancelation thing or a dogpiling thing this is a "i am black and i am tired" thing

being a black person in fandom is fucking hard ya'll

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Hello, I am most likely the person you are referencing. I just want say firstly that I NEVER wanted to make anyone feel alienated or make anyone feel discriminated against or anything like that and I'm really sorry if I made you feel that way.

As for the way I draw Terry, I just recently discovered the series a few months ago and binge watched all of season one and the majority of season 2 in one go. I really hate spoilers, and to avoid them, i didn't look up any fanart until i was completely caught up. As you said, in Terry's arc in season 1, Ron says he's blonde. So from that conversation, I started to imagine a design for him in my head as I worked my way through the series. Once I caught up the present and was able to see other ppls fanart and all that fun stuff, I noticed that most people drew Terry black. Which is great! And I enjoyed getting to see all the fanart people made even if they didn't line up with what he looks like in my head when I'm imagining him during episodes. I was under the impression that It was just a very popular headcanon, and there were no set designs for any of the characters. You mentioned his season 2 portrait, but i really haven't seen anyone stick to any of those designs. And i thought it was kinda like the adventure zone where they have the image they're using for the episodes, but thats not what anyone actually uses for designs when they draw them. I was under the impression that since It was an audio medium, unless explicitly stated as true in the show proper, anything goes in terms of your designs for the characters.

Additionally, I came up with my headcanon designs for the kiddads in season one when they were introduced as children. I definitely did not come up with them because I thought a white guy would fit better into the role of good dad and a blasian guy fit the roll of absent father.

(In all honesty, I made Nick blasian because one: I hc Morgan as black. And two: because he's cool as fuck and it would be fun and look sick to give him really coily curly hair that curls into flames on the end.)

At the end of the day I'm just drawing the characters how I imagined them during the series. I just want to make fun art of my designs and post them to the internet so people can enjoy them. It definitely wasn't my intention to hurt anyone. Fandom is supposed to be a fun hodgepodge of everyone's ideas and I by no means ment to make anyone uncomfortable.

wanna preface this by saying i AM vague posting a specific popular dndads artist and i am not sorry about it

terry jr, being the objectively best father in season 2 (arguably in the entire series) being portrayed as white feels just completely disgusting to me.

already in media black fathers are rarely seen in a positive light, often falling into the "absent black father" trope, having terry be a positive role model while also being black is something that is very important to me as a black person

drawing terry jr as a white blonde guy feels just so genuinely racist to me and if you see terry as white i want you to really look into why that is

this artist i am talking about CAN draw black people, can draw curly hair and can draw black features, in fact they even draw nicky (who isn't canonically black) with curly hair and black features which is something else that rubs me 100% the wrong way

nicky is canonically chinese and ALSO happens to be... AN ABSENT FATHER!!!

as someone who does see nicky as blasian there is nothing wrong with drawing nicky with black features, there IS however something wrong with drawing the canonically black "good dad" as white, and then drawing the canonically non-black "absent dad" as black

my genuine question for this person is just why.

if your argument is "its just a headcanon" i ask you to reflect on yourself on why you have those headcanons in the first place because it might be to some prejudices you probably hold within yourself

this is not a cancelation thing or a dogpiling thing this is a "i am black and i am tired" thing

being a black person in fandom is fucking hard ya'll

#none of them really have canon designs but i can see how me drawing an almost univerally drawn black character as white could feel like- #-a slap in the face. #so im sorry that it felt like i was doing something i intentionally shitty just to be a racist asshole #thats definitely NOT where my views align and not something i want someone to take away from my work

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It's not enough to destroy you with facts and logic. If you hate Sparrow Oak I NEED to kill you.

#if you hate sparrow oak then youve never been an older sister and it shows #im sorry you must be executed. your lack of media literacy cannot go on to infect the next generation #dndads #dungeons and daddies #dndads s2 #sparrow oak

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Responding on my alt, YES PLEASE DO!!!

Thank you so much for your response! I really liked your epilogue designs for Dungeons and Daddies, but if I can request one thing to add, I would really appreciate an extra pair of heads of Linc and Scary together and being a cute couple. I really like the Gothcleats ship.

Oh, I’m way ahead of you king,

Using this as an excuse to dump all my sketches lol

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invincible characters as silly reaction memes

#a surprise tool that will help us later

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I need the publics opinion:

#dndads #dungeons and daddies #classpects #homestuck #lark oak #sparrow oak #dndaddies #yes they are each others inverse

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2009:A Strider Odyssey

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chips ride home

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Ive seen some people talking about Anissa from invincible since she has just made her appearance in the show. And the knee-jerk reaction of people who have read to the comics to dogpile on those who think shes cool or hot or whatever because of the SA she commits later in the story. But i would like to point out that right now in the show she hasn’t done anything like that yet. Most viewers of the show have not seen the comics and so judging people on liking her right now is a bit unfair.

While i know that as someone who’s seen the comics its tempting to spoil aspects of the story when you see ppl being “down bad” or whatever for a piece of shit, we definitely shouldn’t do that to ppl who have not seen the comics. I dont love the opinion that many ppl tend to hold that “it’s not spoilers. The book/comic/manga has been out for years.” If someone prefers to view a story without knowing what’s going to happen, we, as people who have read the comics, should respect that.

People are allowed to enjoy villains, and Anissa is a compelling one. Once we get to that point in the story, people opinions will change. Until then, they are allowed to judge a character by what they’ve seen in the show rather than what they’ve been told will happen.

#obviously this is a case by case basis. if someone you know is going to be VERY upset about holding that opinion when more of Anissa’s #-story comes out. then of course its up to your and their judgement if you should share that information #i just think ppl judging other ppl for liking her at this point in the story are being unfair #invincible #invincible spoilers #anissa invincible #invincible comic spoilers