Hi there! I really liked your recent post on play partner jealousy. I was wondering if you would feel comfortable elaborating on this part: "(for folks brought up in conservative religious environments that leads to some insanely fucked up abusive relationships in the general world.)" when referring to intimacy=marriage. I don't quite follow what's potentially abusive about saving intimacy for the monogamy/marriage? Thank you!
TRIGGER WARNING: religion, rape, assault, pretty much all the bad shit.
Hi anon! You’re skipping to the front of the line for this one.
In the post, that reference comes after this moment of self-observation:
Every time I do something intimate with someone, there is a small part of my brain that thinks I should marry them.
So to me, it’s not the idea of saving levels of intimacy for marriage that’s potentially abusive. I actually think there’s some value in that, or at the very least holding it out for relationships that carry deeper meaning.
Where, for me, the potential for abuse starts to happen is when any and all intimacy of any kind is forbidden. Again, in my childhood, *holding hands* was considered a path to sex and thus never to be done unless you were sure you were going to get married. I was literally told over and over as a child that the number one rule in my life was “Don’t have sex, ever.”
The problem is that when you take that logic that kind of extreme, it creates some perverse incentives:
One, you have the issue of young people who just really want to have sex with each other rushing into ill-advised marriages that inevitably fail. I have seen this happen *so many* times. They can’t tell the difference between the rush of lust and the slow burn of love.
Two, and more pernicious, is something less common: when young people raised in the most extreme versions of this thinking are sexually assaulted, they can believe that because God only wants us to have sex with one person, then the person who assaulted them must be that person. They also fear the very real issues that they have “lost” their “virginity” and thus are no longer acceptable or desirable spouses. And there are people who prey on that logic to keep victims quiet.
These are, of course, edge cases in the general population. But having known people who have faced each of these situations, or even things that get close to them, it’s a real issue.
To me, the issue is not the idea of saving more intimate connections for more consequential relationships. Again, I think that can be a great thing for some people, and there are parts of that were beneficial for me.
The issue more lies in how that is delivered as a value system, because it so often gets wrapped up in the idea that sex and intimacy are bad or shameful or harmful and could jeopardize your place in the community or in your faith.
I hope that clarifies things a bit, anon!
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