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catnippackets · 4 years

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have you seen/would u recommend pacific rim 2? ive heard some things about newt and idk lol

I feel like Im in the minority that actually did think pru was fun but that being said it ended SO abruptly and with like three separate plotlines completely abandoned that I was really frustrated for days after watching it until I had processed everything and had time to think deeply about it lol it just seemed rly unfinished?? it feels like it was deliberately made as 1/2 of two sequels and there needs to be one more to tie everything up. actually I’m gonna ramble abt this bc I have a lot of thoughts (obvs spoilers under the cut)

the thing about the second one was that I genuinely was enjoying it right up until it ended because I swear to god the moment the end screen went up I yelled "what the fuck, that's it?" out loud into my bedroom bc I was so SHOCKED that THAT'S how it all ended, because it just seemed so incomplete?? Like it seemed like one half of a story, that will only be made whole if there's a third one to tie up all the plotlines that they didn't go through with in the second and if that's the case then I will be completely fine with it but if it doesn't or if they dont have a third one at all I will stay so frustrated lol. one silver lining to this is that the vibe of this movie was so different from the first that it almost feels easy to separate it and just imagine it as an AU if you prefer which is sort of nice; usually if a piece of media I like does something bad I feel all gutted and anxious and terrible that this is the canon I have to accept, but something abt this movie just made it feel like it was sort of a totally separate deal. maybe cuz only 3 of the original characters were in it idk

to start off: I felt like there were a couple of plotlines in it that were just sort of introduced and then never seen through which was very ????? Amara & Vik's weird hate-rivalry thing was one of them; Vik instantly has it out for Amara bc she’s jealous, which is a very interesting concept, and then this prompts Amara to become hostile right back at her, which is also a very interesting concept, and then it never got resolved at all? like they couldve done something really cool with those two but it just never went anywhere. and then there was sort of a weird love triangle thing happening between Jake and Nate and Jules that felt so weird bc it had no significance to the plot at all and it felt like it was only thrown in there for the sake of having ~romantic drama~ idk maybe I wasnt paying too much attention and there was more to it than that but it really just seemed like they wanted to put romance in there and didnt want to bother to put any work into it

BUT the thing about romantic sub plots is that THERE ALREADY WAAAAS OOOOOOOOONE which brings me to the biggest frustration I have w this movie because--and DISCLAIMER, this was also my favourite plot point of the movie bc it was by far the most interesting, the biggest reason for me enjoying the movie at all, and the bit I feel like should have had WAY more attention--Newt and Hermann were like legitimately in love in this movie I swear to god I was watching it and thinking “this is GENUINELY the most blatantly gay thing I’ve ever seen in a feature film and I know that straight ppl are very talented at writing gay romances completely by accident so it’s possible that they just accidentally did it this way but also it is REALLY goddamn obvious oh my gooood?” (and then I did a lot of frantic googling and found out that I was right and Charlie Day & Burn Gorman knew what the fuck they were doing and I felt so validated lol), and yet despite this, the movie had them speak for the last time almost at the halfway point of the film and then spend the entire second half apart and not talking at all and even at the post-credits scene where Jake and Newt talked for a bit Hermann wasn't there?? not even behind Jake to give Newt any searching glances?? Nothing??

dude...Newt being possessed by the precursors is a HUGELY interesting concept that actually makes sense and I wish it had had more attention. I’ve seen a lot of ppl say that pru butchered Newt’s character and I don’t 100% agree bc like...being possessed will change you lmao so while yes I’m obviously sad that he wasn’t himself, I feel like it made sense that he had a slight personality change, because it...wasn’t him anymore. we don’t really see the Newt we all fell in love with in the first movie. we THINK we’re seeing him, but halfway through we find out we’re wrong.

my critiques with that plotline are basically that I wish the reveal had happened a little bit later on, and I wish that it had been a little more obvious I guess?? like, we definitely get hints of it (when Hermann excitedly asks Newt to help him with a dangerous unorthodox project and Newt says “dude why are you doing something so risky when we’ve already got a good plan in motion? just wait for that to be done, it’s fine” and Hermann IS us, he IS the audience when he reacts, because this is a completely insane thing for Newt to say. Newt, who, in the first movie, was so obsessed with finding knowledge that he went behind the marshall’s back to literally risk his life doing something incredibly dangerous just to see what would happen? being given the opportunity to do the same kind of dangerous frivolous act and refusing? this is blatantly out of character, and Hermann is all of us when he’s shocked, “what, you mean you...won’t help me??” which means it wasn’t bad writing on their part, it was purposefully supposed to stand out as something that was wrong and something that we needed to pay attention to. that was a really good scene to hint that something was Not Right with Newt), and I wish there had been a bunch more like it. I think the reveal should have been saved for the end of the second act; I think that should have been the moment that act 2 of a story usually has, that dreadful event that happens that leaves the main characters feeling completely hopeless and unsure what to do.

I also wish that he had managed to break through more than That One Scene, I think it would’ve been more dramatic if he’d had a few moments where he managed to take control for a second to remind us that he’s still in there and still fighting, and I’m sad they didn’t do that. I saw a fan comic that touched on this idea and I think it’s brilliant, even the idea of him suddenly getting a nosebleed and acting distracted to show that that’s the Real Him trying to fight through would have been sooooooooo good.

I also feel like it didn’t make any sense for Nate to be the one to subdue him in the end, I dont even think those two interact at all so like, why was it him?? it would have been so much more dramatic and heartbreaking if Hermann had been the one to confront him so they could’ve had a little conversation on the roof where Newt could once again break through for a second before getting taken over and then Hermann could like idk have a taser hidden behind him that he uses to subdue him and THAT wouldve been a way sadder and more interesting way to do it. I also think Hermann shouldve been the one to speak to him in the post credits scene, or to have him in the background behind Jake just watching him sadly so we can get a couple shots of intense eye contact like UGH I just wish there had been more interaction between the two of them after the reveal happened!! When the movie was over and I realized they never spoke again I felt so upset!!! they're soulmates!! they're literally in love!! this has been CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and segueing in from the soulmate thing, another thing that made me sad was that nobody came in pairs anymore :( aside from Newt and Hermann, they were the only ones gjdfk but in the first one every character had another character that they were paired up with, both for drifting reasons and just for plot reasons (except Chau and Tendo but I’m pretty sure there's actually significance to that too), and in the second one it just sort of felt like everyone was drifting with each other with no strong connection needed and that made it feel way less special. granted, the movie takes place ten years after the first one so in that time maybe technology advanced to the point where you didn't need a strong neural connection to drift anymore, but for the sake of the story it would have been way better if they'd kept the whole soulmates concept from the first one, it made it way stronger and more special

so yeah in conclusion I did think pru was enjoyable and I probably would watch it again some time but also it definitely pales in comparison to the first one and I’m desperately hoping we get one more so they can tie everything together and FIX THINGS KFGH it’s not too late!!!!! I wish I could write Pacific Rim 3 I genuinely think I would do a good job I love storytelling and I’m very passionate about these characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#ramblings #Anonymous #ask #this is really long but please interact I've been dying to talk about this for weeks now

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kayjscage · 5 years

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Disclaimer: this is written entirely from my own personal fandom experience. And I'm a leech. I only produce like 2 fics a year, if that, but most of my time is spent reblogging other ppls work. So my experiences are very limited. This is just my perception of fandom, which is probably super far off from what it actually is. Don't take any of this personally.

(And I'm purposefully leaving out discussion of memes. I know memes are an important part of any tumblr community. But memes are not a fandom exclusive thing. So they're not gonna be counted here.)

Anyway.

Listen man.

It's so hard for me to get into fandoms for LAC (live action content)

Like I loved Spn. Been a while since I caught up with the episodes but I liked it well enough. I love the MCU. I'm getting into Lucifer. The source content is great/cool/fine but the fandoms do nothing for me, art-wise. It's not the quality in question. Ppl make pretty fanart of live-action stuff. But it's not good enough for me.

I can only actually give a fuck abt the fandoms of C/A (cartoon and anime) bc like. The fan art is just different. Not inherently better or higher-quality. It's not that. It's just that the fan artists for LAC make a different type art for their shows than weebs do for their C/A

Like weeb artists doodle and sketch and put out art content at hyper speed with big detailed pieces once a month/every couple of months. Based on my experiences LAC fanartists seem to do big art pieces every now and again but most fan content for LAC comes in the form of fanfic, edits, and gifsets.

And I just dont give a fuck abt those last two. Stream endless pics of varying style right into my brain at a speed fast enough to break the sound barrier. I dont wanna look at gif sets. I saw that stuff in the show. If I wanted to see it again I'd just rewatch the episode/whole show. I get that C/A fandoms also do this but not as often as LAC fandom, in my experience.

Like LAC fandoms just do art differently than C/A and maybe it's bc C/A fandom has source content that is already art so it's easier for it to be art based. But like? Why do only C/A fanartists make thousands of fanart pieces and LAC fanartists don't?

Do you have any idea how much more fun it would be to be in LAC fandoms if there were more sketchy/doodley/scribbley art? That artists just kept pumping out day after day after day? It feels like for every one piece of LAC fanart there are 20 pieces of C/A fanart to rival it. Going into the tag for a LA show yields sooooo little fanart compared to the tag for C/A which is almost 70% art.

And listen. I've got ADHD. The kind that makes reading a bitch. A chore. I have to save up so much energy just to read a one shot or one chapter. And that's only if it's under a certain word limit. Just looking at a word limit of 8k or more makes me need to take a nap. I would love to read more fic. Fic is awesome. My brain won't fucking let me. It only cares abt visuals. So a fandom that is 60% fic (something I can rarely do), 30% gifsets and edits (something I dont care abt), and only 10% fanart (the good shit I come to fandom for) is just. Boring.

Whereas C/A fandom is like pretty equal on the fic to art ratio, if not more art heavy. Which is great. I can get what I need from C/A fandoms.

Just. All in all. Can LAC fandoms plz. Just. Do art the way C/A fandoms do. I remember the days of deviantART when LAC was given the anime treatment. Bring it back. Plz. For my ADHD having ass.

(Another note. I do not expect this to get popular cuz I only have like 30 followers, most of which I think are inactive now. But if it does. Somehow. Plz dont discourse here. There's no discourse to be found. You would literally be pulling shit out of your ass and making something out of nothing. There is no hill to die on. This is a field smoother than a flatline on the heart monitor of a dead person. I am not dissing on LAC fandoms. I'm saying that C/A fandoms provide for me what LAC fandoms never have been able to. Which is not an insult. Every time I go into the tag for a LA series/ship from a LA series it's mostly fic or gifsets/edits. And I just. Can't. Do that. I can't read fic bc my brain hates me and gifsets are boring to me. None of this is meant to be insulting. It's just my personal experience with fandom. Maybe I just don't follow the right ppl. Maybe I'm using the wrong search words/tags. I dunno. Anyway, there is no discourse here.)

(Look at me making a fool out of myself by pleading with no one bc that's who's gonna see or care abt this dumb post lmao)

#fandom #(maybe posting this at 12 am will keep ppl from seeing it)

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