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why the hive fckin suck at its job: a rant
spoilers for tgwdlm ahead!
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first of all, it's important to consider what exactly the hive's job is. my answer is... who the fuck knows. literally. what is the hive's aim. what do you want Paul? more like, what do you want hive? let's find out!
it kinda evolves, as the play progresses. the intial aim of the hive, and one that does actually remain consistent is the constant burning need to grow and devour and gain more and more (insert capitalism metaphor here).
however, this is distorted by the people it possess who influence that aim, as we'll see later.
also the fact it crashes into a theatre displaying Mamma Mia gives the hive the motive it need to fit the world around it to the structure of the musical. having no originality of its own, the hive instead just picks up what is given to it. kinda like an evil baby.
it wants uniformity, that is indeed its ultimate goal and desire, no duh. it thinks it can achieve that through musical theatre, shame that the hive is dead wrong. cause the hive fucking sucks at its own job / aim / ultimate purpose / one concrete goal that motivates all its actions.
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can't maintain control over its subjects
okay, so, the hive wants uniformity. it wants everyone to be dancing to the beat of its own tune. right? yeah. shame it literally can't keep its own possessed subjects in line at all. at the risk of sounding like the 10th doctor waxing lyrical abt humanity for the 50th time, humans are really difficult to control cause we're not really motivated by an altruistic allegiance to one primary good. we've got icky emotions that often move us to do stupid unpredictable stuff way more. it makes me wonder if the reason the hive wanted to use musical theatre to try and persuade ppl was cause it seems to think that is how theyll get emotive humans; through emotive songs. anyways. let's look at some examples shall weeeee?
Mr Davidson:
so, Mr Davidson. funnily enough, he's the guy whose in part acting as the hive trying to figure out what it wants through his interactions w/ Paul. every person it possess gives it just a bit more humanity and curiosity abt the world it is currently taking over. at least I think so. hence why as the musical develops u get character's like possessed!Alice wondering 'why does it hurt to love?' - the change in music and mood to something much more introspective really suggests to me that the hive is beginning to question the thoughts and emotions of its human hosts.
Mr Davidson is a family man through and through, he loves his wife Carol. she's his muse, his source of light. his feelings for her are not concrete or easy to explain and solve - hence why his sudden ahem demand of her is so hilarious and also jarring. it completely clashes with the 'I want song' which is simple, and often pushes forward a wider cause. not so with Mr Davidson, he just really loves his wife man. enough to break a frickin alien possession.
tbh I think its hilarious that (at least to me) the hive has to force him to forget and continue with the song, like, he straight up is just talking to his wife in that phone call, talking, not singing. so, no possession until he reverts back into song. ergo, the hive cannot maintain the uniformity it wants. even from the get go when theoretically its control should be stronger cause it has less ppl to co-ordinate. bad. at. its. job.
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Paul:
this one hurts folks. yes, I know it's generally agreed, though somewhat debated that the state of Paul by the end of the tgwdlm is not purely possessed. I agree. once again, the hive is unable to truly enforce uniformity.
at this point, the motives of Paul and the hive are kinda just mixed, neither fully human nor fully alien. hence the constant shifts between pleeing for her to get away, to hide, to stay safe: 'what if the only choice is you have to sing to survive' and just full on old style hive nastiness 'let me puke in your mouth and just open your food bin girl' (so romantic 🥰 /j).
the hive has gone away from its original aim, and become something... different. no longer stuck to just one type of genre or style of song, it's really clever to show the developing complexity of the hive by showing how it is now juggling lots of different motifs with references to all the old songs from before recontextualised in a new way - its learning. evil baby... no longer uniform.
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general miscommunication:
there are several instances of the hive not fully having uniform control over its subjects. for instance, right after not your seed with the three teens having to like... calibrate. they aren't just completely connected then?? also, this is a very small thing, but uhhhh at the end of inevitable when Paul is about to say the apotheosis is upon... the chorus interrupts him with USSSSSSS. interruptions??? not very in sync of u hive.
I think this inability to exert uniformity is also shown in the contrast between genre of musical theatre. my alien abomination cannot decide whether it wants to be the more modern edgy rock musical (join us (and die), not your seed ) or super happy go lucky old style musical theatre (lah dee dah dah day, and inevitable). it tries to do both, even while trying to encourage union, and sticking to one thing. hypocrite!!!!!
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2. aims are guided by the people it possess
so, I mentioned this a bit already, but the hive isn't only mutating the humans, the humans are mutating the hive right back. this is more an interesting observation than any actual analysis but let's goooo.
greenpeace girl:
I think it's very likely that greenpeace girl is one of the first to be possessed. This is probably easily debunkable but whatever this analysis is flying by the seat or its pants anywayyyyy. why? cause where else would it pick up that whole 'this planet needs fixing' thing? it's interesting too, cause it morphs from expressing the desire to join hands and sing together, unity and peace with no actual action behind it. this then goes right to the other end, with the hive going 'fine I'll do it myself' and trying to save things by enforcing a dictatorship on the world. it develops and changes, and strays from its original means of accomplishing its aims! speaking oooooof...
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3. inconsistent in means of accomplishing aims
okay, ur an evil hive mind. u think musicals are the way to win over these silly humans cause they're all weak and emotive and seem to respond to them. but, wait! schwoopsie! you haven't realised that for emotional depth and growth to mean anything, you need there to be established development and well... growth. otherwise the sentiments are as vague as the ones expressed in What Do You Want, Paul?
this show has genuine emotional moments, just not really during the musical numbers WITH EXCEPTIONS. any strife is smoothed over quickly, and so the development and change that would have to go into such growth is just gone. (see, You Tied Up My Heart) all so it can achieve its own desire to grow and grow and grow, maybe a metaphor for art being killed under late stage capitalism??
what actually matters is the impact the songs have afterwards, in causing a death - because we have a bond and care abt these characters. those short scenes between Paul and Emma are actually way more resonant than any song. except... inevitable, and also not your seed a bit. at this point the hive has learnt a thing or two, and can actually twist human emotion a little. but for it to do that, it has to reject the uniformity it prizes, and be adaptable. point towards being more human than it first thought? methinks so. and yet it's just not enough...
it's also why let it out, to me, feels really ingenuine. Paul has expressed himself in much better ways already. what they're doing is clearly paining him, and hurting the guy. he's terrified bless.
you can't force someone into being emotional vulnerable, man.
it's why all the deaths for the characters who are forced to express themselves are really violent, involving them being ripped open - literally forcing them to expose themselves from the 'inside out' as Alice reflects in Not Your Seed. you can't force genuine emotional connection, it has to be fostered, shown in the much more affecting relationship of Paul and Emma. the only reason the hive actually has power over our characters is because of these genuine emotional connections, which it tries and often fails to take advantage of, resulting in just resorting to brute violence. messy hive, very messy.
at the core, the musical's a kinda attack on that toxic positivity mindst: trying to force people to reach the sort of easy solutions by sharing feelings in a way that feels pretty invasive and deciding you are instantly fixed. the problems these characters face are jarringly not really what you'd expect a character in a musical to face, cheating, a lot of it, mid-life crisis. problems that are bland, or wayyyy too real. this is purposefully done, to reveal just how silly the hive's aim to use musical theatre to solve everyone's problem is. life is more complex than that smh.
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4. a human can write a much more expressive, and genuine song than they ever could lol
u know which song I'm talking abt. what more is there to say. so much for making persuasive songs to tempt people over.
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5. make me sad cause they took some perfectly nice ppl and funked them up 😭
this was a stupid point lol. basically I'm just bitter that this hive took a bunch of perfectly okay ppl and gave them hive brain. screw u hive. I swear I'm gonna watch Black Friday soon, cause I'm sure it's gonna completely destroy every thought I've had so far, but whateve,,, just take this as a look at tgwdlm like it's a stand-alone piece.
these guys are supposed to all be 'individuals' on one level, but also 'appendages of a much larger organism'. there's a little too much individualism and fracturing to be cohesive enough to do that I feel. the hive to me is not an infallible, unstoppable force, in fact, every human it takes over only brings it closer to understanding us. so that's maybe a slight positive note??? idk ?! I just have lots of thoughts and feelings abt this musical even if this doesn't make sense I'm proud i wrote it down hehe.
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Canon ‘Verse
This post contains sbb2017 works that fall into the category of canon compliant. They are sorted chronologically by when the story takes place.
The categories are Pre TFA, TFA Era, Post TWS and CACW/Post-CACW. Take your time and look through what authors and artists have been working on since June!
AU Part One | AU Part Two | AU Part Three | Masterpost
Pre TFA
The Olive Groves by AgentCoop
Rating: Teen and Up
Words: 25k
Archive Warnings: Major Character Death, Graphic Violence
Tags: 1940s, Bucky Barnes Recovering, Bucky Barnes Feels, World War II, Musician Bucky Barnes, Artist Steve Rogers, Living TogetherMutual Pining, Off-Screen Major Character Death, Angst, Recovery, Suicidal Thoughts
Summary
In the summer of 1942, war is on everyone's minds. Jobs are scarce, and boys are shipping out daily, but Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes have each other.
Steve wants to fight, and Bucky doesn't. In the end, it won't much matter.
Told in four parts, this story encompasses a year in Steve and Bucky's life prior to Bucky's draft notice, his time on the Italian front, his life for the next five years as he tries to pick up the broken pieces of his shattered mental state and put everything back together,and his inevitable return to Brooklyn for Steve.
TFA era
a perfect soldier by SouthSideStory
Rating: E
Archive Warnings: Graphic Violence
Words: 20,243
Relationship: Steve Rogers / Bucky Barnes
Tags: canon-compliant, WWII fic, suicidal ideations, implied/referenced suicide, period-typical homophobia, antisemitism, descriptions of past torture, PTSD, unhealthy relationships, minor Bucky/OFC
Summary: Steve looks like a stranger these days, but at least the way he smiles at Bucky is the same: soft, fond, and a little bit smitten. It used to bother him, that the friend he considered a brother didn’t see him the same way. He’s never thought any less of Steve for it, but he also wasn’t quite comfortable with being the object of his affection. Now Bucky couldn’t care less how Steve loves him, as long as it means that Steve loves him most.
fanvid by shirasade | youtube | tumblr
gifset by shirasade​ | tumblr
Meet Me On The Darkest Night by Cryofreeze
Rating: Teen and Up
Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions of Violence
Words: 70k
Relationships: James “Bucky” Barnes/Steve Rogers, Peggy Carter/Steve Rogers( But she really just flirts with him)
Characters: Steve Rogers, James “Bucky” Barnes, Peggy Carter, Howling Commandos, Colonel Phillips, Arnim Zola, Howard Stark
Tags: Canon-Typical Violence, Blood and Gore, World War II, Captain America: The First Avenger, Canon Compliant, Protective Bucky Barnes, Steve’s identity crisis, Rescue Mission
Summary: 
“I know you think it wasn’t my fault, Buck…”
“You had to make a decision, there was no right or wrong choice.”
Steve blinked miserably at the stone step beneath his knees, grinding grit into his so-called uniform. “Maybe I’m not cut out to be a Commanding Officer.” He forced back a lump in his throat threatening to constrict his voice. “Or Captain America…”
~ ~ ~ ~
After the Howling Commandos’ last mission goes awry, Steve questions his morals and self worth as a soldier… and as Captain America. He struggles to believe in himself and the man he thought he was, but being thrust back out on another dangerous mission gives him little time to choose between his own self-doubts or giving his all to save 1,000 prisoners of war from Hydra’s clutches.
With the aid of Peggy Carter and the unwavering support of Bucky Barnes, they set out on a rescue mission inside the confines of a medieval fortress in WWII Europe. However, Steve isn’t the only one to find the ghosts of the place crawl under his skin…
There’s angst, action and an emotionally driven core to the tale of how Steve Rogers is forced to come to terms with what it really means to be Captain America.
Art by @samthebirdbae (10 black and white drawings)
Art by FieryEclipse (AO3) is embedded in Chapter One of the fic
The End of a Century by whatthefoucault (tumblr)
Rating: M
Archive Warnings: None
Words: 20,000
Relationships: James “Bucky” Barnes/Steve Rogers, Peggy Carter/Angie Martinelli, Mr. Proctor/Rebecca Barnes Proctor, Rebecca Barnes Proctor/Original Female Character, Peggy Carter & Steve Rogers, Peggy Carter & Rebecca Barnes Proctor, Howard Stark & Rebecca Barnes Proctor, James “Bucky” Barnes & Rebecca Barnes Proctor & Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanov/Sam Wilson
Tags: Slice of Life, Period Typical Attitudes, Recovery, Artificial Intelligence, Jewish Bucky Barnes, New York City, Canon-Typical Violence, Hospitals, Sexual Content, Pregnancy, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Post-Captain America: Civil War (Movie)
Summary: This is the story of a sister and her brother.As the shadow of the war fades and gives way to new conflicts, Becca Barnes battles the constraints of the twentieth century: an education, a marriage, a career, with the ghosts of her youth never far from her memory.  As the twenty-first century barrels on through its awkward teenage phase, Bucky Barnes builds a new life, with new friends, and a burgeoning relationship with his lifelong companion Steve, the erstwhile Captain America, as they struggle to find their place in the world.
The last time Becca saw her brother was on the eve of war; neither of them expected, some seventy-something years, a hip replacement, and one new arm later, to be reunited.This is a story about family.
Art by @samthebirdbae
Art by @blue-pointer
The Rabbit in the Hat by poppyfields13
Story by @poppyfields13fic​(AO3) Art by @kikisloveschocolate​ (AO3) Art by @ewburnthatshit​ (AO3)
Words: 37586 Rating: Explicit Tags: Alternate Universe–1940s, WWII, Bucky Barnes-centric, veteran Bucky Barnes, bisexual Bucky Barnes, skinny Steve Rogers, Gay bar, roommates, friends to lovers, friends with benefits, pining Warnings: Graphic violence, battle scene, PTSD, disability, period typical ableism, ableist slurs, period typical homophobia, Bucky/OCs, emetophobia trigger, smoking Summary: What if Bucky doesn’t meet Steve until the night before he leaves for the war? Bucky didn’t think he would ever see Steve again, after their one night together. But when he returns from the war, injured and struggling to readjust, he advertises for a roommate, and is surprised when Steve is the one to answer. Bucky realises he wants more than just friendship from Steve, but he doesn’t know if he’s ready, or if Steve even feels the same way about him.
Post TWS
Cause Two Outta Three Ain't Bad (But Three Outta Three Is Better) by AdelenMontgomery
Rating: Teen and Up
Words: 25k
Archive Warnings: None
Tags: Non-Graphic Violence, Period-Typical Homophobia, Internalized Homophobia, Implied/Referenced Torture, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Happy Ending, Minor Character Death, Minor Violence
SummaryBucky Barnes could tell you the exact moment he knew what love felt like. Not love in the family sense, or the friend sense, or anything like that, but in the love of his life or we’re soulmates kinda way. Not that he knew it at the time, of course, because how could he have possibly known? He knew it was love, sure, but how could he have known that it was the kind that was life-altering? But, as they say, hindsight is 20/20.
Ceremony of Innocence by @velvetjinx
Rating: E
Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Words: 22.8k
Relationships: Steve Rogers/Bucky Barnes
Tags: alternate universe: canon divergence, no cryo for Bucky, Captain America: Civil War spoilers, Fluff and Angst, Shameless smut, emetophobia, canon typical/compliant violence, choking, Bucky Barnes-centric, Bucky Barnes recovering
Summary: After saving Steve Rogers from the river in the wake of the failed Project Insight, Bucky is on a mission to find himself. As the memories come back thick and fast, he has to figure out exactly who he is now. But when someone blows up the building where the Sokovian Accords are to be signed and the Winter Soldier is blamed, he finds his new life at risk and realises that, for him, the fight may never stop.
Vid by @dracusfyre
Meridian
by
tippet 
Artwork
by
theladymania
Rating: T
Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Words: 31,700
Relationships: Bucky Barnes/Steve Rogers
Tags: Natasha Romanov, Sam Wilson, post-CA:TWS, standard winter soldier warnings, recovery, ft. a literal long and winding road
Summary: The finding goes both ways. (Steve goes missing; the soldier goes after him.)
Stop and Say You Love Me by eyesofshinigami 
Rating: Explicit
Words: 20k
Tags:Fluff, Smut, Light Angst, Mentions of memory loss, lots of book talk, Friends to LoversTen points to anyone who gets the book references 
Summary: Bucky doesn't ever remember he and Steve's shared past. Steve doesn't fault him or blame him, it just is what it is. They're dealing with it together, even though their friends don't always seem to understand. None of that stops them from figuring out how they used to fit together. It's not the same, but maybe it's something even better than before.
The Grand Plan by velleities
Rating: M
Words: 25k
Archive Warnings: Chose Not To Use
Tags: Canon-Typical Violence, Some angst, Dealing with PTSD, Some Alcohol Use, Bucky Discovers This Brave New World, Happy Ending, Bucky Barnes Recovering, Pre-TFA Relationship
SummaryThe Soldier doesn’t mean to be menacing, even if it's become the impression he naturally gives off. He wants to be a person, first and foremost, but he wants to be the right kind of person too, and that leads him to one irrefutable conclusion: he owes an apology to Captain America– an apology that he has to deliver, if the Soldier wants to be who he aspires. It’s just proving out to be a little harder than he thought...
CACW and post CACW
A Song for Eurydice by Optimustaud @optimustaud
Rating: M
Archive Warnings:  Chose not to Use Archive Warnings
Words: 19999
Relationships:  Steve Rogers/Bucky Barnes
Tags: cursing, torture, medical experimentation, suicidal ideation, mental illness, body horror, cannon divergence, motown and soul
Summary:  Ten years after the events of The Winter Soldier Steve tracks Bucky to an abandoned Hydra base in Siberia.  
Read the fic on AO3
Art by @riakomai / @artbyria
in these times of dying By: Marley Mortis
Rating:  M
Warnings: Graphic Violence
Tags:  Depressed Steve, Suicide Attempt, Self-Harm, Codependency, Binge Eating, Hurt/Comfort, Angst with A Happy Ending, Asexual Steve Rogers
Relationships:  Steve Rogers/James “Bucky” Barnes
Summary:  Steve’s fine. Bucky would rather be in cryostasis than anywhere near Steve Rogers, but Steve’s doing a-okay. Who cares if he’s angry all the time? He’s just peachy. Those weird fevers he’s been getting? Nothing to worry about, because Steve’s finer than frog hair. All he’s gotta do is destroy the last remnants of Hydra, figure out a way to disable Bucky’s code words, grieve Peggy’s death, and figure out what in the Hell to do with himself now that he’s not Captain America and Tony wants his head on a silver platter. Still fine, though.
A canon compliant character study into Steve Rogers’ mental state following the events of CA:Civil War.
Art By: Turn_turn_turn
Mirrors in the Smoke by JudeAraya
Tags: Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Dissociation, Mental Breakdown, reference to past torture, steve has repressed feelings, Therapy, CBT, EMDR, Psychotherapy, reference to food triggers, Dom/sub Undertones,Happy Ending
Summary
Steve told Sam and Natasha once that even when he had nothing, he’d had Bucky. The truth, he realized, was that without Peggy and Bucky, without the world he knew, Steve couldn’t even be Steve. But he could be Captain America. Steve’s been a stranger in a new world for a long time and Captain America was his best secret keeper.
Having Bucky back should be the thing that puts him back together, right? Finding him, being with him – it’s everything Steve’s pinned his hopes on. It’s a fucker of a truth now, to find this out – that Steve needed Captain America as much as anything else.
Only, Steve gave him up. Steve is no longer Captain America and he is definitely not well.
~*~ My contribution to the 2017 Stucky Big Bang. Spans from 2012 (post Steve coming out of the ice) to past Civil War
Perilous Underside of the World by eyres
Rating: Mature
Words:52k
Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions of Violence
Tags: Post-Captain America: Civil War (Movie), Action/Adventure, Competence Kink, Human Experimentation, Hurt/Comfort
SummaryAfter Steve becomes an unwilling subject in Ross's pet weapons project to make a next gen super soldier, Bucky is awakened from cryo to join a daring rescue operation to save Steve from an impenetrable government base on the Antarctica coastline. When things go belly up, Steve and Bucky must strike out on their own across the hostile landscape, with Ross's men close behind.AKA 'The one where Steve throws a snowmobile at a helicopter.'
The Way to a Man’s Heart by TetrodotoxinB
Rating: E
Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions of Violence
Words: 54k
Relationships: Sam Wilson / Bucky Barnes / Steve Rogers
Tags: Torture, Disordered eating, PTSD (multiple characters), Medical procedures, Suicidal ideation and behaviors, Steve/Sam/Bucky, hurt/comfort, Canon typical violence, Happy ending, Smut!!!!
Summary: Bucky wakes up from cryo in Wakanda eight months after the Accords and the fracturing of the Avengers. With the collective scientific genius of Stark, Banner, and Pym, Bucky has the priming sequence erased permanently from his mind. No longer the Winter Soldier, and having been cleared of his crimes following a dissolution of the Accords, Bucky returns to the states to try his hand at a normal life, or at least at doing good in the world. That normalcy is shattered when, after a mission gone wrong, some of Bucky’s conditioning reasserts itself and he’s forced to start back at square one. Bucky fights the physical and mental pain of his conditioning to learn to eat again after years of never being allowed solid food by HYDRA. At the same time, Steve is forced to confront his longest held beliefs. Through all of it, Bucky, Sam, and Steve fall together in different ways as they are forced to face their troubles and their pasts.
Art by TheRothwoman and ICouldDoThisAllDay
things of dry hours by jinlinli, 
Rating: T
Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Words: 32,154
Relationships: James “Bucky” Barnes/Steve Rogers
Tags: Canon Compliant, Angst, Slow Burn, Post-Captain America: Civil War (Movie), Captain America: Civil War (Movie) Mid-Credits Scene, Painting, Art History, Character Study
Summary: Bucky’s clothes rustle when he pulls a pocket knife from his jacket. He eyes the scratchings in the trees before carefully carving his name next to a crude stick figure with a gun. “You remember what it was like,” Bucky says, knife still in hand. “Don’t you?” Steve thinks of the flat surface of an ocean, the dreams of floating. A lukewarm sea lapping against his knees as he drifted alone. Water dripping off his chin. His eyes opened in a strange bed and a strange world. “Just a little, yeah.” Bucky nods. “I don’t feel cold anymore.” “I—me too.”
In the year after they leave the bunker in Siberia, Steve and Bucky find solace in painting, and maybe in the process, relearn how to be around each other again.
Oil paint colors art by Artbyria
Bucky’s self portrait art by artbyria
Two Idiots and a Baseball Game by RealTJHammond 
Rating: Mature
Archive Warnings: Chose not to Use Archive Warnings
Words: 20k
Relationships: Steve Rogers & Bucky Barnes
Trigger warnings :Light to medium BDSM,Spanking,Anal sex,choking,Homophobes.
Important Tags: post-civil war, bdsm, spanking, anal sex, pet play, homophobia, library, ptsd
Summary: It’s a year after civil war, I’m working a library just to kill time and so that I don’t have to deal with Stark complaining at me. Stark’s pranks get worse, so I stay near Steve, slowly falling in love with him, feeling the assassin part of me slowly disappearing. Steve and I fall more and more in love, soon getting together. I love when Steve gets dominant and soon we find out we want to have a BDSM relationship. I stay at Steve’s feet during movie nights,dinner, wherever and whenever he wants. Art by chalenmimi-frenchtoast  (http://chalenmimi-frenchtoast.tumblr.com)
Unspooling by mage_girl
Rating: T
Archive Warnings:  Chose Not to Use Archive Warnings
Word Count: 53K
Relationships:  Steve Rogers & Bucky Barnes, Thor & Jane, Clint Barton & Laura Barton
Tags: Geeks, Star Wars, Reconnection, Meta
Summary: After the events of Civil War, after Bucky is free of his trigger words courtesy of Wakanda, after the rescue from the Raft, the former Avengers get together for what Steve hopes is the beginning of a reconciliation and the mending of friendships.Bucky has never seen any of the ‘Star Wars’ movies so they decide to watch the movies together.Cue loads of conversation, geeking out, inside jokes, and maybe, just maybe, some resolution.
Art by whatthefoucault
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