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thecruellestmonth · 1 year

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I was reading your Lazarus pit madness post and I disagree a little bit personally. The wording from that interview doesn’t come off to me like he is blaming the pit itself as what is influencing Jason but rather coming back from the dead screwing him up a little bit. That same interview says that Jason was always screwed up so I don’t think it’s fair to say the pit is influencing his actions. There is far more evidence against pit madness than there is for it, and tons of characters have been in it with no adverse side effects in that same writing era like Cassandra.

Yes, I'm aware of what the Lazarus Pit lore is in Cass' book.

In a setting where Bruce Wayne becoming Batman is a reasonable response to the ills of society, I don't think Jason or anyone else needs to have Lazarus Pit side effects to do what the Red Hood did.

I'm not a huge fan of tying up the characters' agency in Magic Evil Juice. But I say the possibility is open. DC writers do whatever the heck they want with the Lazzy Pits. A flexible interpretation is available to them and to fans.

Bruce previously said he wouldn't use the Lazarus Pits to revive his parents, because the effects of the Pits are corruptive to the point that they are better off dead rather than twisted beyond recognition.

The Pit brought Cass back from death without many problems.

Other lore states that the Pit can't truly resurrect people, and can only heal injuries and diseases up to the brink of death. (Why is it called the Lazarus Pit is it can't even resurrect people? *eye roll*)

Again, the Lazarus Pit brought Cass and Shiva back from being freshly dead. And yet on another occasion, Bruce decided that the Pit wouldn't be strong enough to heal Jason's catastrophic brain injury. And then way back in the Bronze Age, the Lazarus Pit resurrected Ra's from a pile of ashes. And then Paul Dini and Alex Ross drew up a concept that the Lazarus Pit would heal Barbara Gordon's spinal injury at the cost of twisting her personality into something darker. Now "Lazarus Resin" is available in a conveniently portable form, and this Lazarus Planet event has a Lazarus Volcano eruption giving and nullifying superpowers for people across the planet.

My point is that--in this case especially--I really don't think fans can pretend to be the undisputed expert and argue for one definitive interpretation. On the list of the many flexible and inconsistent elements in Batman lore, the Lazarus Pit is high up there.

I'll probably remake the Jason-focused post into a multi-part overview of the history of the Lazarus Pit starting from the Bronze Age, and including Elseworlds and adaptations and their influences.

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megamindsupremacy · 1 year

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Misc Dc Fic Recs (Part 6)

in the name of the father, the billionaire, and honorary bat-uncle by buttercupbabyyyyy

It becomes a bit of a tradition, after this; when Wally gets mad, he announces with a (obnoxiously loud) screech he'll be living with Uncle Bats until Barry gets his act together, except the smaller redhead doesn't use the word 'act' and Batman, with a reputation to uphold, has to resist the urge to cover Robin's ears.

Or; everyone fears Batman. the younger heroes tend to forget it. Bruce is thrusted into the hesitant uncle role.

The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain by sleepypapaya

The Core 4 are neurodivergent icons, basically.

His name was king by theresurrectionist

Everyone knows who the butler is.

The cape void by Charleswaterloo

In which Batman’s cape may or may not be bigger on the inside, contains many sandwiches, creates more problems than it solves, and is the constant delight of his children.

‘We played hide and seek in the cave once and Tim had the bright idea of hiding in the Cape Void,’ Dick said, smiling slightly evilly at him.

‘Yeah, that was a weird couple of days. The void demons are nice, though,’ Tim added casually.

‘What?’ everyone said at once, heads snapping towards him.

(A series of stories detailing the problems that occur when several lightly insane vigilantes have access to an unexplainable void.) -

Three’s a crowd (but I’m here if you are) by JUBE514

Bernard pops the top off his water bottle, a roll of his wrist at the perfect angle and it comes right off, and pops the faucet in Tim’s very nice kitchen to cold. Tim presses a kiss to the back of Bernard’s neck before Tim moves to the fridge to get his own water.

Bernard used to not drink as much water, but Tim drinks enough water for three people a day so Bernard naturally has followed- and now Bernard has no acne so he’s sort of mad about it actually. “The main character has two hands.” Bernard chimes easy and teasing. “Polygamy is the awnser here babe.”

Tim peaks over the door of the fridge. “Oh? Is this you telling me something?”

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Tim Drake, Bernard Dowd, and Kon-El have two hands each. They use them to hold onto each other.

Emergency line by crucifixinhell

Hal Jordan would like Bruce's kid to stop calling him at absurd hours of the morning, please. (Except not really.)

(AKA the one where I try to give you emotional whiplash as many times as possible.)

Ten cents richer by ms_trickster

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

That’s how the saying goes. Take enough punches from the universe and eventually it becomes harder and harder to pop back up, to see the worth in fighting back, to stop yourself from turning around and delivering some punches of your own.

Tim never wanted to become the villain—

“Appendicitis,” Tim breathed in disbelief. “Are you fucking kidding me?”

—but he’d be lying if he said he wasn’t tempted to burn the world to ashes when shit like this kept happening to him.

A campy camp-out by summerbummin

What would happen if Young Just Us discussed gender and sexuality at their camp-out?

Bart says gender is fake, Kon wasn’t aware people of the same sex could date until now, Cassie believes it’s a universal truth that everyone thinks girls are gorgeous and Cissie has to correct that misconception, Tim is procrastinating his sexuality, and Greta is the personification of that meme “she’s a little confused, but she’s got the spirit”

It’s chaos basically

Jason Todd: The Not-So-Outlaw by GoAwayOlivia

Jason Todd isn't what Batman made him, he isn't what the Joker made him, he isn't what the League of Assassins made him, and he isn't what the Lazarus Pit made him. He's his own person and he's taking himself back, one home renovation at a time. Also he might just make friends with the people who are supposed to be his brothers while he's at it.

death is only the end if you assume the story is about you by unluckyloki

Young Justice crash-lands on an unknown planet and disrupts a very important local ritual. The whole planet's life depends on it and now Superboy is about to be sacrificed. There is no way to stop it, except - Tim has a plan. Maybe it's not a good one, but there are no other options.

#mads posts #fic recs #fic rec list #dc fic recs #dc fic rec list

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