#and then in earthspark people got mad when you pointed out how poorly he treated others

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being a starscream fan is always difficult because you have to navigate interacting with people who completely pacify him and excuse all his actions and paint him as a innocent person who can't be held accountable for the shit he does. and going as far as saying you excuse abuse if you try to hold him accountable for how he treats others. nevermind the fact that u yourself are an abuse victim and you wanna look at him multifaceted and you know, not excuse his abusive actions toward others.

but at the same time, you also have to navigate people who absolutely HATE him, and will act like they don't and claim they just see him critically, when most of their content is bashing him for his abuse, excusing it, saying he's an awful person and getting mad at people for seeing him as a victim or wanting him to have better. literally saying he deserves what happens to him. ike a lot of people will flat out slander him, while uplifting characters who are worse than him, will say that starscream doesn't deserve redemption, or saying that anyone who wants better for him is excusing him or worse, going out of their way just to be extremely unfair and critical to him.

it's difficult because i love starscream and i do see him critically. but it's hard being around people who will just pacify his actions, and then try to go to someone so you can have indepth convos about him only to realize that 'oh, this person actually hates starscream, they haven't said anything remotely positive about him'.

#esp like in tfp #then yeah i do get why people tend to be protective of the character #and i wa slike that at a point too #especially in prime and idw #but when i found myself excusing how starscream treated others -especially knockout #then i had to take a step back #and then in earthspark people got mad when you pointed out how poorly he treated others #and even in idw - he treats bumblebee and windblade like absolute shit and people just brush over it and also only care about bumblbee in #a sense where bumblebee only exists to take care of starscream and his problems and he can treat him anyway #the same thing happened with starscream and knockout #and when people just constantly excuse that and use the excuse that he has trauma #and that we can't hold him accountable then yeah that sucks #on the flip side you have people who only call out his flaws and are extremely hateful toward him and even blame him for his abuse #like yeah you have people who rightfully call out how shitty he treats others and are very keen to make sure that we know he isn't this inn #innocent person #but that is where it stops and they continue to hate on him #they get mad at him for his abuse and not u know mad at the person who is abusing him in fact many times they stan and defend that person #and all their content surrounded or focuses on starscream is extremely critcal and unfair #and only focuses on how bad he is and gives him absolutely no nuance or empathy #a lot of 'critical fans' of starscream really just care about shitting on him and slandering him and acting like he's the worst possible #person who deserves the abuse and the hate he got #and anyone trying to offer a nuance perspective and wanting him to be treated better is accused of 'woobifying him' when we're just saying #want him to be treated better #and it's like starscream is very complex and nuance and if you're going out of your way to slander him while uplifting other decepticons #if you are going out of your way to absolutely shit on him and give him no empathy or anything and shit on him and downplay what he went th #then you don't like the character and that's my issue #i haven't been able to find a really good balance #of fans akdjfl;afja #like it's either on one side or the other