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#and if omori who has blamed himself for everything could be just as happy. then isnt that a wish worth making?
aria0fgold · 3 months
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I just realized something, the Omori in MiM only saw Sunny being miserable all alone which is a scene at the beginning of the game when Sunny first woke up... Omori doesn't know about what happened to Mari.
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beevean · 4 months
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I get it that Omocat wanted to focus on the feelz over everything else. But games like Yume Nikki(a game that Omori was clearly trying to ape) don't have a big overarching narrative, and is a very simple freeware game that leaves much room for interpretation. Also helps that it's ost was made to be atmospheric, even if you hear a song for only a couple seconds. I can listen to an extended version of this track while working on something, despite it being a 22 second loop.
https://youtu.be/hlayu0pXLYU?si=srwyAuKuP3cKBs3-
And in terms of games where you beat the final boss by unconventional means, the Earthbound/Mother series(another game/s Omocat was obviously trying to emulate) does so in a way that ties in perfectly with the story and characters in all three games, making the emotional pay-off from them earned.
Omori really wanted to be those games, but missed the mark on why they eventually became cult classics, while a game like Undertale was able to perfectly capture the spirit of them.
I could compare OMORI to Silent Hill 2, which I don't know much in detail (@woodchipp is the one who made this comparison - I keep tagging him because he's the expert here :P) but I know that its big twist is that the protagonist actually killed his wife because she fell sick. Apparently many fans picked for James the ending where he kills himself because they did not have any sympathy for him. I know that the game itself did not paint him as a poow bapyboy, just presented you with the events and his understandable guilt.
I could compare it to Hereditary, which also has a brother accidentally causing his sister's death and (before steering into the paranormal side of the plot) was about how that death wrecked the entire family and destroyed the relationship between son and mother who could only blame everyone around her.
I could compare it to Bojack Horseman, which explores the themes of forgiveness with cruel nuance - we viewers relate to Bojack and want him to finally find happiness because we get familiar with his circumstances, but when he fucks up, the people around him are allowed to cut contact with him, which makes eventual forgiveness (like from Todd) be even more precious. Incidentally, Xerox of a Xerox is all about Hollywoo discovering Bojack's role in Sarah Lynn's death (pushing her to go on a bender that led to her overdose and deliberately waiting to call an ambulance to create an alibi)... and he more than pays the consequences.
I could compare it to Steven Universe, and how it shows just how many people Rose hurt with her deception, even if well intentioned - Garnet falls apart, Amethyst tries to protect Steven from feeling responsible, Pearl moves on from her after their final bind has been cut.
I could compare it to Evangelion, which, as @spinningbuster98 said, also has a depressed teen as its protagonist, but he's pitiable because the story actually fleshes him out and doesn't shy away from the worst sympthoms of his depression, self-loathing and deep desire to be loved.
And if you mention unconventional final bosses, then there's also Undertale and its three final bosses: Asgore removing the choice of MERCY because he really wants to be killed, the fight against Asriel where Frisk is so full of Determination to SAVE him that they straight up cannot die, and Sans cheating all over the place because you player are also a cruel cheater. Also hugging Asriel and him crying that he doesn't want to let go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a shallow slideshow of Sunny and Mari being oh so happy together.
This story has been done multiple times, and infinitely better, giving all the respect necessary to every character involved, not just the cute protagonist. OMORI has nothing to offer if not a decent aesthetic.
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winters-sketches · 2 years
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i have decided i’m going to share my omori song brainrot with you cause these fit really well to me and i want to make animatics out of them
note that these lyrics aren’t all in order! i just wrote out the ones i felt were most relevant audhfngng
Sunny: Waves by Chloe Moriondo
Verse 1:
Sometimes I feel like I wanna go back
To a time before my mind turned black
I miss the way it was
When instead of just my gooey brains, all that melted
was popsicles, and the rain just pelted down
Down on me
Sunny wishes to go back to the past, before Mari died, before Black Space was created, before everything. So he creates his fantasy world of silly, innocent things, like melting popsicles and the rain and all the childhood innocence he used to have.
Make me into more than a goner
Perhaps a little bit stronger
Thicker skin, less needy, and maybe to not bruise so damn easily
But you can’t.
And I won’t.
Omori was everything Sunny wished he could be. Strong, unsuccumbing, the protagonist that never failed. He has his friends, he has his sister, and he would never let Mari get hurt again.
But it’s not real. And Omori knows all of Sunny’s flaws.
Chorus:
I want you to help keep me from growing older
Just let me snot on your shoulder, when all that I’m thinking ‘bout is her
Her…
In his dreams, Sunny gets to be twelve again, gets to forget about Mari’s death, forget about what he did to her. He doesn’t have to think about it anymore.
Give me everything you’ve got
Don’t need drugs, cause I can already feel my head rot
And it won’t stop…
It won’t stop, it won’t stop, it won’t stop, it won’t stop
Please slow down, please slow down
Make it all slow down,
Make it all slow down…
Headspace is an endless cycle of remembering and forgetting, facing his trauma and running away, his mind rotting under the falsehoods of his dreamland. Omori is the one who saves him when the truth is too much, when Sunny succumbs to the pressure of his guilt. Omori makes it all slow down, makes it all safe and happy and innocent again.
Kel: No Sleep by No Love For The Middle Child
(this one is based heavily on like, all of my Kel headcanons lmao)
Chorus:
They try to tell me who I am before they know me
Got all this ice on my neck, still no cold feet
Been livin’ fast, don’t know how to take it slowly
And I can’t die before I wake, so I get no sleep
People assume that Kel is the impulsive idiot friend who doesn’t really know what’s going on. He’s always bright, always excited, always moving, so he never has to slow down and dwell on the things that hurt him.
Part of verse 1:
Found out she tried to take her life before I wrote this
You never really know how low someone’s low is
Knew her and her sister since they were both kids
It breaks my heart, I live too far to even notice
Mari’s death hit Kel as hard as anyone else. He’d known Sunny and Mari since they were small. But like everyone else, he never noticed any signs, never expected any of this to happen.
Pre-chorus:
Oh, as of late now
I don’t know what is real or what is fate now
Should I stay or walk away now?
If I had a choice to read the end, I’d rip the page out
Kel copes by moving forwards, using sports and new friends to keep himself distracted. He walks away from the past, because he doesn’t want to dwell on it, doesn’t know how to help. He lives in the moment, rather than thinking behind or thinking ahead. It’s what keeps him going, keeps his feelings from festering inside of him.
Verse 2:
Born the middle child, my mother raised three
All by herself, I gave her hell, but she don’t blame me
I used to sneak outside at night, find trouble waiting
Anxiety and OCD can push that pain deep
So even when I breathe with ease, feels like I’m suffocating
Kel is the middle child between Hero and Sally, and he’s the most rambunctious of the three so far. He’s always been impulsive and just wants to have fun, and even now, he uses it to keep himself happy and push away his own feelings. To everyone else, he seems fine, seems like he doesn’t care. But inside, he is afraid, and he is lonely, and he is hurting.
Final Chorus (because i have even more thoughts):
They try to tell me who I am before they know me
Got all this ice around my neck, still no cold feet
Been livin fast, don’t know how to take it slowly,
And I cannot die before I wake, so I get no sleep
Kel hurts, and grieves, and suffers just as much as everyone else. But because he’s supposed to be the happy one, he can never break down and face those feelings, and will never put them to rest until he reaches his breaking point.
He can’t rest, not until his positivity runs dry and someone stays around long enough to catch him when he falls.
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elbiotipo · 2 years
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When playing OMORI, we know that Sunny regrets and is in pain for what he did, we know he made a whole mental structure by the most part to protect against that pain, and we know Omori is a result of all that to the point that he becomes a character on himself. But what we don't really know is what Sunny thinks about Headspace and Omori.
In the sense that yes, of course, he uses it to avoid the pain, and that he *fills* Headspace with nice things he likes (though it seems he's not 100% in control, even without the trauma). But when he does fall asleep to go towards it, does he looks forward to it or resents it? Is he """"happy"""" with his self-imposed exile and the dreams he has beyond just a coping mechanism? Is it just an unconscious act to him he doesn't 'feel' or even notice'? or worse, is it a prison? he doesn't want to do it anymore and he knows but he has no other option, like an addiction, or maybe he's forced by Omori, who has grown beyond all his control.
One could easily say "all three" but... think about this.
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Note I was talking before the game starts here. During and after the events of the game in the real world, he is severed from his dreamworld, and then from Omori's influence. What does Sunny think about it then, now that he was the Real World to compare? Is he not thinking about it all, or does he miss it and can't wait to come back, or he doesn't want to come back but he feels forced too? I'm pretty sure the game answers this more explictly but I'll have to play it again and I need time (and being alone to cry lol)
But what's more interesting is that then, after the ending... I presume Sunny will sever all ties with it and start to heal himself and live, or at least try, in the real world. For sure such a complex trauma and coping mechanism will remain in some form, and Sunny will have a long and hard road ahead in life, but IRL people have healed from things as worse to be happy and successful, and I'm sure Sunny will too. But what would Sunny think about Headspace and Omori after all that? Will he miss it? Will he look at those years with resentment? Will he think of himself as a prisoner of Omori (that is, himself) and that he couldn't do anything about it? Will he blame his family/friends for not helping (or having caused everything in the first place, hi Basil)? Will he just sigh and move on? Who knows.
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