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My Theory on Pachacamac and The Iblis Trigger

There is talk about how much they changed Pachacamac from a warmongering, power hungry tribal leader, to a goofy grandpa figure, but I think the truth of Pachacamac's nature might be somewhere between the two interpretations. Despite his friendliness, you can't forget he did lead a clan that wiped out the owls with a singleminded focus on capturing Sonic and reclaiming The Master Emerald. Pachacamac, now a ghost, has visited Knuckles to tell him he needs to expand his tribe. There are no echidnas left, so he asks the sole survivor to take on an apprentice. "Show him our customs, teach him our traditions, and soon our tribe will grow once again."

There is no acceptance or acknowledgement of the fact that the clan's current situation is the result of a bloody feud and the destruction of an entire race besides their own. There is also, unsettlingly, no acknowledgement of Tails, Sonic, or The Wachowskis as members of Knuckles' clan.

While there are questionable elements to Pachacamac's approach, his motivations are at least understandable. Knuckles is a minority– the last of his tribe and the only surviving member of his species, so of course his old chief wants to see their traditions and culture continued on and preserved by any means.

Things only get really weird when Pachacamac takes hold of Wade– Knuckles' apprentice and the soon-to-be new addition to their clan–and rewrites history. Rather than a lone owl that the echidnas hunted down in a quest for power, the tale is instead of an entire flock of owls that were the aggressors, killing off Knuckles' tribe and burning down his village for no reason other than for the sake of the slaughter.

Similarly, Knuckles isn't described as a lost child left behind, but a fellow warrior who battled alongside his father until the bitter end.

So, knowing that Pachamach's version of events is wrought with lies leads to one very serious question: What is the true story of Knuckles' battle with Iblis? If there's one thing we know about The Echidna Clan, it's that they are fixated on raw power. They're a warrior-focused society where the best fighter gets the highest honor and the most privileges. They were the ones who crafted The Master Emerald from the seven chaos emeralds. They were the ones who tracked down Sonic when he was a child with the intention of obtaining his power, before Long Claw wiped them out in her final struggle.

And who else do we know that was accidentally unleashed in a reckless pursuit of power?

Iblis, the raw power of the sun god Solaris. Iblis, who was sealed away within a child using the power of the chaos emeralds.

Now, there's no doubt that "The Flames of Disaster" in the SCU are very different from "The Flames of Disaster" in Sonic 06. In the movie universe the flames are merely a type of wieldable power rather than the name of an apocalyptic event. However... what better way to rewrite the fact that the echidna tribe nearly caused the end of the world and locked an immortal fire demon within an echidna child, than by pretending that The Flames of Disaster is just an inherent ability Knuckles unlocked through an epic battle?

What if "The Flames of Disaster" wasn't a power he obtained through a magnificent fight, but a power he survived after it was thrusted upon him by his elders? ... What if one of the many, many reasons reasons his father didn't let him join the fight was out of fear of what would happen if he cried?

#This theory nuts but that's not going to keep me from seeing it as canon until proven otherwise #Anyways I don't trust that Pachacamac ghost not one bit #Knuckles the echidna #sonic the hedgehog #sonic wachowski #knuckls wachowski #sonic headcanons #knuckles series spoilers #long post

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I sure can't wait until Knuckles is comfortable enough to hug his new family the same way he attempted to hug the ghost of his chief.

#he is touch starved your honor #he went in for the full wrap around hug with his head pressed against the old man's shoulder #knuckles series #knuckles series spoilers #knuckles wachowski

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#knuckles the echidna #knuckles wachowski #look I'm SORRY I'll be back to my regularly scheduled program momentarily #the show gave me more content of my boy and introduced the entire Iblis Trigger concept so I'm a little absorbed #stuck in the Knuckles zone you could say

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Yo, this? This is my territory. You showed me the stuffs for Mr L, just let me know whatever questions you got for Sonic lore and I can explain. Been a Sonic fan since.....gosh, '03, where does the time go

Oh Good! Okay okay so this is what I think I've gathered so far? Iblis is one half of a god that a royal family attempted to control through science(tm). The experiment went kablooey and the god got split up into two halves:

Iblis (big scary fire demon who can't die and causes the end of the wold)

Memphis Tennessee (the gamer)

Iblis got locked inside the king's daughter, Elise, but will be released into the real world if she cries or dies. Memphis Tennessee got locked into a magical girl wand.

Also at some point Shadow got blamed for Iblis' release? which meant Sonic got mistaken for Shadow? But it was really Memphis Tennessee who looks like Shadow who was to blame? Honestly I have no idea how the hedgehogs got tied into it, I just know one of them got blamed for being The Iblis Trigger and Silver is going after them to try and prevent the apocalypse.

Am I correct? Do I have this right?

#manynerdthings #askbox #sonic 06 #I know his name is Mephiles or whatever but he will always be Memphis Tennessee to me

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I'm not a gamer, so maybe they'll respect me. =D

That just makes you a beta cuck :/ That is the difference between you and I, anon. I am an alpha gamer.

#askbox #anon #Snapcube dub #really want to make some of those lines they did for Shadow The Hedgehog into an animatic one of these days

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Okay. Now that I actually know more about what The Flames of Disaster and Iblis are...

.... Uh... I can confidently say that if this is actually the writers setting up the fact that Knuckles is the Iblis Trigger???? This will all be worth it.

#an absolutely wild concept that I am one MILLION percent down for #knuckles series spoilers #knuckles wachowski #knuckles the echidna #They are giving him the Paper Luigi treatment: #Local kindhearted neurodivergent weirdo is turned into the vessel by which a horrific apocalypse is brought to fruition

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Because Iblis is only one half of the god Solaris, then that must mean Mephiles the Dark is also out there, or as you may recognize him as Memphis Tennessee

Oh!!! I know Memphis Tennessee!

#Snapcube we've all seen it. Gamer pad and eggman's announcement and all that #I only know the memes I never knew... like... the actual lore lasflkjs #askbox #anon

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"A warrior's true strength comes from their heart, and your heart has never been bigger! You fight to honor your family! You fight to protect your friends! And now you have something new to fight for: a home!"

Me:

#I kinda dug that climactic monologue from Wade ngl it got me good #and the montage of their times together set to dramatic music... It was cheesy but it sure worked on me #Knuckles series spoilers #knuckles wachowski

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It'd be kinda funny if Knuckles accidentally called Wade "Dad" before he can refer it to Tom

Actually, I believe Knuckles can't bring himself to call anyone "Dad/Father" for much the same reason Sonic can't bring himself to call anyone "Mom."

At least not for a good long while.

#askbox #anon #sonic the hedgehog #knuckles the echidna #knuckles wachowski #sonic wachowski #Tails on the other hand is good to go

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Knuckles by episode 6: "If anything happened to Wade or his family I would kill everyone in this room and then someone else."

#knuckles series spoilers #knuckles wachowski #wade whipple #one other positive I can say is that Knuckles and Wade's friendship is genuinely so wholesome

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I need to start researching Sonic stuff because I am not at all qualified to start speaking about the implications of The Flames of Disaster and Knuckles' fire powers

#I know way more about Mario Bros lore it's practically my phd at this point #I only recognized Iblis because I was like ''that looks like an old Sonic boss'' and googled it #all I know about Sonic I got from watching Sonic X back in middle school #never played the games unfortunately #knuckles series spoilers

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New burning question the show left me with: Can Knuckles Cry

(You know how the last person with Iblis’s power was cursed to never cry or else the apocalypse happens?)

That... is a good question

#that whole thing with Iblis raised a LOT of questions quite frankly that I am REALLY curious about #good thing Knuckles isn't going to cry anytime soon he's too traumatized for that #askbox #jadeandroses #knuckles series spoilers

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One part of the show that I really liked was the moment Wade found out he had a bounty on his head. Part of me was expecting Knuckles... who had lived on the run pretty much his entire life... to shrug it off, or even take it as a challenge.

But no. He is at a lost for words as he gauges his friend's reaction, and when Wade expresses fear Knuckles looks guilty and troubled.

And then he does what he can to help. He destroys the source of the bounty announcement– the radio– and coaches Wade to find a place to lay low once first light has broken.

Knuckles thrives on the battlefield, but he knows what it's like to be on the run, and just because he's used to being targeted doesn't mean he wants the same for anyone else– especially someone as inexperienced as Wade. It was just a subtle, sweet little character moment that really showed how Knuckles, for all his abrasiveness and warrior tendencies, is so softhearted.

#It's one of many moments that showcase this but this is the one that stood out to me because... again... not what I expected #knuckles series spoilers #Knuckles the echidna #knuckles wachowski

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I also appreciate that they let Knuckles murder the generic bad guys, that was extremely cathartic

Me too! I also love the way he spells out violent, detailed threats to crush the skulls and rip the arms off of the two agents who captured him. He'll defend his clan with his life and cares deeply for the lives of innocent bystanders.

But if you prove yourself a threat? No mercy.

He will send you straight to the morgue.

#we saw much of the same behavior in the drone home short #but the knuckles series also confirmed that he was attacked and hunted pretty much his entire life #including once being attacked and left for dead in the middle of a desert #soooo he doesn't exactly have the instinct to go easy on anyone #askbox #anon #knuckles series spoilers

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One thing I can say about this show is that Knuckles' characterization was 10/10. There was so much emphasis on how much kindness and heart the big guy has despite his harsh, warrior exterior. He showed himself to be so so empathetic and determined to help, while at the same time opening himself up to new information and experiences. He didn't always know how to approach things from a social standpoint, but he always tried so so hard.

Every second this guy was on screen was a delight.

#knuckles series spoilers #he is baby

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And another thing, we barely got to see her or the boys!

They were just in episode 1 and absolutely nothing else, not even a little potential mini side plot where Sonic and Tails try to cover for him before Maddie notices, just barely managing to fool her right before he returns home. That would have been a fun time to make up for all the Whipple family drama stuff

I know! and we started out so promising in episode 1! I thought for sure there'd be more of them but sadly, it wasn't meant to be 😔

#should've trimmed out at least 30% of the Wade family drama in exchange for a Sonic-Tails side plot or something #niyana-the-ambiguous-mobian #niyanatheambiguousmobian #askbox #knuckles series spoilers

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I learned that if I'm going to love an over the top, mustache-twirling villain, they've got to either

a. Be self-aware and embrace being evil with entertaining vigor while posing a legitimate threat

b. Have only... like... 3 lines of dialogue and serve a very limited purpose

#Robotnik? good villain! #The Buyer? good villain! #Wade's Dad? Utterly painful to sit through past a certain point #Same kinda goes with the bounty hunter. He didn't embrace his own evil enough and ended up falling on the ''annoying'' end of the spectrum #knuckles series spoilers