#Doris Thalmer

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Mädchen in Uniform (1931): an incredible fact

In absence of new DW photos, here's a semi-accidental discovery. (How to: the poster of this wanted to find (again) the actress (a pupil) from MiU who lived until at least 1992. As it turned out, she lived longer, but her acting career had lasted until 1992.)

So, it's known for some fans that Ellen Schwanneke who played Ilse von Westhagen was older than Ilse's dormitory's teacher, Elisabeth von Bernburg who was played by Dorothea Wieck. Ellen: 11 of August, 1906, DW: 3rd of January, 1908. (At least one post here = i.e. a separate post, plus maaaybe comments to one or more posts; therefore more than one.)

24 or 25 (!) years old played 14-years-old. And believable, too, in terms of age.

23 year old DW the teacher looking definitely like a teacher.

By the way, Erika Mann (Thomas Mann's daughter & Heinrich Mann's niece) was 25, turned 26 in late 1931 (9 November 1905), and it was hard to believe (i.e. older, but lesbians and other women and girls who are into women like this fact.) She played Fräulen von Attems, drama teacher or somebody like this (she was the one responsible for the school play.)

But this is NOT ALL. The actress in question is *drum roll* Doris Thalmer, the one who played a pupil, Marie von Ecke (mostly called Mariechen by other pupils.)

"Doris Thalmer (20 July 1907 – 9 October 1998) was a German actress. She appeared in more than 75 films and television shows between 1931 and 1992." (c) Wikipedia

She played in few the same films at least one TV Series where DW played too (but different episodes, as far is understandable after first reading without checking.)

So, Doris was 23 or 24; thus, older than "Elisabeth von Bernburg" the teacher (more than 5 months in-between), AND she lived up to the time when some of the current fans of the film (who discovered it in 21st century) were in early childhood (the poster of this turned 6, and Doris was still here :) )

"Mariechen" lived for 91(!) years and the oldest actress of pupils of all whose date of birth is known.

BONUS (the brain of the poster's has remembered this): another Doris is Doris Hermanns, an incredible researcher who (among other results) wrote two books about Christa Winsloe—the person we all need to thank for the existence of Mädchen in Uniform universe.

N O T E: to know or see more (including a post with the gif), click at any tag related to any of the actresses as the blog has various posts about each of them. 

#Mädchen in Uniform #Madchen in Uniform #Doris Thalmer #Ellen Schwanneke #Dorothea Wieck #Erika Mann

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Dorothea Wieck and Hertha Thiele in Mädchen in Uniform (Leontine Sagan, 1931)

Cast: Hertha Theile, Dorothea Wieck, Emilia Unda, Hedy Krila, Ellen Schwanneke, Erika Mann, Else Ehser, Gertrud de Lalsky, Lene Berdolt, Margory Bodker, Charlotte Witthauer, Ethel Reschke, Doris Thalmer. Screenplay: Christa Winsloe, Friedrich Dammann, based on a play by Winsloe. Cinematography: Reimar Kuntze, Franz Weihmayr. Art direction: Fritz Maurischat, Friedrich Winckler-Tannenberg. Film editing: Oswald Hafenrichter. Music: Hanson Milde-Meissner.

An aura of naughtiness still clings to the title of Mädchen in Uniform, as if this drama set in a German girls' school were some sort of exploitation flick. That's unfortunate, because what we have instead is a sensible, sensitive account of the emotional confusion of adolescence, done with a finesse in acting and camerawork that mostly seemed to escape Hollywood filmmakers in 1931. The premise is this: Manuela (Hertha Theile) is the new girl at a school run by a grim-faced martinet (Emilia Unda) who believes that education should be a matter of Prussian discipline. Naturally, the students rebel as much as they can, as do some of the teachers, especially Fräulein von Bernburg (Dorothea Wieck), who believes in kindness and love as a way to inspire the girls. Naturally, all of the girls love Fräulein von Bernburg, who is quite good-looking, but Manuela, whose mother died when she was a baby, is especially drawn to her -- so much so that she freezes with embarrassment whenever the teacher calls on her in class. Eventually, this leads to a declaration of love before the whole school, and a consequent scandal that pits the head of the school against not only Manuela but also Fräulein von Bernburg. Director Leontine Sagan effectively stages both the boisterous scenes with the girls and the quiet ones between the principal characters. The film serves as an indictment of the harshness of the school system, which may have been as much a reason for its being banned when the Nazis came to power as its understanding and approving of the schoolgirl infatuation, which led to its being banned and heavily cut in the United States. It's often called a "lesbian classic," which it may well be, but it also tells a universal story irrespective of sexual orientation.

#Mädchen in Uniform

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Mädchen in Uniform | Leontine Sagan / Carl Froelich | 1931

Doris Thalmer

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Mädchen in Uniform (1931) poster

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#Mädchen in Uniform #Madchen in Uniform #behind the scenes #Leontine Sagan #Annemarie von Rochhausen #Doris Thalmer #Hertha Thiele #Charlotte Witthauer #new format of posts has only text post so no 'filter by' search in archive #but old text post format works in old versions of mobile Chrome (desktop mode is on) #hopefully it's a photo post this way #Ellen Schwanneke #<— probably #IF NOT AN OLD VERSION OF TUMBLR APPLICATION the images couldn't be arranged at all *despair* #if to select all images at ince they are ordered randomly teo in a row mostly #* at once | two

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Mädchen in Uniform | Leontine Sagan / Carl Froelich | 1931

Promo magazine ad.

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Doris Thalmer* as Nena in Anna und Elisabeth, 1933 (with Dorothea Wieck, two Doras again). Frames #1-4

* She played Mariechen von Ecke in Mädchen in Uniform, 1931.

@slgbst about Doris Thalmer, “Maybe she even cooks! Maybe some ham will make lady Elisabeth better.” (See the 5th frame to understand the comment.)

Her roles. MiU: Elisabeth von Bernburg's girl, AuE: Elisabeth, Gutshrerrin von Salis' servant.

The tird frame shows some smilarity with the boarding school’s aprons (back part only). The last frame shows Mariechen telling the story that they should have learnt as home work (a very good answer).

(Hertha Thiele (Manuela & Anna) also played in both films.)

#similarity #1930s #1930's #Mädchen in Uniform #Madchen in Uniform #Anna und Elisabeth #Doris Thalmer #Dorothea Wieck #a bit of research from me after no own text for a lot of time