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#back. why wouldnt they do the same with eddie? like just let his uncle not prepare a fun3ral for his nephew? dustin steve robin and nancy
heeracha · 2 years
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let me just put this here,,,,,,,,
#stranger things 4 v2 spoilers so if you havent watched..... scroll :D#or have any plans to watch scroll away#...........................................................................................................................................#..........................................................................................................................................#.........................................................................................................................................#okay so thats not morse code if ever u think that is but anyway im just not convinced that eddie is yk like it kinda feels like a big ass#open ending yk? firstly demobats cant k-word. if it k-worded eddie how come it didnt k-word steve? secondly the body. where's the body?#like bro eddie was with dustin right? im pretty sure dustin wouldnt have left it there + steve robin and nancy were there. u think they#would leave eddie like that? in second season (pretty hazy sorry) but when barb's body was found even if not alive anymore they brought it#back. why wouldnt they do the same with eddie? like just let his uncle not prepare a fun3ral for his nephew? dustin steve robin and nancy#wouldnt do that im pretty sure. thirdly dustin never checked the pulse. fourth a lot could have happened within two days. i may probably#just be thinking too much about this but at the same time every little detail in a storyline can change the whole thing. so just yk what if#until season 5 comes out and confirms that eddie did in fact d-worded THEN AND ONLY THEN will i accept that they wasted another one. but#for now i still firmly believe that eddie didnt. this is just me. again im probably just thinking too deep about this..........#and probably a coping mechanism about eddie's d-word
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ninthhousesteel · 2 years
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fucking hell
i stayed up till 4 am to watch vol 2 cuz i thought it’d be good and it was good!!
Good ol’ queer bait thats what it fucking was.
I’m sorry that the duffer brothers felt that this was good enough writing to finish something amazing, and i am willingly ready to partake in a rewrite of vol 2 because this was blasphemous. (apologies ahead of time for the sheer amount of ranting i am going to do)
okay like first?? steve??? just. no. that whole spiel about the six ‘nuggets’ (that wounded me) and him LITERALLY SAYING THAT LIKE HES STILL IN LOVE WITH NANCY AND HE WANTS HER TO HAVE S I X KIDS WITH HIM ITS LIKE HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW HER BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW SHE AINT BUILT FOR THAT. ALSO nancy was in the middle of talking about robin, a person for whom they both care about, and its like he just redirected the conversation onto him. it looked like someone tried to inject more ronance but then someone else just like sidestepped it into Steve/Nancy, which was SO bad. Steve and Nancy shouldn’t be a thing. they just cant give each other what they need. Same with Jonathan and Nancy. Honestly, I did enjoy their relationship in all the past seasons, but s4 its been so strained and weird and the fact that Jonathan didnt even come clean to her at the end about the college apps was just ridiculous, and the exact moment i knew that they weren’t going to last. even their interactions at the end seemed weird and stiff, like neither of them really wanted to be there. (I hope they dont make her get with either of them. And maybe im just a diehard Ronance shipper, but Robin and Nancy make the most sense!!!)
Second point- Robin and Vickie
10000000.999999% unneeded and unwanted and unfunctional. If youre going to give the only explicitly confirmed gay character a love interest, the worst thing you could do was use the ‘oh no my crush is straight oh wait no she dumped him and now i think she likes me’ trope. tired, overdone, nasty. not even to mention the fact that Vickie is just. a straight (haha) up clone of Robin. They are the same person. They could be revealed to be cousins in s5 and i wouldnt be surprised. It’s tasteless and pathetic to watch. And it’s even more hurtful, because so many of us fans genuinely are in love with Robin and invested with her because we can connect to her the most, and the Duffers just cop out of a genuine and amazing relationship (ronance) and just turn to the basic and unflavorful This Was Obviously Written By A Straight Person relationship of Robin and Vickie.
And Max. And, you know let’s loop in Eddie too. Since they both died. Oh wait.
I’m not even sure to tackle Max’s death. i love her SO MUCH. she’s my second favorite character (right behind Robin). if i was in that situation, i would have let her die. its just easier, and we dont even know if, once dead, she even wanted to come back. this trope of bringing someone back always has consequences, which is why im not really a fan of it in the first place. it requires delicate writing because the situation can get bad very fast. and as of vol 2, im not sure the duffers can do it. (that being said, obviously i dont know their plan for max, but plots like these are kinda hit or miss yk? its just such a big thing)
Eddie’s death was anything but compelling. Like, i knew he was dying but i was kinda…. bored? idk if thats the right word to use, but it just felt kinda off. and the fact that no one addressed it besides Dustin, like, Eddie had so many more friends. and in my mind i think the whole ‘eddie died saving a town that didnt love him’ was more of a white lie for his uncle, because eddie didnt owe Hawkins anything. i mean, it does make him a hero in the way that everyone who helped was a hero, but not everyone needs a ‘redemption’ arc to better be accepted by society. like, his whole thing was kinda that he was different and he didnt care what other people thought. and he had so much potential too!!!
this is long lmfao sorry if i jump into your asks later because i still have more grievances
st4 spoilers
no need to apologize for the long ask because everything you said is true
i know duffers will never actually let ronance happen but Why push stancy it just doesn't make sense to the plot at all please just let nancy pull her self worth away from whichever boy she chooses duffers let nancy be single challenge
and im grilling them for putting in the whole six kids thing ESPECIALLY with the word nuggets it wasn't cute it wasn't funny it made me literally gag
AND VICKIE im
i love amybeth and nothing of this is directed to her bc she was getting paid to play a role and i love her <3
BUT THE DUFFERS let vickie be a barely present and exact carbon copy of robin just to serve as her love interest. how fucking lazy is that? they see how popular robin's character is Plus she's the only confirmed queer character (since they wanna be ambiguous with will) on the show and they just throw her with an underdeveloped character for diversity points... and with the whole extremely similar personalities thing yeah vickie started to ramble but robin said like 4 words and ik thats just bad writing and they don't actually care about my girl but im choosing to interpret it as she got over vickie which Good For Her
max my poor angel they really did just use you for bait </3 and sadie doesn't even know her role in s5 yet and its breaking my heart can we have anything nice Also why go after one of the girls.... one who's been abused her whole life too like give her of all people a happy ending
eddie was such a wastef character :( he was so original and fresh and he could've helped robin break out of her shell more but the duffers had to keep up the boring old pattern and kill him and his death was Meaningless because he could've just climbed to safety but noooo we can't have nice things now can we. and the fact that no one addressed his death what the hell
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xdirt-bagx · 6 years
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A little update...
hey there.  so if you’re reading this is because you followed the link to this thing so that i could explain a little to what has been going on with me in the recent months since i left home in south carolina to spend a little while here in massachusetts with my small in number big large in heart family. 
so, let’s start at the beginning.  i am an only child born from another only child. and have had not negative but limited contact with any extended family outside great uncles and aunts.  so, family is small in number at the present moment.  after the death of my mother in 2015, it now is me, my dad (jerry), me grandmother (claire) and my grandfather (carl)...lets start with carl. 
for quite a number of years now carl has been living with dementia.  it probably started showing its face around 8 years ago or so, but i can say in hindsight that there were signs of it years before.  in the last 5 or so years it has taken away his ability or want to do much more else than sleep half the day, and eat a limited diet of ginger ale and sandwiches.  my main goal when i decided to spend the summer here was to spend good time with everyone but i also have had this feeling that carl was going to become a greater concern soon and i needed to see what could be done.  withing a few weeks of me arriving here he started to show some new behavior that bordered on manic episodes and talking to himself. in about a weeks time it came to a head when he awoke in the middle of the night and started acting very erratic and in ways i thought were possibly going to hurt himself or my grandmother.  i stayed up through the night attempting to keep him still and calm until in the later morning i was able to get in contact with his home care nurse.  she advised to take him to the VA hospital nearby immediately to be checked for any infections that may have changed his mood and behavior.  after some time when we got him there and had him checked over, as i was trying to calm him down for a chest scan and i was alone in the room with him, his eyes locked and rolled back as he went into a grand mal seizure.  my first i have ever witnessed.  the med folks came rushing in and did what they do and as the seizure passed and he was stabilized, he was transferred to the nearby hospital with a better staff to handle his turn for the worse.  as the day and night went on and the sedatives wore off he began to become aware again and continued with the self dialogue and manic behavior that after a few hours turned into rage and outbursts of anger and statements of killing the people who hurt me.  he was sedated and i finally decided to return home to be with my grandmother who has stayed home when he was taken to the hospital.  over the next couple days he was up and down and sedated many times. finally he was places into the geriatric behavioral floor while we have been figuring out the best skilled nursing care place in a nearby location to place him.  this has of course been a big stress on my grandmother claire, as they have been eash others lives for almost 50 years and she has been his main caretaker for all this time.  but at 85, i know she is in a real danger of not being able to take god care of him anymore, and that placing him in a good place where people can watch him and make his life proper for however long he might have left.  this is hard, very hard, but we both know it is the right thing to do.  more will be known this week with where he will be going.  speaking of this week, lets move to my grandmother, claire....
having been one of my greatest influences in life, and my caretaker at times while i was growing up, claire has been my main reasoning for making this trip.  she needed someone close to be here.  to help with things around the house and spend some good time with. and thankfully as time would allow it, to help with what has been going on with carl the last couple months.  i wouldn’y have it any other way.  yet, she has her own great struggles on the horizon.  to say that she has been through a lot on the last 5 years would be a great disservice.  she has taken care of her carl, as well as my mother at times until she lost her too the beginning of 2015, and has since lost both of her brothers, bob and eddie.  all the while dealing with her own set of health problems which included having some skin cancer surgically removed from her left upper cheek and nose in the last two years.  something she actually hid from me altogether until last year when my father informed me against her wishes,  she didnt want to worry me.  crazy right?  well, a couple weeks ago after weeks of having consistent headaches and some tenderness in her former surgery area, her doctor sent for a head x-ray and cat scan.  to which he then sent us to an ear nose and throat specialist who with a quick look down her nose with a little camera, informed us more than likely, her cancer has returned where it had been removed 2 years ago.  coming up this week we make the trip to the dermatologist at beth israel cancer center in boston to find out for sure and take it from there.  again, very scary and stressful a thing to have to deal with at this time especially, but from what i have read, this kind of cancer is rarely dangerous unless it spreads and get close to other sensitive areas in her head, but i am hoping we have caught it i plenty of time to deal with it properly.  i wouldnt want to be any where else than with her while we find out whats best and to come.  to ease her worry as much as possible and be her support.  and speaking of beth israel boston, lets move on to my dad, jerry...
he is not my grandmothers son of course, he is their son in law,  a little over a year ago, the apartment he has lived in for the last 15+ years was sold to another owner who promptly ended all leases and asked every out in 30 days.  he needed a place to live, and i needed someone to help keep proper eyes on my grandparents.  so we cleaned up a room and threw some paint on the walls and moved him in.  hes been a stupendous help since.  besides being able to take my grand folks to their doctors and what not, hes also a good cook which my grandmother greatly appreciates ha ha.  about the same time carl went into the hospital, jerry was having some blood pressure problems that ended up with him having to have an angiogram that revealed 3 major (90% or more) blockages around his heart.  one week ago he was admitted to beth israel boston and was given a triple bypass to head off any future heart attacks and such.  he’s laid up now and headed to a rehab place to get strength built back up.  it’s gonna be a bit of a healing process for him im sure, which is why i am going to be here as it stands a bit longer than first expected. 
so, now that were all caught up, i wanted to get y’all updated and thank the lot of you for all the well wishes and phone calls and what not.  i’m sorry that i haven’t been great at keeping up with back home or been good at talking to many of you as that talking isn’t something i have been a big fan of lately.  admittedly i have been a little overly reclusive with my thoughts and feeling and wants and such, but i’m thankful that i have the good life i have and the people that i love and the ability to stop a lot of things in what normal life i kinda have to come here and be of service. 
maybe next i’ll actually take a stab at describing the feelings and emotions that one goes through in the midst of this really hard season, but i’ve never been good at putting all that into words and sharing things or having attention put on me.  but, i’m trying to make a change to that for my own mental health and stability.  i guess we’ll just have to see wont we.  ‘til then, love all y’all. 
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httpwinston · 6 years
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"WE ARE NOT AFRAID"(It Fanfic)
Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3
chapter four-"i dont know maybe because we know a killer clown is back"
ritchie was the first one to get up he saw billy and beverly sleeping together on the bed and same with him and eddie.
(there was a couch in billys bedroom.)
he got up and he pushed easily eddie off of him the couch was big he went into the bathroom.
he didnt know what he felt with eddie it was something because he loves everything about eddie his smile, the way he says stop calling me eds, or the way he plays with richies hair.
"richie can you hurry in there!" he hears billy yell.
"we are home!! billy!...oh.. i didnt know the boys were spending the night" billys mom said.
eddie woke up and same with beverly they walked into the livingroom same as ritchie and billy.
"well we are not going to be here all day because we are going to bens"
"oh..okay you guys have fun me and your father we are going on this couples vacation thing i know i have been gone lately well here is 100 bucks bye sweet heart" as she kissed billy on the cheek and left.
(only if this happened in real life xd)
"hell i wish my mom would do that" eddie said.
they all laughed
richie invited mike and billy invited stanley a course he back out but then he said yes took time but he said yes.
they were walking to bens house.
they all havent really talked since the whole thing happend.
mike started to ignore the losers  but the only ones that he didnt was richie and eddie
and stanley he hangs out more with billy.
and ben he doesnt talk to them because he has been more focus on his school work and clubs.
they walked up the stairs to bens house beverly with her red painted nails pressed the door buzzer.
"who are you kids?" his mom said with an attuide.
"we are his friends can we see ben?" beverly said.
and plus his mom said that he couldnt hang out with them because she saw his reseach on "it" and thought he was going crazy.
"oh i remeber you kids you are the kids that told my baby about that "it" shit"
"its true you.." richie started to say but eddie covered his mouth.
"get the hell off my porch!"
"n.no m.miss p.please can we s.see h.him s.sorry a.about richie"
"whatever six mintues then you guys are out hes up stairs in his room"
they all ran up those stairs and went into his room.
beverly hugged him she notice he lost alot of weight but she didnt say anything about it.
"hey ben we thought you were dead"
"why would you guys think that?" as he pulled the hug away.
"oh i dont know ben maybe because you ignored us after we got rid of the fucking clown" ritchie said upset.
"rich shut up" eddie said.
"no im tired of everyone suger coding shit"
"okay im sorry i have been ignoring you guys its because after the whole "it" thing i freaked out and i guess i was trying to forget"
"well we could have helped you forget" beverly said while smiling at him.
billy getting jealous but he just doesnt know.
stanley hugged ben and they all had a group hug its been forever since they had one.
"not trying to be mean i actually like you guys around but why are you here"
"w.well d.dont f.freak w.we saw 'it'"
he looked scared
"well last night i was at the library  studying for the finals and i saw this baloon like i did when i was younger last time i was there but i ran out of there."
"oh shit..shit"eddie said nervous
"okay lets not fucking panic we put it down once we can do it agian"
"lets go to the quarry " beverly said.
"yeah" they all said.
they were walking to the quarry because it wasnt far.
"okay why are we quiet?" mike said.
"i dont know maybe because we know a killer clown is back" stanley said sarcasticly.
richie was behind the group because he saw a sewer and what he said.
"you better not hurt any of them fucker or my eds i will fuck you up i beated your ass with a baseball bat agian i will do it agian fucker"
"hey rich are you comming?"
"yeah! dropped my lighter!"
"just stay away from that sewer" eddie said while pulling richie along with them.
they sat on the rocks where they sat when they were little.
but eddie was in between richies legs and richie was cuddled up to him to warm him.
"so im just going to bring it up what are we going to do to 'it'?"
"maybe if we ignore 'it' then he will leave" eddie said
"yeah we never tried that" ritchie said.
"i dont think we can ignore 'it' remeber what happened to those bullys they werent kids"
"shit! shit why couldnt he just stay away"
and ritchie just cuddled eddie to calm him down
he whispered in eddies ear "its going to be okay eds"
and eddie felt safe.
"do you guys want to come to my fight tonight?"
"your fighting tonight but we have school tommrrow" eddie said.
"well we need money and my moms job sucks" ritchie said.
"well lets hope you dont turn out like that richie" stanley said laughing
"well i got to get out of here i have to get ready"
"w.well we s.still h.have to talk a.about 'it'"
"well im not scared of a fucking clown we got rid of him once we can get rid of him again"
"yeah hes right guys we did get rid of him" mike said.
everyone followed him to the devils place.
richie was getting pump while mike was getting high and drunk.
billy just getting drunk same with all of them except for eddie and ben.
they all got there seats and eddie was eating popcorn.
"im kinda scared bev"
"you are always scared eddie"
"let me have some of that" eddie said he was tired of being that innocent guy.
so he gulpped it.
"hey slow down eddie"
eddie could feel a pain in his throat.
"how can people drink this bev"
"they drink it and then it gets better"
then eddie drinks more of the alchol that he is regreting because he knows he has school tommrrow and he cant go back home because his mom would freak.
then eddie saw richie punch this guy in the face and eddie yelled.
"get him babe!!"
and the guy punched richie and he punched the guy in the face over and over again and he fell backwards.
"richie toizer!!! is the winner!!"
all the losers got up and hugged ritchie.
"good win bro" mike said and they did that guy handshake
"wow i didnt know you could fight like that" beverly said.
eddie knew he could fight ever since sixth grade when this guy name nick wanted to fight him lets just say richie won.
richie collected his money and a guy who owned the place said.
"you should come back agian your dad was good here before he died".
yeah his dad died here but the guy that was beating him was his step dad.
"yeah ill be back"
"the toizers have always had our back til they died"
eddie didnt like the sound of that.
"yeah..yeah uncle bill i get it" the uncle isnt on his side of this family hes on his moms side.
"rich what did he mean til you die?"
"oh its nothing eds"
eddie knew he was lying did it mean he had to fight til he died.
ritchie grabbed eddies hand and went out of that place mike stayed and same with stanley.
ritchie, eddie, billy.ben, and beverly walked out of the devils place
"how can you guys go there everyday?" ben asked
"well we just do...you should come with us everytime i missed you"
and yes billy was jealous he hated that she loved ben he wanted her love.
"well guys im going home"
"oh okay billy"
"oh shit he didnt studder thats great!" eddie yelled.
"is there something wrong with him?"beverly said.
"how about you go check then princess" richie said annoyed he hated how she played with ben and billy like pick he thought she did this when she was younger.
"oh fuck you richie" she walked away and ran after billy
"you wish" richie said.
"billy stop!..what did i do?"
"y.you...w.why d.do you like b.ben? he ignored you but i s.stuck by you"
"really are you jealous and i never said anything about liking ben"
"we all know you do bev you dont have to say anything!..you really made me fall for you i.i was so stupid"
"billy you said that sentance so well"
"maybe because its the truth" now billy was crying and it was raining the girl he liked didnt like him as he thought.
"wait you fell in love with me?"
"yes bev do i have to say it louder hell! i will i love beverly marsh!!!..and im ashamed because she likes someone else"
you are thinking they are drunk well billy is he wouldnt have said all of this she grabs his face and says.
"well billy i love you to"
and they kiss in the rain
"get that snack girl get it!!" eddie yells smiling and richie kissed eddie.
beverly heard that and laughed while kissing billy.
and ben saw the kiss to he was upset because he thought beverky liked him he walked home.
"where the fuck did ben go?" ritchie said
"probably home babe because he did like her"
"he'll get over it"
"yeah lets hope because we need more info on it"
"can we ever stop talking about that clown?"
"no rich because we need to be careful"
"eddie you know i will never let that fucking clown hurt you...i love you to much eds"
"i love you to rich"
beverly and billy ran back over.
"hey guys on friday do you want to go on a dubble date"
"yeah that sounds fun..rich you wanna go?"
"yeah whatever but im not paying b.billy you wanna pay?"
"its billy and your p.paying for your d.date
"oh fuck it we are going"
"okay see you two tommrrow"
"yeah..yeah bye bev" eddie hugged her.
"awe eds you are making me jealous"
"oh shut up rich"
then they walk to richies house eddie had a unbrella richie took the unbrella because he was taller then eddie.
"i think you are the only person i know who carrys a unbrealla everywhere he goes"
"i dont carry it everywhere rich"
they went to richies house because richie's mom is at work.
"do i sleep in your room or the living room"
"eds your sleeping in my room"
"what if your mom suspect something"
"its not like she'll know that my eds spent the night"
he said while walking in his room with eddie richie grabbed eddie whast and put eddie on his chest while they lay in bed.
"rich going to school is going to hell tommrrow everyone is going to have questions about us the group back together its like the ghostbusters if they would have split and came back"
richie chuckled and said" well i dont care what people have to say about us and the group who cares what people say about it and we are not like the ghostbusters we are losers"
"well you did.."
"its time for bed eds"
as he turns off the lights eddie could here richies heartbeat maybe he still didnt like clowns.
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