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ninepentz · 2 years
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Analyzing jeffrey dahmer & dennis nilsen natal charts
So I came across a serial killer named Dennis nilsen who reminds me a lot of jeffrey dahmer. I found some interesting information about them,
Dennis is a sagittarius pictured below
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Jeffrey is a gemini pictured below
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If you haven't heard of them, if you're into true crime I highly suggest watching some documentaries on them like I did.
I'll drop some links here of the ones I've seen:
Jeff dahmer
(have to pay to view this 1st one but it was one of the best docs)
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Dennis nilsen
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Both are gay serial killers who started killing in 1978, even though I believe they are 20 years apart (dennis being older then jeff) it's weird that they commited these acts in the same year, which got me curious about what the heck was going on in that time that could of caused this.
A few details I learned about them:
Jeff is from the US & Dennis from England. What caught my attention is that they look so similar & they also have similar backgrounds. What's different about each one is that dennis seemed more emotionally available then jeff did, I guess bc his motive wasn't just to kill.
Not only are they alike but apparently both of their 1st murder victims were named steven. Idk what that means in numerology or spiritually but the fact that they have so much in common freaks me out, like universally these 2 killers must of had a connection 🤔
Now to the juicy stuff..
(The aspects in their natals are right after this section)
I looked up that years birth chart from the time span of each of their 1st kills & the only thing that obviously stood out to me is that there was Uranus in Scorpio from june during Jeff's 1st murder continuing through December on dennis's 1st murder.
The birth chart on the day of jeffrey dahmers 1st kill below:
June 18th 1978
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The birth chart on the day of dennis's 1st kill:
December 30th 1978
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My thoughts..
It's so interesting that the moon and uranus was transiting into Scorpio for jeffrey dahmer on his day, with the sun conjuncting his natal sun.
& with dennis nilsen uranus was in scorpio still and venus was transiting into scorpio too which is also his natal placement, along with mercury conjuncting his natal sun & natal mercury on his night.
Now let's pull up their natal charts.
Jeffrey Dahmers natal below:
May 21, 1960, 4:34pm.
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Dennis Nilsens natal below:
November 23, 1945, 4am.
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My interpretation of all this..
What's crazy as I'm looking at both of their charts is that they apparently have libra risings almost at the same exact 19 degrees 🤯 + the same thing with their suns at 0°
Also the fact that they have sister venus signs is another thing that stands out to me + sister sign suns, like that should tell you how much sister signs are so alike imo.
For jeffrey dahmer he didn't have much scorpio besides his neptune but if his birth chart on astrotheme is correct then he had a 8H stellium. That's so spooky to me.
Neptune in scorpio: describes someone who isn't afraid to explore the dark side of things, they like uncovering the secrets that no one should know about. They are comfortable knowing what others don't know and hiding in the shadows, no one really knows who they are bc they keep so much to themselves.
Uranus in scorpio transit: Scorpio a sign that associates with occult, sex, deep topics, breaking the rules, risky things + adding that into planet uranus which is shocking, eccentric, different. Put them together & you get sex or interests that are shocking, insane, unique. Both of these serial killers were necrophiles.
Jeffrey's house placements/natal aspects:
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Venus trine saturn: Jeff knew how to conceal his true motives and interests, tastes, attraction.. he knew how to be perceived as a normal, regular, average looking person.. he strategically did not share much of his love life or any of that with anyone, it seemed like he was a nice, easy going, neutral person. He probably learned this behavior from his dad/past experiences, on how to not look like a crazy, unstable person. He did go the army and there they pretty much teach you how to survive in the world, how to defend yourself, how to take care of yourself, how to follow orders, practicing cleanliness and working hard. He gave off a pleasing and calm venusian/saturn vibe but little did anyone know who he was deep down
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Mars square jupiter: Prone to extreme excess, he may have been the type of person who covers up his awkwardness and uncertainty by overdoing things. They did say he was a class clown and would do weird/crazy things for attention in school and I think this aspects explains that. Instead of expressing his anger, passion, desire, energy in a healthy way, he ends up doing too much. This also describes his impulsive ways and taking reckless risks that could be embarrassing later on. Not a good aspect to have on top of aries moon/mars both in aries. He has strong compulsions that he could not tone down. He was probably very rude too like if someone didn't agree with him he would say the meanest things in the moment. Mars square jupiter to me would describe someone who doesn't care about the consequences of their actions, they're too impulsive to realize them. Can be extremely aggressive, rude, confrontational, somewhat disobeying the law/society's structures.
Having such different POV from everyone around him that he felt kinda isolated with his belief system, religion and passions. To me this also says he didn't respect other people's beliefs only his own, selfish.
Moon square saturn: This definitely explains his abandonment issues, maybe he felt abandoned by his dad or care giver in general. He didn't have care, love, support from his parents. He could be emotionally immature, which only further isolated him. Socially awkward, cold, unemotional, distant, depressed/depressing to be around is how someone would see this person. To me jeffrey dahmer had abandonment issues and trauma from being lonely and left behind, this not only happened with family but with his "friends" too. So mostly likely to avoid feeling abandoned again instead of facing his issues and healing them, he resorted to killing people and keeping them with him forever. That was his form of revenge and getting control over his emotions, instead of them controlling him or making him feel abandoned/unloved ever again. Tbh I understand not feeling cared for... he must of been hurt so much to go to this kindof extreme just to avoid feeling pain. His parents could have also belittled him a lot and either blamed him for things or damaged his sense of security.
One of the victims who escaped him did say that as soon as they mentioned to dahmer that they had to leave, dahmer had started to panick all of a sudden and tried to make them stay by force but they got away anyway.
Mercury square pluto: Extremely obsessive mind/tendencies.
A squared aspect to me shows excessive and unbalanced actions, does provide energy to whatever it's aspecting. So it's an active aspect.
This explains his love for exploring the unknown side of life, for forcing his way past what's considered acceptable. This aspect could also explain someone who stalks others, invades personal space in the most offensive/disgusting way, extremely controlling up to the way people think around them. Wasn't afraid to face the most darkest/occult-like things. He was private with his own personal life but when it came to his victims for example they didn't have any privacy or respect at all, dahmer basically took away all their rights.
To describe this aspect, imagine a private investigator who's supposed to be finding information about a specific event, this person would do more then they are even allowed to do. They will break rules, moral codes, disrespect the law, even do illegal things to get to the bottom of whatever it is they have to do. Like working off the clock and doing your own personal investigation. So socially acceptable behavior/ideas is something a person with this aspect would not have. It pretty much explains the fact that jeffrey dahmer enjoyed killing animals and dissecting their insides, no normal person would go to that length to fill their curiosities. And he continued with this behavior when he started harming humans as well, he was dissecting human hands from his victims and their organs etc. It's like he wanted to see how things worked, what action triggered a reaction. So like injecting acid into a human brain to see if they could be his "zombie sex slave" alive/obedient and unable to defend themselves was his goal. He did lots of experiments I'm sure. Not only that but I noticed that he was not afraid to face death or things a person should not ever see, he was completely comfortable having heads in his refrigerator, the smell of death in his apartment 24/7, even as a kid seeing roadkill didn't even phase him or replulse him like it would anyone else.. so that to me says his comfort level was extreme, he probably wasn't shocked by much tbh.
Moon square Mc: He probably felt unsupported by the people around him, like his comfort style was not relatable to the public. Maybe his emotions, his sense of security was not something everyone could relate to. It was visible to everyone that jeffrey dahmer was a unique, odd, strange person. He could of used people and bodies as a form of security, having them fully to himself, owning them, controlling them made him feel like he had a support system/safe place.
He did try to show off some of the bodies he had, apparently he had a kept a human head in a chest that his grandma gave him and he took that to work, keeping it in his locker. To me that is someone who is proud of what they've done and is showing it off like some trophy/reminder of the power they have. No one knew what was inside the chest but him and that made him feel powerful that he had FULL control of this poor person he mutilated.
His attachments were very different from everyone else's, like to an extreme extent. Most people have attachments to caffeine like me or other things like drug, food, codependency addictions.. but Jeff's was clearly much different..
Venus square uranus: Odd sexual/romantic interests, taste/type, he was probably attracted to odd people or just had unique interests that you would look at him and say "there's no way he's interested in that, he looks like such a normal guy"
This aspect doesn't have to be sadistic like Jeffrey's interests, in general it could explain someone who ends up with partners that are much different from themselves. Like a normal quiet, attractive, man with a crazy, weird, unconventionally attractive woman. So basically is shows an attraction to uniqueness, to a unhealthy extent. In Jeff's case and since this is a squared aspect he had odd even shocking romantic/sexual attraction to death/people. Unusual interests, very specific type and open minded enough to try things sexually that no one's done before, testing the limits of your sexuality. Jeffrey dahmer was so sexually advanced and charged that he probably needed to do crazier and crazier things overtime to keep him satisfied and interested. He probably never had a stable love life if one at all.
Jupiter trine pluto: To me this aspect explains that he enjoyed being in the company of people who were much different from him, with different backgrounds, probably sexual attraction to foreign people. Many of his victims were poc, I think he felt powerful around poc for some reason. Like he knew the power and influence of his "whiteness" that's just my opinion idk how true that is tho, if he used his position to get away with everything. He said in an interview that it wasn't about race and just about how people looked but who knows. Back in the 1970s and 1980s I'm not sure how much racism was a thing back then. If you know anything about that I would love to hear your thoughts.
Moon trine uranus: This could be someone who is comfortable with being different and unique, maybe their emotions were erratic and highly changeable, very smart/intuitive tho. This could be another reason he got away with so much bc he was able to think on his feet and come up with lies on the spot but that could also be enhanced by his mercury/sun conjunction in gemini. They are such good smooth talkers. This aspect also explains that he was not your average monogamous driven person, he liked to have a variety of different interests and probably unique relationships. Like dating their friends, being polygamous, just overall having an unusual love style. His emotions were prone to being quickly triggered and then just as quickly disappearing as if nothing happened. People would have a hard time trying to understand or pin point his emotions. If he was nervous or anxious he could display a straight emotionless face, which makes sense bc even after the police was inside his apartment he was able to manipulate them well enough to believe his lies and not be suspicious.
Taurus in the 8th house: This is an interesting placement, it could explain his intense interest for physical features and sex. He would admire people's bodies after they deceased, he would pose them and take multiple pictures of them in different stages/positions. Arching their back to show off their figure, showing off their l private parts, their abs, skin, faces etc. In the tiktok links I posted the woman describes something like this, def check that out. This could also describe why he liked to eat his victims, like arousal from eating them. Both taurus and 8th house/scorpio are extremely sexual. This could be another reason he preferred to have full control of his victims, so they were not allowed to talk back, fight back, ask for anything in return, he just wanted to have full authority and rulership. He also had a very specific type in people, he paid close attention to every small detail of their bodies and features, he had favorites. His favorite people would stay with him and the ones he didn't want he discarded like trash or just let them free all together.
Taurus possession/greed, Scorpio obsession/control. He has his 2nd house in scorpio and 8th in taurus, to me that's so on point for jeff.. it's hard to explain but if you know anything about astrology you would know why those placements stick out.
Pisces in the 6th house: I think jeff was very spiritual and ritualistic, even delusional when it comes to his daily routine. Like he really believed that if he ate a certain victims body part, it would mean that the person would stay with them forever. For him it wasn't enough to just take their life, r*pe, control them.. he needed to consume them as well to feel even closer to them (8h taurus things) he was also into astrology to, or atleast his own zodiac sign. Bc his favorite movie to watch that apparently put him in the mood to find victims was exorcist 3. The main character was called the gemini killer and I looked into the movie to see what it was about and some sick things were said in it that I bet jeffrey dahmer practiced on his actual victims... he was very impressionable and probably worshipped evil entities/figures. 6h Pisces could also be someone with boundaryless, unorganized, health routines?? Like if this person was unhealed they would do lots of drugs, drinking, not brushing their teeth/showering etc stuff like that. If anything they would pay least attention to details and be kinda unaware of their bad habits. Or it could be the other way around like they cover up all their bad habits to seem perfect when they are far from it. He also did try to connect with the dead, I read somewhere he would have seances with an ouija board when he was younger.
Dennis nilsens house placements/natal aspects:
In the process of adding new info and stuff like that so come back soon so you don't miss any updates!😊
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Mars conjunct pluto: My 1st thought on this aspect is annihilator, this person was aggressive, deep, intense, bold, if they're mad at you I would stay far far away. I feel like someone with this aspect would not be afraid of confrontation, if anything they are the ones everyone's afraid of. His expression/passion is straight forward and he wants to explore the dark depths of everything that peaks their interests. My personal opinion is that mars conjunction pluto would automatically make someone a killer/prone to be. If that's not it then they have the potential to be that if you're a threat or give them a reason to become aggressive.
Travis the chimp has this aspect...if you haven't heard of him I suggest looking him up. Travis the chimp I think knew that his owner was giving him medications (xanax) to calm down and go to sleep and he didn't like it so he blew up and lashed out on his owners best friend who came to help her get Travis under control. He should have never been domesticated but the reason I bring him up was bc he severely mutilated his owners best friend.. ripping her face off, biting her fingers off and he would not stop for anything. Even after being stabbed in attempt to stop him.. that should explain to you the intensity of mars conjunct pluto.
Their anger is quick, fast reactions, suspicions, high energy, physically or energetically strong, assertive. He was possibly passive at some point in his life and would do so much for others but eventually things were not reciprocated end up building resentment and resorting to forcing their way, having this obsessive need to get your needs met. He was possesive, jealous, controlling. In the documentaries they mentioned it was less about sex for dennis and more about the company but with this aspect I feel like his sexuality must have been very strong...
Moon conjunct mc: I think this aspect would describe someone who is so sensitive to the feelings of strangers and the public, they might be easily affected by their surroundings esp during childhood. He did have some traumatic experiences as a kid like his mom asking him if he wanted to see his grandpa (who was his fav person), only to realize his grandpa was dead in a box... idk about you guys but I wonder if she did that on purpose to hurt his feelings. But that situation definitely has affected the way he viewed relationships in his adult life.. he started to associate love, peace, trust, safety with death.
Moon conjunct saturn: His emotions were very repressed, not to say that he wasn't an emotional person but it sure seemed like it on the outside. He was probably constantly reminded of his past and all the mean nasty things he's done and what was done to him. His mother must have been very cold and not nurturing, which left him very Insecure and unloved. He has always felt like the responsible one when it comes to nurturing himself and parenting himself since no one was around to do that.
In the documentary of dennis nilsen his mother said she felt uncomfortable around him and was "repulsed" so unlike all the other kids he didn't receive the same affection as the others. She tried to explain this as if it's his fault for her not being a good mom tho..I personally as a mom idc if me and my child have differences I will always be there to make them feel loved and secure. I think his mom was very stern with him and treated him like a worker bee.
Mars conjunct saturn: With this aspect maybe his sexual desires were held back a bit, he could have either had strong discipline or just felt like he wasn't able to preform bc of overthinking, constant self judgement. For some reason he felt it was his duty to be there for others and be the responsible person. Maybe he did too much to help others or become likeable, which pushed everyone away.
Mars conjunct mc: He had the strong desire to make his public life something he put a lot of effort into, he wanted to be recognized, respected, seen for all his good qualities. Strong, passionate, bold, adventurous, independent. Sometimes he may have been seen as selfish and overbearing. They did say on his documentay that he had a good job and on the outside looking in, he just looked normal. It was probably bc he had a lot to hide, so this mars conj mc was a cover up for his real life/interests.
Venus square pluto: A person with this aspect might have an unhealthy obsession with whoever they find attractive, they fall in love easily/deeply, become infatuated with people to the point of stalking. This person has deep control issues that stem from jealousy and insecurities. I feel like dennis nilsen may have been intimidated by alive people, bc humans in general have free will and are able to do whatever they please. But a passive unalived person would not be able to pose a threat to him or hurt his ego, so it's like he wanted to kill all competition and any uncomfortable feelings that may make him feel inferior like he has in the past.. there may have been some trauma related to that, feeling helpless and inferior. So that's why he overpowers others instead of expressing himself in a healthy way.
might be a very complex person in general and no one really wants to take the time to get to know all their layers so they end up feeling isolated and weird.
Mars semisquare uranus: his actions/energy may have been unpredictable and messy, one sec he was fine next minute he was not. This may have been what turned people away from him, he may have acted strangely at the worst moments. Making inappropriate comments or doing inappropriate things. He could of been highly intuitive with his actions/assumptions, but other people were sometimes not as ahead of time as he was so everyone seen him as a crazy unstable person. He was probably impatient and not always reliable
2nd house in scorpio/8th house in taurus: He basically craved loyalty, security, love, intimacy. So he got that by finding the perfect person and making that his main goal. What was valuable to him (same thing for dahmer) was having a loyal, subservient, solid, predictable person in their lives. All they wanted was the assurance that whoever they loved wouldn't leave them, not question them, completely trust them.. trust is something that was hard to find for these two people. I bet they were so intense and strange that people felt unsafe around them. But overall with the 2h Scorpio + 8h in taurus, to them possessing a person was the end goal. They were obsessed with having a physical, tangible, person/thing there with them, it gave them so much security to know they had full control over someone.. even if it was by force.
Here's some videos from tiktok I came across👇
This woman apparently was in a criminal justice class taught by the detective who interrogated jeffrey dahmer. Soo freaking interesting. I've never heard of any of these details she's describing bc there's so much law enforcement didn't share with the public about jeffrey dahmer.
I did some digging and found some of the polaroids😲, please only click the link below if you're ready for what you're about to see..
*NOT for sensitive viewers*
Knowing this now just brings it all into perspective about how evil and insane jeffrey really was..
For now this is what I've got so far while looking into these people, i'll be doing more research and adding new info when I find out more. So I hope you enjoyed it😊 If you did lmk I might do more. Serial killers are something I find interesting to dissect bc it's crazy that someone could end up being so evil/immoral + adding my love for astrology to that is another plus bc it validates how accurate astrology really is.
End note:
I checked astrotheme for jeff and dennis's birthdays and I guess they are all verified and the most accurate. Wow, thankful to whoever found that information
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ninepentz · 10 months
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Missing submarine
Forensic astrology chart reading
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As we know, pieces of the titanic tour submarine have been found. Authorities believe it imploded, meaning it crushed from the inside from too much pressure on the outside. They've confirmed there are no survivors.
I'm curious what exactly happened, someone who knew the person operating the submarine said that the time connection was lost with the sub would most likely be the time when this all happened, so let's see what that tells us.
This is only an astrology reading based on the last time victims were seen, date and location. I'm not trying to assume anything about this situation, this is just my personal opinion from what I can see below.
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Their descent started at 8am, so let's take a look at that chart to see what was going on. Chart above
Cancer ascendant:
This represents the victim in a crime chart so, the ruler of cancer is the moon so we look there to get more information.
Since we have a cancer moon in the 12th at the time, maybe the focus was a lot on the son at this time. Out of all the people in the submarine he was the youngest and the only one who prob hasn't done anything like that before, so ofc everyone is kinda watching him soak it in and who wouldn't want to see him have a good time. Those 4 men (not sure about dawood) knew the excited feelings he must of been feeling bc they were once that giddy young kid too.
Sun-moon in the 12th:
So in this chart the sun and moon are seen in the 12th house, so maybe it was visible and going according to plan. Everyone saw that they were entering the water, everything seemed fine. Nothing out of the ordinary, they felt safe.
Mercury in the 11th:
Maybe there were social media posts, something to do with groups of people, social type things, being online with friends/networks. This could also explain that they were in communication with the crew above water who are making sure everything is going smoothly and accordingly. Multiple people were involved joined together
Venus/mars in the 2nd house:
Maybe things got quiet from this point, they could smell their surroundings as they were inside the submarine, they were descending slowly.. you can hear every little thing. The bubbles, under water sounds, you can feel the quality of the submarine.. it felt like a supreme simplistic experience. At this moment, there was not a lot of talking. Mostly just taking everything in.
Jupiter in the 10th:
Maybe with this aspect they thought this would be an adventure to remember and be able to brag/show off/add to their list of accomplishments. 10th house is basically the MC so this was an important moment. Maybe at this time whoever knew of the titanic best was explaining the details and history of it to the passengers.
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Feel free to stalk Hammish Harding's instagram where this placement is described perfectly. He would often boast about his risky adventures that had even landed him on Guinness world records. He's done many risky, monumental things. His ig is posted above
Saturn in the 9th/pisces in the 9H:
They were very interested in what was going on in the water, the fish and what exact species they are, that kinda thing. They planned on going very deep this time it seems, with saturn in the 9th. I feel like they were determined to keep going and push through steadily. Stockton rush, I'm sure knew his submersible almost like how we know the ins and outs of our phones, fav places, songs, etc.. for him he felt like he was very familiar with his submarine so in a way he was also experimenting with how deep it can go and what reactions come from the vehicle when he does certain things. He was very technical about it.
He should of probably not taken passengers while in the process of experimenting still but what do I know. But they were determined to get it to work out well, he had no fear or thought in his mind that something as bad as what happened could go wrong.
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So this is the chart of the exact time connection was lost, June 18th at 9:45 AM. I'm going to treat this like a missing persons case, we start with the ascendant representing the victim.
Leo ascendant conjunct venus and mars which are in the 12th house.. scary stuff.
This reminds me of the kylie rodney case, her chart had mars in the 12th house too connecting to the ascendant.
What I think happened here was a very sudden explosive accident-
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When reading a crime chart, the ascendant and what it aspects gives you a picture of the situation.
So now with this new chart, it's now almost 2 hours later since they entered the water, it looks like the sun and moon moved into the 11th house.
Sun-moon 11H:
The crew was now aware of something, not sure exactly what. Maybe they were trying to locate the vehicle, idk if they have sonars on their side but I wonder if they were looking for them on the map.
Mercury/uranus both in the 10th:
Maybe since mercury is in gemini it was common for communication to go in and out so, there was nothing too alarming.
Jupiter/chiron/NN in the 9th:
Coming back to this one and finishing up the rest.
Ascendant conjunct venus:
I feel like venus is representing the submarine here, it seems like they created it to look pleasing, fun, to be a big eye catcher with the remote control and all but it wasn't built to take so much pressure or atleast the focus was more on the aesthetics/money. It was just supposed to be like for leisure type of use.
Uranus square venus:
Something unexpected happened, there was friction happening where things didn't function smoothly, prob technical difficulties, it was not pleasant or predictable, things were very rocky. With venus being in the 12th house it was something unknown to them, they couldn't figure out what the problem was. If it was an implosion like everyone is saying, their deaths would of been so quick and instantaneous, that the victims wouldn't have even had time to register what happened to them before passing away. I think the placements in the 12th house def support that, they would have probably felt drugged or some weird pressure 1st if any pain at all.
Uranus in the 10th house-
So maybe it wasn't uncommon that the submarine had it's problems, it would be unpredictable. It also was probably exciting for whose ever idea this trip was or whoever chose this particular vehicle bc it's not like typical submarines. That's why it was interesting for them, it was almost like something you normally wouldn't try but your curiosity, the novelty, the unknown was alluring.
Apparently one of the warnings said "this is not for tourists, this is for adventurers." So that means it's for people who are feeling risky.
This next video clip literally just blew my mind. The founder of the oceangate company/submarine operator and some comments from titanic film maker.
Uranus-innovation, rule breaking, defying standards. This was pretty much an experimental craft.
Ascendant square uranus:
There was always the potential for danger/unpredictability with this submarine, as the founder above was saying, this isn't something you were supposed to do but he did it anyways bc he thought that he could make something better than anything else that's been done before.
Mars square uranus:
Prob this just wasn't thought through, wrong timing, rushed thinking, rushed actions, prob someone was being too bold/confident, they wanted to have fun and test limits (mars) unfortunately that didn't end well (uranus)
It could be that all the men here were too adventurous for their own good, like they've been on wild adventures often enough that you start to feel invincible as if nothing could happen to you bc it is rare for these types of accidents. If even the oceangate founder was on board obviously he didn't know or expect this would happen, so it could of been that they knew it was a risk but they weren't concerned enough. Sometimes you can get carried away by wishful thinking or just plain ego.
Mars is in the 12th-
So they weren't paying attention to detail, they were missing the signs, maybe even the lights went out or something like that. Bc the 12th house would be completely hidden, unknown, unseen, invisible, unconscious.
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Neptune in the 8th house:
Anytime I see neptune in a crime chart I always think of water, but it could also represent, gasses, drugs, confusion. A pressure malfunction could def be something when in relation to neptune, the 8th house would describe being too deep.
If there was an implosion for a fact, what would of happened was similar to an explosion, but inverted, they would have been vaporized and crushed.
Google says 👇 and link for more info about it below
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They did mention on the video above that there's only 3 other submarines like this one in the world that can go deep enough to see the titanic. So it's rare
Jupiter conjunct MC:
Since stockton rush was the owner and operator of this craft and knowing what we know now, I get the impression that the father and son + 2 other business men were the ones "visiting" if that's the right word.
They really didn't know what they were getting into, they don't operate submarines, they don't know what the company was all about/legal requirements etc, they were just there for a new experience. Jupiter would be the father and son, possibly Hamish and paul henri as well since they are like foreigners here and MC would be the person in charge of the craft, the "authorities" that represent it.
For some reason I thought all 5 of them were friends of eachother but I don't think that's the case, it was like a business relationship.
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Quote above from a recent article... would you have gotten into this craft if you knew it was experimental? Most likely not if you want your life. What a shame tbh.
Other links/newest updates I find related to this case👇
06/28/23 NEW UPDATE! Human remains found(1st vid) along with photos of the submarine debris.
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Youtuber Dallmyd, vlogged their titanic tour experience on the SAME titan submarine that went missing just days before👇
He never got the chance to complete the dive bc there was complications with the submarine the whole time he was there. Wild
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Below stockton talks about he wanted to add more technology to the sub, I think he had great ideas tbh but this was def a disaster..
Someone from a different dive with stockton rush describes their difficult experience with the submarine
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Shazada dazwoods sister speaks about who him and his son were...
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RIP to everyone who was on board...what a horrible way to go
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Suelman, Shahzada Dawood, Stockton Rush, Paul-Henri Nargeolet, Hamish Harding.
For now this is all I got, hope that helped someone to understand the reality of what happened. There's still some aspects I didn't go through yet but if you're curious to know more, leave a like and I'll go more in depth. I have stockton rushes birthday info so I def want to look at that too
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**SOLVED**
Update at the bottom
22yo Yohanes Kidane has went missing.
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What we know so far is that yohanes took an uber from San Jose to San Francisco to "meet a friend". His uber ride was successful and everything was fine with that, he had apparently arrived at his destination. His sister said she checked his location at around 8 pm and found he was at the San Francisco Bridge which she thought nothing of. The next day/morning she noticed his location showed that he was still at the same exact location. Later on in the day, his location was seen moving to which his family tried to contact him from that point. A stranger had picked up the phone and said they found his belongings and were just returning them to the welcome center. He was officially reported missing at 2:45pm, August 15th. As of today he has still not been found and they say there is no evidence of suspicious activity.
What I want to do is see what the charts can tell us about his possible location and what happened that night. We have 3 different times and charts to look at so it should be good, we have a lot of information to dissect. Let's hope we can find yohanes 💜
August 14, 7:15pm chart.
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So by looking at this last seen chart alone, let's see what we can find out.
The ascendant (victim) is opposite the 7H moon:
This is interesting. I don't think this was just a friend, I believe he could of been on a date possibly with the 7th house here.
5th house gemini:
If he was with a friend, then their intention would of been to have fun and explore the golden gate bridge since it is an iconic historical place. The 5th house, which is pleasure, joy, recreation, entertainment is in gemini. So our curiosity, intellectual pursuits, knowledge/truth, experiences. It could of also been somewhat of a childlike curiosity to a dangerous extent bc he was definitely young and not from California. He had just very recently moved there from New York, so this could of been his 1st time visit. I'm not sure how busy it is at the Golden gate bridge welcome center at 8pm, on the website it says they're closed at 6pm. So not sure if he was there after hours or what, I just know during active hours they can be pretty busy/chaotic. There's a bunch of cars/traffic, variety of people/vistors/tourists/families etc, lots of things to do, so it's easy to be overwhelmed by everything going on there.
Jupiter square the asc:
He could have done something in excess possibly, maybe he is located far from where he's expected to be. Maybe something foreign and unexpected/untypical happened to him.
Mars sesquiquadrate the asc:
Idk why but I get the feeling he could of been under the influence, maybe smoking/drinking. Mars in hard aspect to the ascendant would be brash decisions, being to heavy on their feet, clumsy, impulsive, abrasive, excessively confident.
Even tho I don't think this is something he would do based on what we know about him and his past. If that's not the case maybe whatever happened to him was quick, harsh, forceful/painful, basically anything but soft or gentle.
Pluto conjunct ascendant:
It would of been very visible to others that he was a influential individual, maybe he was intimidating, powerful looking, deep, he could of also been eerily quiet at some points. Like his presence was felt strongly to those surrounding him.
He could of also seemed very naive tho at the same time since I just noticed that pluto is in the 12th house. Maybe this power and influence was hidden/dimmed in some way.
7H Moon opposite 12H pluto:
Maybe he was feeling very unstable at this time, like one second he was feeling safe, good, comfortable, in a familiar environment but then all of sudden he would be paranoid, hyper aware, afraid, suspicious etc. He could of felt like he was having some kind of psychosis, derealization.
I have my natal pluto in the 12h also conjunct my ascendant so I understand that feeling very much.
Something interesting is that with pluto on the ascendant and with moon opp pluto it seems like this could have a lot to do with assets, power, extracting resources from something/someone but all of his belongings were found. A backpack with his personal paperwork, 2 laptops, wallet. So if all of his belongings were found, it would be only him who went missing..
Let's not get too ahead ourselves bc this was at the point when he was seen leaving in the uber. Let's check out the 8pm chart.
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Wow...looks like a lot has changed since he left in the uber at 7:15pm.
Moon in the 6th house:
So the moon was in the 7th house at 7:15, meaning that he was definitely with someone at this time where it was mutual/give-take type of relationship. Could explain basically the whole uber situation "ride sharing" to now at 8pm at the Golden gate bridge. It's possible that he needed help at this time, the 6th house to me is our health, so I wonder if he was hurt already at this moment. Either he needed help or someone was asking him for help. He could of been at aid of someone else or looking for some himself.
The moon can actually tell us a lot about the current situation, in a crazy deep way. To me this one is very important.
So leo moon in the 6th house could explain that maybe he was trying to have fun and medicate himself? Maybe he wanted to be seen in a good light, could stem from anxiety, perfectionism, wanting validation. Medicating was his way of getting his nerves under control and to get him to feel how he wanted to feel in that moment. He was seeking some attention/affection/admiration, maybe even just needed someone to acknowledge everything he's done. It's like sometimes all you need is to hear is that you're doing well, or some words of encouragement. Some people don't get enough reassurance, so it makes them feel somewhat insecure and unstable. He could of also wanted some kind of feedback, advice, someone who can solve a problem he had.
Sun opposite asc:
Maybe he could of been somewhat egotistical, swinging between wanting to be self-assured, bold, presentable, to needing others to ground him, validate him, soothe him. Maybe at some points he wanted to be alone but then he suddenly wanted company and to socialize. This may be a very important point in the chart bc the sun is exactly opposing the asc both at 22° so that confirms that this is a significant aspect. He could have been having trouble being perceived, he felt at odds/disconnected with his appearance vs. center core self. He could of felt somewhat chaotic or unorganized.
I'm curious who this friend was that he went to go see and if they can confirm that they were possibly doing dr*gs bc that's what this chart seems like to me. From what we know about this case, there is no information about the friend and who he went to meet that night. No follow up about that person or anything. The police must know something we don't, they don't wanna reveal all the information yet or maybe in the process of getting it.
Venus opposite asc:
Maybe he was unaware or not in control of how he was being perceived. Bc venus is the ruler of libra which is our partnerships and relationships, aspecting the ascendant would be the way we show up for ourselves and others in a presentable, respectful, thoughtful, pleasing way. With venus opp asc maybe he was getting somewhat sloppy and losing his "grace" if that's the right word. Basically he was just becoming someone who was unpleasant to be around or he would swing between self interested, selfish to trying to please others. Since venus is in the 6th house maybe he wanted to seem normal and not intoxicated.
Jupiter in the 3rd conjunct uranus:
It's possible he's a short distance away/nearby. Something very unexpected happened.
UPDATE:
This whole post was unfinished bc at the time (before we knew what happened to yohanes) my mind wasn't super clear and I was unable to read these charts, but we now have an update so I'll finish up the rest of the details later.
They say his death was consistent with murder/suicide.
I remember telling someone in the forensic astrology group on fb (link to that below) that it couldn't have been a suicide bc he had so much going for him with his new job at netflix and his accomplishments, but at the end of the day those things aren't as important as who we are with out those things. It doesn't matter how "good" someone has it, there's more to life than what the public sees or what we do to stay afloat/survival.
RIP YOHANES KIDANE
I'm so sorry this happened to you..
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Stockton Rush's natal chart
& Forensic astrology reading
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So for me, it's still not clear what happened on that submarine. I'm curious what was going on with stockton rush, since he was the pilot at the time.
Let's take a look at his natal chart and the day of death. If you wanna see my interpretation of what happened in general that day, check out my most recent posts.
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Stockton rush is the outter wheel and day of, is the inner wheel.
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His natal chart above, no time of birth.
What's crazy is the ascendant was on his north node, this would of made him basically "more visible, famous, relevant" in the people's eyes, which it did but he would of loved that tbh. He was super passionate about what he does and he did mention in a oceangate introduction video about wanting to get people more engaged and the media was a way to do that.
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Day of chart above, time starting from lost connection of the submarine.
I think with his north node conjunct venus, asc, mars, it put his marsian/venusian traits out in the open for everyone to see. His mission/goals for oceangate was something now everyone is suddenly interested in and tbh he prob created the new wave of interest that will be what's to come in new and improved submersibles for the future. Unfortunately people are gonna piggy back from his ideas and you know the rest.. but if it's for the good of us all I guess he did do something positive and helped other learn from his mistake.
Mars=Bold, aggressive, impulsive, risky behavior, passionate, selfish.
Venus=Money, material things, high quality things/experiences.
He wanted the submarine to feel nice, look nice, be aesthetically pleasing in every way, so his focus was a lot on what it would feel like as a random passanger to sit inside and have that titanic tour experience. Venus is about, smell, feel, quality, looks, prob even efficient function too. Since venus is also a ruler of libra there was a level of wanting to make things accessible and in a way it's balanced to everyone.
Natal moon/saturn transitting into the 7th house:
Possibly that his comfort zone was not what he wanted. Maybe he could of been very attached to a certain way of doing things but unfortunately he realizes that he had to compromise some things. He had the right intentions, he wasn't trying to just break the rules and disregard the life/safety of others. Atleast he didn't do that knowingly. He was learning how to be more thoughtful of others and their concerns. He could of also been attached to his own ways, and being weighed down by demands of others.
Healing is a process
Natal jupiter transiting into the 8th house:
Wow... I got the goosebumps with this transit right here
It's basically describing the nature in which he passed away. Traveling/exploring to a far, unfamiliar distance. Jupiter is a teacher in a way, it provides us with new experiences, curiosity, chances to learn from our past, to become wiser people. It also describes far away/foreign place/distances, unlike it's sister sign gemini which represents short distances. It could describe a prolonged death, feeling/being aware of everything deeply. I don't trust anyone who says "oh they had a 100% painless death." We are living breathing humans who hurt even by a tiny cough or scratch, so you're telling me someone didn't even have time to panick about what was about to happen? Of course they felt something. I feel like they had enough time to know their fate, if they ended up making it alive I bet they would of had a crazy ass story to tell..
Jupiter in the 8th house is said to give individuals a long life, so that's what makes me think it wasn't as quick as everyone said.
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You would think that the 8th house is overused in astrology as the "scary house of death" I heard some astrologers say things like that and they call it "doom astrology" where people focus on the most negative or dramatic sides of astrology but, tbh the 8th house is plain and simple. It is what is is and it def represents death in all the charts that I've seen so far, whether saturn is in the 8th, on the sun, etc, it gives us a picture of what way the 8th house played out. And no it doesn't always mean death. But in this case it does. You have to look at everything involved.
His natal sun/mc transiting in the 9th house:
He was definitely trying to perfect his craft at this time, sun and mc are the most "visible" planets to the public along with North node. So maybe this could explain what we all are finding out about him now and his own exploration of life itself. He had the intention to learn for the time being, he was focused on being well informed, even if that means he's the 1st one to risk his life doing so. Bc the 9th house is sometimes a lonely house imo. They don't ask for help, they don't often look to others for guidance, they don't, not feel pain in the process of figuring these things out, they find out everything by their own experiences. I'm sure he didn't expect to pass away so maybe he thought something else was going on with the titan sub and not that it was in the verge of imploding.
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Natal chart 👈 👉 day of chart, transit synastry.
Natal mercury conjunct transit neptune:
He was extremely sensitive, he could feel, hear every single thing that happened, good or bad.. and he felt it deeply. I feel like neptune mercury transits could also make you more idealistic than usual, not focusing on the the little practical details. He was feeling creative at this time.
Natal jupiter conjunct transit saturn:
I wish I knew what house he had jupiter in bc that would make this so much more accurate but,
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Day of chart planet houses, above.
Saturn is in the 7th house, maybe he felt somewhat trapped in his relationships with people and not only that but in his creative endeavers and interests, with saturn there restricting him. Jupiter wants to expand is arms, legs, mind to as much as it possibly can bc it's all about freedom, expansion, knowledge. You can't obtain knowledge being in the same small square box with no new information/feedback, space to experience. Jupiter on saturn could feel very limiting for someone who values those things.
Maybe he felt like people were telling him what he could and couldn't do but he wanted to find that out and verify it for himself, that's how you truly learn something deeply.
Mercury square sun:
He was kind of out of it mentally imo, he was stretching himself out too thin. Maybe a lot of things needed his attention but things just didn't come out clearly enough. He was making lots of little mistakes that possibly triggered his ego, I had the same transit since I'm a pisces mercury, at the beginning of gemini season. Like my mind, brain, hands were clumsy and not doing what I wanted them to do, dropping/tripping on things and it was obvious the little mistakes I made if I was in anyone's visibility. My thoughts were everywhere pretty much
Natal pluto opposition transit saturn:
So his pluto was transiting into the 2nd house.
I feel like stockton wanted to find security in a way, he wanted to understand something in depth but also it could of been a lot about money. I think in his mind his motivation was to create something so helpful/useful that he just knew it would ultimately be making him a lot of money and he would be the 1st person who lead/created this opportunity for everyone. He wanted to be stable, reliable, financially well off.
I heard from people who knew him that he wanted to be as successful and as influential as elon musk or Jeff bezos but for underwater expeditions.. unfortunately, he will never get to do that. This placement describes this exactly
He prob also felt pressure from restrictions of what you can and can't do with the "submarine community" (if that's what it's called idk), such as their standards and requirements to be certified to dive with tourists. It's like he felt he couldn't do what he wanted to do, he couldn't fulfill his dream. That would lead to frustration and powerlessness.
I just realized I have this transit too, my natal pluto is transitting in the 2nd house and it's been there for months now.. it's a time your finances probably aren't doing so well, it messes with your security, confidence and everything you thought you knew before. For ex I was secure in my ability to predict things but ever since this transit, it's like slowly everything I learned started deteriorating along with my confidence. Once you lose confidence in yourself/abilities, it's as if everything else gets lost with it.
His natal Saturn opposite transit venus:
Venus was in the 12th house.
Things weren't going according to plan, it's like you think you do everything right, going back fixing things and only for it to continue malfunctioning.
Venus would be the submarine in my eyes bc it was pretty much a luxury experience, and it had to do with money, the money he spent on it to look/function the way it does and the 12th house is obviously a water vehicle. If it was in the 3rd house then that would be a car.
I feel like his intention to create a easy, simple, comforting submarine experience wasn't working out like he thought. He planned everything, he worked hard on it, he even did his best to limit his own far fetched ideas so that this could actually work out well but that didn't work either. So he tried everything, from being more responsible, being miserly, being less idealistic and trying to be more practical/functional.
I remember him saying that most submarines now have lots of controls and bulk, he wanted his sub to be simple and easy to control. All the titan submarine had was one single button, 3 sonar/monitor screens and a control. This was not the most high quality of all the submarines nor was it any where near the best, it was just a real prototype of what he hoped to make of one. He was literally trying to test things out 1st hand, something that's probably never been done before. Unfortunately others didn't know that tho.
Another thing that came in mind here since venus is about material things/money, with it opposing saturn I wonder if he was trying to save money but if must of came out in a reckless way bc opposition is something that's out of our control. So you do one thing but then do the complete opposite too if there's some trigger. What's interesting is I feel like everyone was right about how he was trying to cut the costs of the materials by a lot... in a way yes, it's more affordable but also cheaper in quality, prone to breakage. He knew what he was sacrificing, I don't get why he was so willing to risk his life in that way..
This one is a stretch but maybe he was trying to make it seem as if everything was fine when it wasn't. He knew how serious this was but when you're in the company of people who paid you well and are expecting a professional, competent pilot/safe experience overall. You don't wanna alarm anyone.. but who knows
Natal saturn opposite mars in the 12th house:
So I wonder if this was the 1st time in a while that the submarine went as deep as it did bc it seems like there must of been sudden complications. Things would work out according to plan but then your efforts would be blocked/restricted out of no where.
I had this transit once, mars was opposing my natal saturn and oof. It was bad, I came up with the flu all of sudden just a week before an important event.. I thought I wouldn't make it. If anyone's ever had the flu it literally feels like death and people do die from it. You can barely move, you feel sickly, it makes you (or just me) insecure bc you can't take action or do anything, not even medicine helps. I like to constantly do things to keep myself busy but during this transit I wasn't able to do any of that.. I literally could only lay in bed, couldn't eat, could barely get up.. especially during a time where I was preparing to do something a week ahead, I felt the pressure + excited about it at 1st but then this came from no where and knocked me off my feet.. it was very frustrating
yeah so imagine how this transit showed up for stockton..you're in the middle of the ocean and you suddenly get trapped or you have some issue. The way it played out for him was, once you're that deep in the water, nothing can save you, you're really stuck, stuck. Idk if the controls gave out or the whole vessel itself stopped working, but it looks like they felt as if they were in a prison, small confined, suffocating space. Couldn't move. It makes me feel like this wasn't meant to happen, it was just the wrong place/time. And everyone says they felt no pain but idk about that👀
No where near finished with this but I'll be taking a break and adding more info to this as I go.. hope you enjoyed what's up so far and please leave a like if you wanna see more forensic astrology posts like this.
RIP Mr Stockton Rush.
I'm sorry..
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5 yo Prince mcree missing, now found.
NEW UPDATES + SUSPECTS CHARGED
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So Prince Mcree is from Milwaukee, just 5 years old the same age as my toddler and to hear this news yesterday was a bit shocking. So here I am trying to investigate this case a little further through astrology.
What we know
He was last seen by his mother at home around 9am that day and 4 hours later his dad would wake up from his nap to see Prince Mcree was no where to be found. This would be the time he was officially reported missing, at 1pm. On Thursday, the next day Prince was found deceased in a dumpster 3 minutes away from where he was last seen, 2 suspects have been identified. We still won't know if these suspects will be charged, nor do we have any official cause/reason of death besides "blunt force trauma" so we will have to wait.
Blunt force trauma is basically visible bruising on the body, which is non penetrating, so no puncture wounds. It could be anything from being hit by a large object or something of that nature that leaves bruises/bleeding under the skin.
For more info here's a link to the cities news report 👇
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I'll go through his charts and try to explain what I see, hopefully we can all get a better understanding of what happened between the 4 hours he was missing and the possible 3 minute drive or 21 minute walk to where he was found.
9AM last seen by his mom/chart:
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So at 9am, what I think was happening at this time was possibly not really paying attention to details. Maybe they were being oblivious to what was happening around them (parents) they weren't really keeping an eye on Prince. More like they saw him but nothing deeper than that. I'll explain more below.
Pisces moon in the 4th house:
So in criminal astrology the planet that we look to during a missing child case, the moon. The moon was in Pisces in the 4th that tells me maybe this was a family that possibly lacked boundaries or critical thinking. It was more like they passively let the child do what he does with out being concerned or even being aware of the possible danger. At least from this time from of 9am that day, can't speak on his whole childhood. But with the 4th house here, this kinda tells me this was deeply rooted, so maybe this was something they've always done. As parents they may have been undisciplined, escapist, ignoring problems, everything/everyone was just kinda free to do what they wanted. They may have been on drugs or often were just not clear headed, they were emotionally changeable, unstable. This transit overall, would mean there were no boundaries, no strict supervision, distracted/escaping reality.
Bc honestly to go to sleep knowing you have a 5 year old who can possibly escape or be in harms way says a lot to me. I know accidents happen and it could even happen to me so that's why I'm so hyper aware of what to do when I'm too tired to be a parent and etc. I will make sure my kiddo is with me at all times or with someone I trust no matter what. That should be your main priority is keeping your child safe bc they can't protect themselves that's our responsibility. So that leads me to believe maybe these parents, more so that father was just oblivious and his kid wasn't the main priority or concern.
Just realized this but not only is moon in the 4th house but so is Neptune, both planets are in Pisces only emphasizing more on what I was saying above. These parents were definitely neglectful, maybe not intentionally but they just weren't responsible, missing in action, not present enough, possibly there were drugs being done often. The overall environment was very unhealthy.
Scorpio sun, mercury, mars conjunct in the 12th house:
Thankfully the sun is here able to shine a light on everything that was happening and the fact that Princes body was located so quickly, with these 3 placements I'm sure will have a full confession and picture of what happened that day he went missing.
But with everything being in the 12th house, that tells me whoever was involved was trying to be very secretive, shady, hidden. Maybe others who were in the home were aware that the parents weren't fully keeping an eye on their kid/sleeping while Prince was awake, so they were maliciously taking note of thata and prob planned ahead for what was to happen.
Mercury conjunct mars, can be very straight forward, sharp with their words, impulsive, combative, aggressive even. Unfortunately they would also be smart to if this aspect is explaining a perpetrator. Bc mercury being ruled by Gemini one of the most intellectual signs and virgo the one with keen attention to details aspecting mars would make these people quick on their feet to think and act. They may have also had a temper that was hard to control, visibly they could be childish by nature. They would not be mature or composed is what I mean
The 12th house being in all 3 planets tells me something really strange was happening at around 9am, it's someone was trying to be unsuspicious and almost as if they weren't there. The Scorpio here is what leads me to believe this wasn't a good thing, it gives this a grim theme.
Moon 4H opposite Venus in the 10H:
So maybe this was a common theme where they didn't raise Prince to have boundaries or even to know when he was in danger. He was possibly a happy go lucky kid, who always wanted attention/affection/care but he didn't always get that. It could of been that his parents were very emotionally distant/cold with moon opp Venus. They may also have been having financial difficulties so Prince was often bored imo, so if anything happened that day, I feel like Prince would have just been happy to be with anyone who paid him attention since he did t get much of that from his family.
If the moon was conjunct venus then I feel like emotional needs would be well received and the environment would be comfortable and pleasing in the home. Basically everyone's needs would be met, there wouldnt be an tension, unkindness, bitterness, lack. So in the opposition we have a unpleasing environment, it's a mess at home, there's no comfortable place to sleep, play, relax etc. Maybe Prince saw the 2 suspects as authority figures (Venus in the 10th) and decided he should listen to them since no one else was around to guide him or protect him. He could of been a very trusting kid unfortunately, based on how he was raised and what the moon in the 4th is telling us. With the opposition here things happened impulsively with no ability to control what's happening or be in control of ourselves. For now let's look into the 1pm chart when he was reported missing.
1PM reported missing by his dad/chart:
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Moon + neptune in the 2nd:
Interested bc now the moon and neptune has moved into the 2nd house, 4 hours later from the last time his mom seen him. Maybe someone felt as if Prince was their possession, as if they owned him or maybe they just felt like they needed to stop him from demanding help, screaming, making noise. Idk why bc the 2nd house is our possessions, our valuables/what we value, our needs/wants, security. So basically what I'm getting is that they wanted to take that away from him, they wanted to be in control who ever is responsible for this. They took his life, they were so angry, they didn't want prince to have a voice. Maybe they even gave him drugs with moon opposing neptune here. I'm really hoping it wasn't a sexual crime but that could be possible. I'm wondering if they were bored (the 2 suspects) and decided that Prince would be something to keep them entertained, to mess with him and have fun while doing it. Probably scaring him, giving him drugs, testing his reactions to things.
I posted this 2 days before we knew exactly what happened and it gave me the chills rereading that.
Here's the most recent updates as of today, 10/30/2023.
2 suspects officially charged and confessed to what they did to Prince.
Link to all details of the case👇
Moon + neptune opposing Venus in the 8th:
Now knowing what we know about this case, moon opposing Venus especially in the 2nd and 8th houses shows me that this case doesn't just apply to the victim but to the whole circumstance/event/people surrounding them. Transits are general and not personal, so when looking at a crime chart, it's a good idea to make sure your looking outside the box and not just focusing in on 1 person/victim. Bc it can reveal more than you'd ever believe if you look at it in the right way.
Imo moon in the 2H opp Venus in the 8th tells me there was a home that was prob not financially well off, you know they were making things work but it may not have been the best situation for everyone involved. They (prince and family) were living in a home with other random people whom they shared the basement with. The 2nd house is our values/valuables, money, security, spending. Imo the 2nd house is a miserly and will not waste money or overspend. 2nd house wants to find ways to save money, so it's more of a cautious spender. 8th house is our shared resources, joint efforts, money related, our debt. So maybe the family was in a situation that wasn't exactly ideal, sharing a house with your little one with random suspicious men in the same home. Yeah no mother would want that but in today's times, everything's so expensive so we have to do our best.
Not only does this aspect speak on the living situation but also the parenting on both sides as well, Prince was neglected and often ignored. Maybe it wasn't intentional I don't wanna blame the family bc I don't know many details about them. But in the case of the suspects they def were failed by their family/parents. To raise a 15 year old who has a urge to kill people? Like wtf was going on in that house. Yeah so this moon opp venus speaks on that, a deeply rooted environment where there was no love, good financial means, both of these family were struggling financially bc you wouldnt rent a room in your home with out needing and princes family obviously needed a cheaper place to live.
As for moon conjunct neptune and opposing Venus, maybe Prince was too trusting and all he can understand is what he sees, feels, hears, for his age. He doesn't know when someone has malicious intentions unless they harm him, he wouldn't understand if someone was plotting on him the way a grown adult would. He was somewhat day dreamy, not super grounded in reality and I wouldn't expect a 5 year old to be. It's normal for a kid to want to see magic, trust others, see the good in all things, this was very unexpected for him.
So hopefully that explains things and it's easy to understand for anyone who got this far.
MAY YOU REST IN PEACE PRINCE MCCREE
I'm so sorry this happened to you, I don't know a lot about you but you seemed so sweet and happy.
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*CASE SOLVED*
Update at the bottom
Angus cloud passes away July 31st, 2023.
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Unfortunately and unexpectedly, we have found out that this man was unresponsive at around 11:30 am today from a possible overdose. It was just a week after his father had also passed. There are reports that he had been struggling with mental health and suicidal thoughts recently.
I'm curious what happened and what astrological events could have triggered this, so let's take a look at his natal + day of chart. Hopefully it can give us some more insight into what exactly was going on with angus leading up to his death. I wasn't a huge fan or anything but for some reason this tragic event interested me and so here I am following my instincts. I didn't even know anything like this was going on with him so tbh I was shocked to hear about this.. enough about that though let's get into this reading.
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First chart is Angus clouds and the chart below that is the day of death chart. For the 2nd photo, in the 'list of aspects section' we have todays transits this side👈 Angus natal this side👉.
We don't have a time of birth for Angus so we will ignore whatever is aspecting his MC, NN, Asc. This also makes this chart reading a little less specific since I have limited information. But we will do what we can.
Sun transit opposing Angus natal moon, uranus, neptune:
This tells me that he was feeling somewhat exposed, uncomfortable, reminded of something from his past with the sun opposing the moon. Every time I have a transit from sun-moon it is rough, I must say. It's like you feel embarrassed, ashamed, too visible.. it's as if someone tore down your home and all that was left is you standing their in what used to be your privacy/safe space. Your ego is somewhat hit with this sun transit and the moon is our deep inner, habitual self.
It could be also straight forward and be describing his relationship with his father (sun) and the memories that it's bringing up (moon), since his father passed.
His natal uranus is transiting into the 5th house, to me the 5th house represents our childhood, who we were as children, our inner child/creativity, what we do for fun and much more than that which you can look up in the link below.
But this could explain that angus fathers death really shocked him and came out of no where. This could explain that an unexpected shift of events caused him to go back to his past, childhood, the family and their pasts. At the time of his death he had been staying at his childhood home trying to recover from his dad's passing so, you can probably imagine all the memories that come with being back where you 1st started in your old neighborhood, your old bedroom, every item that was left over from your past. Such as, old toys, old personal items/notebooks/clothing/treasured things, his father's belongings and what he left behind in this world. You start to see the world very differently when someone you were really close too, who you have so many memories with, who you hugged, loved, and spoke to all of a sudden is just gone forever. Thankfully I don't know that feeling yet but just imagining it is brutal. So that's what I think the 5th house could be relating to in this situation. It was an event that causes him to think/face something unexpected from his past.
Sun opposite neptune, he was struggling bad with this transit to the point where he was unable to see things clearly. He may have been doing a lot of drugs to cope with this, addictions, confusion, lack of boundaries, blurred lines bubbling up. This transit in general would describe someone who's confused or unclear about their own identity. As if they don't fully understand who they are as a person or that they even exsist sometimes. They don't have a strong sense of self, just lost and kinda isolated. Maybe his dad was a strong figure in his life who provided him some kind of stability and was a grounding presence in his life.. so this situation made him feel as if he lost that. Also I think that this transit could describe someone being unaware of their ego self, so maybe angus was being a bit reckless and making bad decisions.. he wasn't in his right mind and if he was in a better space he wouldn't have wanted this outcome. It was as if his triggers were coming out and he couldn't control them, something triggered him to do drugs, something triggered him to regress back to an unhealthy version of himself.
I didn't find any information about his father's cause of death but will update when I do
Chiron transit square natal sun:
I think maybe he had been feeling like he wasn't doing enough to put himself our there and fulfill his potential. He was ambitious but for some reason something was getting in the way, making him feel weak, discouraged, sad.
Natal saturn transiting into the 8th house:
This tells me his process of death may have been slow and over time..he may have also became intoxicated to the point of paralysis in a way. It's like his body just stopped, he couldn't move his arms, legs, nothing, as if he was trapped in his own body. I'm curious what he overdosed on but we will have to wait until the autopsy results come back if they ever do.
Natal pluto transitting into the 3rd house:
This one is big on being known for a period of time when ones siblings could potentially pass away.
Everyone was saying how deeply he was impacted by his father's passing and their astrology is definitely showing that too.
Transit moon opposing Angus natal sun:
Like my other interpretation of sun opp moon above, this aspect will have the same meaning. I feel like he didn't want to be reminded of his past. Maybe he was feeling hostile with his other family members or it's possible that he had some kind of guilt of something to do with his family. I wonder if tensions were high around the home. I'm getting the sense that it was also something more than just his father's passing that was causing him pain.
So I went to his IG to find out a little more info about him bc honestly I know nothing. Well I found this video he posted on his page, in the link below and it's a song by someone speaking about the people they lost in their life and how they said and did things to them that made them feel selfish and regretful. If you listen to the song it'll explain it better but that was just the gist of it.
That's crazy to me.. he def felt that way about his own dad, it was posted the same day he made another IG post dedicated to him saying "miss u breh"
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North node transit square natal moon:
You know what's interesting to me is the moon in astrology is deeper than just our emotions and comfort zone. It is our habits that we have learned from childhood, it's how we were raised, it shows who someone is at their core. Their habits, their manners, their reactions, the way they show up in the world and interact with others. Heavily moon dominant people will have very distinct personalities and it's a similar thing with venus too just in different ways
What I'm getting from this aspect is that angus probably felt a little alienated in a way, from what I know, seen and heard of about his character was that he always spoke his mind no matter how blunt it was. I remember a video going around of the time euphoria was really popular and I guess fans were going crazy about him and he just told them they shouldn't be so invested in celebrities and focus on their own life. I couldnt find the video, but it was something like that, and my 1st impression was that he was a little rude/judgy for that but nothing too crazy. I guess based on his personality maybe he felt too real for the world, like he didn't put on a front like everyone else does in his industry especially.
It would he easy to feel like an outsider around people like that. The moon is our roots and the opposite from that would be saturn which is who we are when we refine ourselves and become more responsible and mature. Maybe he felt that he was unrefined and not responsible, he just didn't have that same "home" training that it seemed like his peers had. He was different forsure, I was watching some interviews of his, like on the red carpet and the way he spoke to the people interviewing him was just wow, a very unfiltered person he was. I say all this just to emphasize the way that he felt so different from others, moon-NN would be that the moon person feels too raw for the world, too honest to be relatable to everyone else. To fit in you would have to stay on top of every trend and try to be someone others can familiarize themselves with, if you don't do that you are somewhat of an outcast. Maybe he felt this way, he was just too far gone to fix his reputation.
Another thing that happens at his age is we start to become more conscious and mentally developed..personally I know that after 25-26 I was realizing my place in the world, how my actions affected others. Bc before that age you are just a reckless/thoughtless/impulsive teen in a way with an under developed frontal lobe. Hope that makes sense. I can definitely see that reality hitting him.. especially when you are trying to succeed but it seems like no one relates to you and you're not as interesting as you may of once thought.
AS transit square natal sun:
Maybe he was unhappy with the impression people had of him, someone was saying that his character in euphoria is not far from who he actually is irl. So maybe he was feeling too exposed with the sun here and he was kind of a private person who didn't want people to know his personal things.
Neptune conjunct his natal jupiter:
I feel like he was definitely mixing different drugs up with this aspect. Neptune-jupiter aspects are messy, too much going on at once bc both of those planets are about expansion/versatility in different ways. Neptune would be drugs, addictions, confusion, jupiter would be magnifying all those qualities and causing someone to overdo those things. This is common aspect for infections too imo or even foreign substances in however that applies.
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Above are the house transits at the time he was reported unresponsive, 11:30am.
Jupiter conjunct uranus in the 8th:
Whatever it was he was doing caused a shock to his system, like a foreign substance or maybe just an overload of it caused his body to do things that didn't make sense. I wish I knew what kind of drugs he was taking but at this time all I know is that he may have overdosed on prescription drugs.
**UPDATE CAUSE OF DEATH CONFIRMED**
09/21/23:
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I was curious what could happen to our bodies if we take things like fentanyl and meth at the same time so here's an article I found if you're curious too. Apparently one of them is an upper (high energy drug) while the other is a downer (calming drug) and people often mix uppers with downers to achieve the perfect high. It can send the body mixed signals/confuse the brain, leading to overdose.
So most of this post was written before we had a confirmed cause of death, but as I'm reading it all, it's pretty accurate. Crazy, I had this post hidden bc I was unsure of my own interpretations, and I was feeling a bit unfocused. But thankfully now we have closure on this unfortunate situation.
For now this is what I have and as always, expect to see more updates on this post when I have more information so please check back for those. Thank you for reading if you've gotten this far 🙏
NOTE TO SELF: ADD FULL 'DAY OF' TRANSITS/HOUSES. Need to know what houses everything was in at the time of death to get a fuller picture.
RIP ANGUS CLOUD. You are now in a better place away from all your troubles. I hope you are happy to be free of that burden..
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Aaron Charles Carter 🦋
The forensic astrology chart reading
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So there's not too many details about what happened to Aaron carter so I'm pulling up the chart of the day of his passing to see what it tells us.
I'm sure everyone knows this information already but in case you don't-
On Nov 5th, 2022, Aaron was found deceased in his bathtub. The last known contact from him was at 2am Friday night after the police showed up at his door for a welfare check. People are saying he may have overdosed in the bathtub or that he fell asleep. Days before this he was known to be huffing again by his ex fiance.. she was extremely worried something like this would happen to him since she wasn't able to be there with him at his home at the time of his death. That night early Friday, she was in contact with his house keeper who told her he was fine and was just eating snacks.. I'm sure she expressed her concern to the house keeper too, she was telling everyone she was afraid he would die. And to her surprise, after having no contact with him all of Friday, he was pronounced dead at the scene on Saturday at around 11am.
So let's check the charts👇
Aaron's birth chart for reference below + 2am chart
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Transit aspects to natal
(Pictured at the end of this interpretation)
His natal mars + pluto conjunct the sun/mercury/venus:
It's possible that around this time, aaron was feeling defensive against everyone who came in contact with him, melanie, his house keeper, the police, making impulsive assumptions about their intentions. He was very guarded at this time, wanting to be in control of himself, his belongings, territory, and privacy. He possibly didn't want anyone to know that he was either on a bender or doing drugs, that could definitely have been the case bc he mentioned in his lives that he was aware that a lot of his personal life/buisness was "being shared online everywhere by fake media outlets" were his exact words. He didn't want anyone to know anything about him at this moment, not his location, not his plans, not his possessions or whatever it was he was indulging in (venus).
His natal north node conjunct jupiter/moon/neptune:
To me I see this aspect as Aarons life serving as a lesson, or even sparking a much needed conversation on social media about the effects of addiction and the unhealthy amounts of neptunian things we do (eat, drink, drugs, escapism, codependency etc) and being too attached to our comfort zones and the limitations we placed on ourselves bc of it. Our comfort zones, while yes we all enjoy it, can be doing so much more damage than we realize. We need to find new ways to nurture ourselves and comfort ourselves when all else fails, it's not an easy thing to do that's why it's easier to continue on in our comfort zone. But feeling good, constant pleasure seeking is the real catfish, pain hurts yes but it gives us deeper experiences, tests our endurance/focus/mind. It's doesn't feel good but it is, very much. We have to train ourselves to stop always associating "good feelings" with good things.
We have to learn to balance out pleasure and pain.
His natal mars + pluto squaring saturn:
To me this could explain that he had no control over his body in some way, possibly he felt trapped, paralyzed, inactive, not in control. He may have felt weak, inadequate, unattractive, unable to "get it up" if you know what I mean.
(Since mars also represents our sexual desires/stamina.)
Maybe bullying and malicious characters around him were deeply affecting his self esteem at this time.. it could of been something he was constantly thinking of and was frustrated he couldn't do anything about it. Maybe he felt that society saw him as a weak, unmasculine, vulnerable, lacking dominance/direction/control, easy to push around-type of person. Tbh his recent appearances on no jumper could explain that. This situation as well as many others could of been a trigger to what caused drug abuse, sometimes when you feel like you have no healthy outlet to express yourself, such as having no hope or no other option, you end up self sabotaging. There was a major mood swing, anger, trigger, deep pain (mars/pluto)
Mars, pluto, and saturn are all malefic planets having a more negative and heavy impact. So when these planets harshly aspect (square, opposite) the natal chart, it basically can make a bad situation worse for lack of better words. So something along those lines, if you can get an idea of what I mean.
His natal mars + pluto opposing uranus:
Mars-uranus
He may have been feeling under attack, unexpectedly attacked by others, so his anger and frustration was unpredictable, sudden outbursts. He may have been trying very hard to defend himself against being attacked, could of left a very sour taste in others mouths.
He also was planning on leaving to visit his mother in Florida a few days before this incident but was blocked by melanie who called the police and accused him of using drugs while driving. It basically got in the way of his plans and he ended up being stuck at home for whatever reason at this time, instead of heading to his mother's like he planned to already.
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Also with mars-pluto-saturn square, I feel like everything he tried/wanted to do was being blocked by something or someone since this transit 1st started, so not just the days leading up to this, was it an issue he had.
Mars-pluto, is our passion, self assertion, drive, motivation, control, power. All of those things were difficult for him, bc of other people getting in the way, constant run ins with the police, public, even our own physical limitations.
For example I remember having the mars transit square my saturn and I felt completely powerless bc I had come down with the flu, medicine didn't work, literally couldn't do anything but lay there in pain. It sucked bc it was during a time that I had plans the week of and it just ruined everything for me, didn't have the energy, mental, physical health I needed. If you ever had the flu, then you'll know what I'm talking about. To give you an example that's similar to affects of mars-saturn transits, it just impacts your vitality (mars energy).
It's crazy that if everyone knew he was using drugs, including the police, I mean there is evidence of this.. the erratic driving, the slurred speech in his videos, and even interviews/podcast he previously did...he still wasn't sent to jail.
(Tweets about that incident posted below...)
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Mars-pluto
He wanted to keep his actions to himself, he tried very hard to keep everything hidden and under his control. That was the exact opposite of what happened to him tho, it seemed as if everyone already knew of his shenanigans and motives, it was all out in the open...
That's the kind of push and pull that can come from oppositions.
I feel like Aaron carter had a way of getting himself out of everything, it's like a survival thing when you're feeling so low that you don't care about the rules, limitations put upon you, authority of anyone else, you want to do what YOU want to do and anyone who tries to challenge you on that will not succeed. At least that's what aaron wanted to happen, but him and melanie were not on good terms at this time. I feel like she actually did want him to be in jail, not just bc she wanted to "save him from drugs" but also bc she was mad at him for whatever was going on between them. In his last few live videos I believe, and I will link them below. He and melanie were arguing back and forth and calling each other names. If you want to see the full live videos I got them from lila chats YouTube account, I recommend watching them if you want to see what aaronn and melanie were saying to eachother.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR4oEBAu/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR4oHtHP/
Contrary to what people believed he was actually a smart person who knew how to be charming and use his charm to get away with things such as his run in with the police and how he was able to get away with no problems. I bet melanie loathed this so much, it's like he was able to get away with everything, he had friends who enabled him, coworkers who enabled him, fans who enabled him. So her revenge in this case was trying to get him in jail but deep down there's still love there obviously so she also knew he desperately needed help. He was resisting all attempts at anyone trying to control him. The reason I say she wasn't just trying to help him is bc she participated in the name calling to and aaron was saying some pretty fucked up things like he doesn't want a "fake, plastic, lip filler, fake person" is what he was saying, if you see his fights that him and Mel had they were not pretty. He would constantly expose her and get her reactions on live video so that's proof if you don't think she had reason to be mad at him.
His natal chiron in the 10th house:
Authority figures, the public knew he was wounded and using drugs. 10th house is what's visible to the public and society.
Chiron transit conjunct natal jupiter:
Transit chiron and jupiter were both in his 4th house
He could have been leaving his home in Lancaster to get away from his pain and whatever was causing him trouble, the media attention, the ability for stalkers to have such easy access to his property and private information. But mostly at this moment he was attempting to visit his mom, since he was home alone. He probably felt lonely, isolated, ostracized, outcasted for his beliefs. His mom and Tampa Florida where he was raised probably would have gave him a sense of familiarity and safety, since it's what he already knew and his mom was obviously someone he leaned on for support. So he could of been traveling to escape his "wounds", discomfort, pain.
His natal saturn/sun/uranus/mercury in the 4th house:
This could describe aaron being placed in the home, not literally placed there but just the location of his body in the home. Imo saturn always rules the body in death charts especially if it's in harsh aspect to the natal.
Like with jolissa fuentes that I identified in one of my previous blogs, her sun was conjunct the transiting saturn in aquarius. She was found in a confined, severely damaged and banged up car, I imagine even if she was alive she couldn't have gotten herself out of the car with all the damage that was done to it. But yes Saturn=confined, restrained, suffocated, right on her sun.
Transiting pluto in his 2nd house:
Possible material losses or money troubles, this is a long-term personal aspect that has to do with values and the way we manage money. I have this aspect happening atm and yeap def struggling with money and how I manage it. This aspect would change the way you see and value money, material things over time.
Mars gemini transit in his 7th house:
Problems with spouse, significant other. He was definitely having problems with melanie and they had been separated for a few days, mars being in the 7th house describes a potentially aggressive, violent, impulsive blow up, altercation. Things were just not going smooth for the both of them there was prob constant bickering, arguments, accusations, disturbing/upsetting things said and done to eachother.
Here's one of those lives, they argued in👇
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Uranus in his 5th house:
He was possibly enjoying the freedom he had somewhat, like he knew he was able to get by and get away, for example with law enforcement bc he was a celebrity. He wasn't doing anything too terrible imo bc he didn't harm anyone or anything like that but he was using drugs so that should of put him in jail. He was having fun with it, impulsively doing the unpredictable, wanting to do things only his way when it comes to what he considers "play time" whether what he does for fun is music, drugs, partying, spending, maybe even had many fans who would do anything for him such as enable his antics and etc.
Uranus=Aquarius 5h=Leo's house
So you can put 2 and 2 together, I hope.
Aaron's natal on the left-transits on the right.
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I haven't even got into the half of what's going on here. Since there's no exact time of death I will have to look through what happened at and after 2am the last time he was seen alive.
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2AM shown above. What was he doing at this time? A timeline-
In criminal astrology the victim is always ruled by the ascendant, so virgo asc would mean aaron is ruled by mercury at this moment.
Mercury being in scorpio in the 3rd house:
To me this is traveling, chatting with neighbors, there's some suspicious things going on... trying to be very private and hidden. Could of been at this time he was communicating with someone or the phone was in his car. 3h is short distances, travel, nearby neighbors, peers. Also I wonder if he was being stalked/watched with mercury being in scorpio or it could of been that he felt like he was and was being paranoid. He could of been very disorganized at this time, trying to do many different things at once, may have been anxious, anxiety ridden.
Moon conjunct neptune transit:
Increased sensitivity but also confusion, able to feel the projections, thoughts/feelings of others to the point where it can make someone physically ill. Mispercieving situations, vulnerable to deception/scandal, paranoia, self-destructive behaviors/habits like drug addiction and eating disorders, may be exposed to infectious diseases, poisons. Hygiene and cleanliness are important now bc immunity may be low. You may be more susceptible to pathogens and the effects of drugs, alcohol and anesthetics.
Source above from astrologyking.com
Moon transit square his natal saturn:
Depressing transit, abandonment issues coming up, emotionally closed off/distant, relationships feel like a burden, when it comes to our emotional needs we feel like they aren't being met no matter how much we try. Feeling restricted.
Moon transit square his natal sun:
Stress, frustration in the home or with woman/family. Overreacting, ego issues related to emotional conflicts. Overall tension and pressure is felt
Moon transit square his natal uranus:
Erratic behavior, extreme impulsivity, emotional instability, doesn't want to be restricted in anyway.
All of these transits aspecting his personal placements together has to be rough
Moon/jupiter in the 7th house:
Moon-7th house,
Could of felt dependent on another person to find security. Maybe he was thinking of things related to that topic, could of been craving someone to be there for him, reflecting on his relationships with others and deciding who is good for him and who isn't. Evaluating relationships in his life.
Jupiter-7th house,
Ease in public relations, legal matters, cooperation, luck in partnerships, joint activities. I feel like Aaron was looking for his other half, he did not feel right being all alone. He did say in a past interview that one of his fears was being alone, he hated that feeling. Maybe he was thinking of finding a new relationship with someone abroad who is different from his past/current relationships that is more suited for him and each other. He could of also had legal matters on his mind and maybe he wanted to discuss these matters with a friend, like getting advice on the custody situations of his son and his sobriety etc.
Like me I have a libra moon and jupiter (libra is ruled by the 7th house) and I've always had this pit in my stomach that makes me feel like I'm missing someone in my life, someone who supports me, compliment me well, like they provide what I lack and vice versa. Such as a relationship where we each bring something to the table that balances me out, sometimes I'm shy and need a support buddy and it would be nice to have someone by your side who you can trust or rely on. This could be somewhat of what aaron was going through? What do you guys think?
Neptune was also in the 7th house,
He could of been deceived/fooled/manipulated, having misunderstandings in partnerships/relationships, was not thinking clearly on what to do in his relationships/legal matters. Unhealthy attachment to people, toxic codependency, being taken advantage of. Idolizing the wrong people, things were not as they appeared, judgment was off.
Mars in the 10th house:
Getting aggressive with authority figures or authority figures being aggressive with him, maybe too many people around this time were causing a disruption, problems for him.
Mars gemini in the 10th for that matter, a lot of people knew what was going on and were aware of what he was doing whether it was his neighbors, peers, the public.
I believe the cops showed up to his door and he yelled for them to go away. Someone must of known something was going on so there was multiple people involved. 10th house describes, the government, law, professionals, men, managers etc.
Now let's move on..
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3 AM, what was he doing at this point?
A Timeline-
So all the 3rd house placements except for venus moved into the 2nd house,
Sun/Mercury in the 2nd house:
This could explain slow reactions, slow responses, intaking food, possibly getting high, smoking, inhaling. Ego somewhat tied to his possessions/money (sun=leo, 2h=taurus) seeking security through what he owns? Maybe even through sex, 2h can represent that. House of sensuality, what you can feel, see, touch, consume, smell.
Venus in the 3rd:
To me this transit would describe aaron valuing communication and connections at this time, his texts to Sonya in the link below literally explain this aspect. He was in the mood to connect and communicate with others, venus is also our love style, sensuality, attraction. He possibly wanted to "sext", flirt, hook up with someone who stimulated his mind. I'm sure she's not the only one who he messaged but I feel like if she wasn't then we would of heard about that by now. But yeah I think he was feeling alone and trying to hit up anyone he could to possibly have a good time with and keep him company. Based on the texts, he wasn't in his right mind/intoxicated..
possibly 1-3am is when they were speaking with each other, bc the moon/jupiter/neptune were all in the 7th house around 2-3 so that tells me he was looking/longing for another person.
If he was using drugs that explains the slurring in text, and neptune being there says he was ideolizing people and maybe seeing them as being closer to him than they actually are. As I explained above under the 2am timeline.
Saturn in the 5th house:
This transit could of been a hard hitting one, happiness, creativity, love, energy would be restricted here. Maybe he felt that everyone in his life was abandoning him bc he was being too needy and depending on others to love, feed, approve of, take responsibility for. Aaron most likely always had someone around him to pick up where he slacked off but to the point where it felt unnatural to be on his own. Being alone made him feel unloved, unlovable, not independent enough, always needing other things even if they aren't people to feel less alone. 1 person can only do so much.
His hair stylist mentioned something about this too, saying that aaron must of seemed to be used to having a big family around him and needed others around him at all times but sometimes you can't always be there. He remembered a time where aaron was getting his teeth fixed and him calling his stylist who he also considered a friend, to come hold his hand but I guess he couldn't be there. And another thing that I came across is check saying that aaron wanted to buy him a plane ticket to come to him on friday I believe, but check said he couldn't make it on friday so they decided on Saturday. Both check and sonya couldn't make it when he asked them to see him, so that's something to be aware of.
If I were aaron I'd probably feel like I wasn't important enough to meet with as soon as possible..esp in a time I felt I really needed someone, it probably triggered some painful feelings in him that he wasn't ready to accept or reflect on, hence the drug usage.
Here's the text he showed from that conversation 👇
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As you can see it looks like he stopped responding after 11:58 pm but I'm having trouble finding out what day that was sent. Was it thursday or friday night? The 'today' in the text is Saturday Nov 5th, 3:59pm. They were also in different timezones so aaron was in Lancaster and check in Florida. So it would of been 9pm Aaron's time when these texts were sent.
What was he doing at 9pm? Let's check the chart.
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This is his last live from Thursday. He would of passed away if my analysis is correct just 7 hours later.
So imo his texts with check was around this time. Sun/merc/venus were in the 5th house so his mood here seemed like he was just trying to have a good time, show off his music, receive love from fans.
Moon in the 10th maybe he was trying to seek comfort and recognition from his fan/support system/family.
10th house represents money, career, recognition, public image. What's interesting is he didn't seem to be using drugs at all here, he seemed pretty sober to me. Not slurring his words or anything. He was live until 10pm
Let's go to 4:36am chart ⏰️
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The ascendant that represents Aaron is now in libra, so he would be ruled by venus here.
Venus 2h opposing uranus 8h:
What's weird to me is venus in the 2nd house would mean that he was valuing something that made him comfortable in this moment, something he was familiar with (taurus doesnt like change or new, prefers familarity) I def see that as indulging in drugs and possibly weed.
Taurus/2nd house also describes the throat area to me so he was either huffing or smoking, drinking.
And let's just say if he was in the bath during this time, so he was in the bath with the jets on, smoking a blunt, possibly huffed just before he went in or all around the same time, that to me is basically him indulging and surrounded by his material comforts. I don't have a jet in my bath so I'm not that fancy but in the context of the 2nd house in venus it's natural home planet, doesn't this scenario make sense?
And then the fact that uranus is in the 8th, clear as day that it's unexpected, shocking situation that took away everything? 8th house is related to money/possessions/debt/death/occult/subconscious, shaking the foundation of something.
I don't wanna be too literal but this means unexpected death, it's that simple imo.
He was indulging in his comforts, it was an obsession of his and a habit (2nd house scorpio Venus)-leading to unexpected death (8th house taurus in uranus). Sun/mercury/venus/uranus/saturn were all squaring each other telling me he was hopeless and stuck. He couldn't speak, he wasn't visible to anyone, no one knew what he was up to, no one expected this. Saturn here acted as a suppressant to eveything that was going on, it was not only harshly aspecting each other transit wise but also to Aaron's personal planets, making it hit harder.
Idk why but maybe he could of been accidentally shocked? He might have touched something or it could have something to do with his nerves. I've heard a few people saying he may have had a seizure and I can see that.. with the aspects to mars-mercury-uranus, definitely.
The link above describes the effects of huffing and seizures
Aaron's natal mars/pluto were opposing uranus in taurus, so the fact that it's in the 8th house, house of death, tells me that something unexpected happened.
What's crazy is I looked up this aspect and it says "unexpected inheritances following someone's death"
I'll leave the link here so you can look up this placement for yourself, so interesting and a little scary how accurate.
This aspect right here (4:36am) could actually be the moment or close to the time of his death, uranus in the 8th house is said to be a common transit in unexpected death of friends or partners etc.
His natal mars/pluto were opposing saturn, sun/mercury/venus all in the 2nd house tell me that all of a sudden his body slowed down and he somewhat was not fully present or quick to respond, in a sedated state. I can imagine from all the drugs he was taking and inhaling, it's like he was conscious but not consciously in control. Half asleep, half awake, high out of his mind. He could faintly hear everything around him for a moment, the bath faucet dripping, the jets going, the water flowing, he could hear/feel all the little sensory things around him. He was probably relaxed at this moment bc of everything being in the 2nd house of taurus. He was quiet, calm, relaxed, still, and then he slipped below the water in his half sleep/wake state. He couldn't really push himself up I don't think bc when you're in that state even if you weren't on drugs and just really tired you would be too weak to fight what's happening and being on drugs it's even worse, like he couldn't fight bc he wasn't coherent enough or reacting quick enough to help himself.
I definitely understand this feeling bc just this evening as I was taking a nap I had woke up as I was falling asleep and for a sec I was dizzy an disoriented, so I can see how if something happened to me during time I could of been very vulnerable.
And if this is all accurate, he would of been in that bathtub for around 30 hours..from 4am Friday morning to 11am Saturday
Isn't it wild what astrology can tell us?? This is why I love it so much.
Mars in the 9th house:
Maybe he was just trying to have fun and try something new/foreign? Could of been a new drug or maybe he took more of something then he usually does.
But also the 9th house is connected to religion and his house keeper is religious, idk if those 2 are connected here but keeping it noted 📝
Moon/jupiter/neptune in the 6th house
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Hmm...found this as I was looking up neptune in the 6th house. Chilling to find that this is what that placement represents isn't it?
If anyone can help me out and share their insights on anything they see differently in these charts I would appreciate it 💕 could always use a 2nd eye.
What's really weird to me is that the charts pretty much align with everything that was going on, everything we've already heard is shown in the chart. Let me know what yall think about this.
His case is still under deferred, I wonder if we will hear of toxicology reports once uranus and mars go direct. We will see. You can check his case details here 👇
Update as of 03/1/23:
Jane carter, aarons mom shares crime scene photos and text messages from aarons phone.
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...May you now rest in peace AC, you were such a beautiful person the good, bad, and ugly sides. Your fans and I loved them all ♡
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I've slowly been getting better at reading crime charts, my 1st real crime chart reading was the one in my pinned tweet for jolissa fuentes. All of that I did on my own with the help of Kristy the criminal astrologer for reference, who's been studying astrology for over 20 years, she's the best one yet that I know of in the forensic astrology game. Check her out on youtube (link below) and check my pinned blog post if you wanna see how accurate my interpretations are.
Thank you all for taking the time to read and that's all I got for right now, but I'll be back to finish the rest of my analysis. Enjoy.
UPDATE 04/22/2023
Autopsy results finally confirmed. The only thing natally and transit wise that stood out to me is the moon was in aries at the time these results were finally confirmed to the public and the moon was in aries when aaron was discovered deceased. Both are very close in degrees. Mars, jupiter, uranus, neptune all now going direct too. So maybe retrograde planets going direct could play a role in when we get closure from crimes like this.
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2 year old Emile still missing
07/21/23 forensic astrology reading
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Emile from France was on a vacation with his grandparents earlier this month, July 8th. What we know is that he was playing in the garden when he suddenly vanished. His grandparents had taken their eyes off of him while preparing for a car ride, so emile went outside during that time. There is still no sign, proof, or clue as to where he is so here is my attempt at seeing what astrology can tell us.
Thankfully, I found the right times and everything needed for this even though it is a case that's not in my native language. Now let's see what we can find out about that day..
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Above is the charts from July 8th, 5:15pm le vernet, france.
Unfortunately I don't have his birthday info which would make this so much more specific but for now. Let's do with what we have.
Moon represents emile here, which can give us actually an incredible amount of detail of what was happening at that moment.
Moon pisces in the 4th house:
That's interesting.. this would be a lot like neptune in the 4th house. Which to me would mean maybe messy home, unclear, idealistic, delusional thinking, too comfortable, no boundaries.
In relation to this case, this could be emiles mindset at the time, he felt that he has all the freedom in the world at this moment. No one to tell him no, no one to worry about or be afraid of, just unaware of the dangers around him.
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Moon conjunct neptune in the 4th:
I feel like this tells me that emile may have not been thinking logically but intuitively, so if they searched that area through the lens/curiosity of emile, they could possibly be closer to finding him. This could mean too that he may have fell into a body of water nearby the home. A well, pool, pond, gutter, sewage pipe around the home.
Mercury cancer conjunct sun in the 8th:
I think while walking around or being curious of his surroundings, he may have hurt himself somewhere where his actually visible, where the sun shines.
Moon trine mercury:
He could of gotten scooped up by a car, that's possible with moon-mercury. Or maybe he's just a short distance away from home.
Mecury trine neptune:
Whatever happened must or been seamless bc of the trines happening to the moon, so it was smooth and easy whatever happened. He could be near by the home but hidden somewhere he could of feel deep into some kind of hole or something nearby.
Moon inconjunct mars:
Whatever happened was quick and very awkward, at the moment he wasn't able to grasp what was happening as well as law enforcement. He would of been confused, one minute things were clear but then lost the next. It's like something malfunctioning is the way we can describe an inconjunction.
Sharp turns, rushed accidents/thinking, impulsive situation/events. I wonder if he possibly wandered into a building/church or something bc of the mars in the 9th house.
What really just sent me chills is that after interpreting that aspect, I looked up his last location on the map, his grandparents home/neighborhood and there is in fact a church near by.
Link below so you can see for yourself , zoom into Englise saint-Matin location.
Idk what this could mean, bc don't you think that those inside of the church would be good natured enough to do the right thing and turn emile in to the police or anything like that? Or is something more sinister going on? There are 2 churches nearby one within a 2 minute walk and the other is 6 minutes. Isn't that crazy how astrology can tell us this much? Like I'm shook rn.
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Venus in the 9th, inconjunct the moon:
Maybe someone saw him as being abandoned at the church.. you know most churches are quiet, secluded areas so I feel like it would be easy to get away with something there. There would be no one around and little to no interference.
This could also show that he may just be near these areas too bc I remember a case of this child named Jose lara who disappeared under similar circumstances. There was a church very nearby his backyard where he was playing, he was later found in the septic tank in the backyard. It was hidden underneath bushes and things so that's why it wasn't the most obvious case. And in his chart there was also 9th house energy, representing the church nearby. I don't see any water around here so idk if Lake or pond is even a possibility.
Video below, with more info about Jose laras case for anyone who is curious about that.
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Not only that but there's also a wine/bar/restaurant right next door to the 1st church called 'Ches les Ringuous'. Someone drunk could of def scooped by and taken him. But I don't want to assume, just throwing out possibilities.
Astrology mapping:
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Looks like venus/mars cross where he was last seen walking down the street by witnesses so that's very interesting..
My intuition is telling me he could be near the mars/venus/mercury line. If anyone sees anything I don't, I'd appreciate any insight you have.
This is what I've got for now and will be adding more info as I finish my research of this case, so pls check back for updates. I hope emile will be found soon..
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4 year old autistic toddler Lucian Munguia, still missing.
Update: FOUND!! 12/30/2022
Linked at the end of this blog
Forensic astrology/date missing chart wheel👇
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When I found out about what happened to this boy I was instantly attached to this case. Bc I also have an autistic toddler and can't imagine how I'd feel if this happened to me... so here is my effort at trying to see what could of happened to this poor baby.
What happened?
I guess the father left lucian and his brother playing at the park while he went to change his daughter's diaper in the car nearby. When he got back lucian was no where to be seen, the last known location of lucian munguia was him alone walking away from the park on cctv. It's assumed that he was exploring and wandering around...
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In criminal astrology the missing person is always ruled by the ascendant and co-ruled by the moon, for children the moon is the main ruler.
So in lucians case the moon was in pisces in the 1st house.. what's crazy to me is that the last seen footage of lucian was him walking alone. He was not taken or anything like that atleast not on the video, he willingly left and wandered off by himself.
The pisces moon here to me represents someone kind of being in a dream like, imaginative, creative state of mind and in the 1st house is literally him being adventurous and bold, alone. Maybe at the time he disappeared, he could of been distracted by something.. it could be that he's been to that park many times before and got bored so he started wandering off. I feel like he was just taking in everything, observing his surroundings, the trees and everything in front of him. Autistic children are not reckless, depending on how severe/not severe... his mom said he does speak and can tell you what he wants. So he def was able to understand things, my toddler is the same way. Autistic children like this are very careful and they will try to beware of possible falls or anything that could hurt them. But accidents do happen
Position of the planets on the date missing:
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Something to note is that the moon was pretty close to transiting into aries, not only that but the ascendant is in Pisces as well as neptune. Moon is conjuncting neptune and close to the ascendant.
Lucian munguia is the moon, the sign of the moon is in Pisces so now we look to neptune since that is the planetary ruler of Pisces. To me this is not a good sign, he could of slipped and fell into a body of water or drugged or got lost. Let's take a look at the houses and aspects tho..
This is just my interpretation, and I'm mostly just brainstorming and leaving myself some "sticky notes" so when I look back at this I have some clues to go off of. If you see anything I don't please lmk.
House placements/asc/aspects:
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Mars in the 3rd house: Could of got hit by a car while traveling. Maybe hit his head.
2nd house in taurus: Sad to say this and I hope I'm wrong but someone, a stranger could have seen him as a person of value, he could of been snatched/possessed. (Animals? Taurus, bull) uranus is also in the 2nd house so unexpected loss or gains? What was valuable to lucian at this time was gathering things to make himself be secure, he was lost in an unknown place so maybe he was trying to find shelter.
8th house in scorpio: Trafficked possibly?
3H + 4H in gemini: neighborhood, siblings.
4th in house gemini, end of the matter: Could be in a car or was hit by a car and placed somewhere else a short distance away. Maybe the surroundings of the location of lucian is in a busy, heavy traffic place, lots of communication/connections around. In a chaotic, messy area.
Something that also comes to my attention is that the dad, who was changing his daughter's diaper couldn't have been gone for long or not keeping his eye on lucian for longer than 5 minutes, unless he was just that neglectful. But if he was gone for just a minute or so then lucian couldn't have gone that far? So he could be either nearby, which I heard they checked everywhere for him so I'm not sure about that.
With moon conjunct neptune maybe he's in the water, maybe he was contaminated in some way? He could of started to feel ill/sick/vulnerable, extra sensitive to his surroundings. Maybe he slipped on something and fell into the water. There is geese around and apparently poop everywhere so he could have slipped on that. At this time lucian would have been very mentally confused and lost, so there could be no logical reasoning for what could of happened.
Another possibility is someone from the party is responsible for him going missing. Maybe multiple people are involved.
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I went to Google maps to see what the area looks like and I came across these comments above.. not a good sign at all, the most recent homeless activity was 4 months ago so that could be a possible danger. I can def see that happening with all the neptune in lucians chart.
Neptune=drugs, gasses, alcohol, delusion, misty, contamination, shady characters, fish, animals.
If this is a possibility then and if homeless people have campsights around the area and know the area well, they would know exactly where to hide someone or keep themselves hidden. Since the end of the matter is in gemini then there is no question that he's somewhere close by, I'm just not sure exactly where.
It's a large park with lots of activities around so he could be hidden somewhere, easily overlooked bc there's a lot going on. There's a Walmart nearby so that tells me this isn't in the middle of nowhere and there's people/cars coming in and out of the area constantly.
There's mixed comments about the conditions of the park, some say it's very clean and others say it's very dirty and run down..
Since the 3rd house + 4th are both in gemini could it be possible that he's in an abandoned car? Or even trail.
Moon conjunct neptune: Deep imagination, defenseless, trying to identify with things he knows or familiar with, having fun exploring.
Neptune conjunct ascendant: He was visibly lost, distant towards others, possibly walking near corners.
Moon conjunct jupiter: He was walking far distances, to an unfamiliar place, big imagination, maybe his mindset at the time was that he could do anything and had unlimited possibilities in that moment. Maybe a large area of land
Moon conjunct ascendant: There was a party going on at the park, where he went missing from.. to me, I could be wrong but the moon conjunct ascendant is lucian alone but it was also obvious to others (strangers) maybe someone with bad intentions could tell that he was lost and alone, young, in need of help.
I put a question mark in my interpretation of this aspect in the screenshot bc I'm not sure what it could mean, there's a lot of conjunctions I'm seeing.
Sun opposite ascendant: He could be out of sight, hidden. Opposite direction from where he was expected to be found.
Sun opposite moon: Found in an unexpected place. The sun could also be the perpetrator, if there is one. So the perpetrator would be represented by the Sun in Virgo.
When there is exact aspects to the victims ruler that's a sign that another person is involved.
Neptune square MC: Public/searchers/law enforcement confused, victim in a hard to reach/hidden area.
Moon square MC: the public/searches/law enforcement will have a hard time finding lucian..lack of support, evidence, uncomfortable place.
Moon sextile pluto: He could be somewhere deep
Location where lucian was last seen + astro chart map:
Here is the location 111 S 18th St, Yakima, WA 98901 if you want to see street view on Google maps, I recommend that to get a better idea of the place.
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Here I have mapped all the possible locations, each one shows the most significant planets imo that I converted from degrees to distance.
The park where he was last seen is right in the middle, the starting point for all the lines.
You can see on the top half, the ascendant line, moon line and neptune line are all super close together. Looks like they are behind buildings? I looked them up, the building closest to the park is a truck stop production area and the building further up is a hotel..those are probably the most important lines
The mars line is also important bc I realized it is right in the 4th house, the end of the matter. Doesn't look like there's much there so idk. There has been reports that there's dangerous people on Yakima Greenway area, gangs, assaults and homeless people.. if a child were to wander off it would be very unsafe place to be.
The pluto line is at a car dealership area.
The MC line is closest to Walmart, it's the white building at the bottom corner by Chalmers rd.
Sun line is in the water.
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I highlighted the direction he was seen walking, it's not exact but it should be close. They said he was heading south east towards the bodies of water, so that would be towards the bottom of this map above. Further down is the Yakima river and another large body of water.
The sun line should be going directly through the Buchanan lake.. I'll be back with more maps and info soon
Update:
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So sad.. he was found underwater, all that was left was his skeleton and that's what they have confirmed to be his remains. Poor baby, it was worrying me so much what could of happened to this sweet boy. I'm so sorry lucian, I'm glad your family and all of us are able to have closure now.
I left up all my interpretations, some of them were off but I did mention he could of slipped under water (in between the sun and venus line is where he was found).
Astrology is amazing. What's interesting as I'm looking at the chart of the day lucians remains were identified, mars gemini 9°15 is now in retrograde closely conjuncting where mars was in the 1st chart (day he went missing) and jupiter is now direct in aries 1°03, coming out of retrograde closely conjunct where jupiter was.
That's crazy to me, it's becoming very clear that retrogrades play important roles in cases like this.. as I mentioned in jolissas chart reading. Please go check hers out if you haven't. For now that's all I've got, thank you for reading.
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RIP Lucian mungia🩶
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Uranus and mars were conjunct and both sextiling venus, which was representing jolissa (the asc) above in the chart where she was last seen on cctv.
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If you have anything else to add or see something I don't please lmk.
HERE'S AN UPDATE!
One of my fav professional forensic astrologers who's found many missing persons before has just posted a video on Jolissa Fuentes showing us a map of where to look👇👇
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Another thing to add that kristy the criminal astrologer mentioned is Venus is in cancer in the 12th right? Very close to the Sun and Asc, she said she might have been on her way home (Cancer) and had a car accident on the way there. Her car may be hidden (12th house) near her home in an open field.
Jolissa fuentes found!!!
UPDATE 10/10/2022: (click to zoom)
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In the location right where it says trimmer is where she was found.. her car went off a cliff and into a area 250ft+ down.. between the mars and uranus line. The car was basically hidden underneath the trees and bushes... From that road there I can see how easy it is to get into an accident at that sharp turn.
She was found October 10th 2022 at around 1-6pm.
I looked up the chart of the day/exact time she was found and uranus was and is currently in retrograde at the EXACT degree that she had this accident (uranus wasn't in retrograde at that time)...isn't that crazy? I believe that this uranus retrograde is possibly what played a part in locating her bc it took us back to a time-even the investigator himself said these words "went back to the area that was one of the 1st places searched" so retrogrades have this way of bringing us back to the past so we can revisit, redo, gain new information from past events, it basically gives you a 2nd look or 2nd chance to make things right. Atleast that's my opinion anyway.
When reading a crime chart always pay attention to the aspects. What's aspecting the most important placements? Venus was very important here. The 2nd chart at 5:24am (top) shows the aftermath of the 1st one.. crazy.
At 1st look of jolissas chart before this case was swarmed with conspiracy theories, I was less confused. As you can see at the top before the updates, that was my initial interpretation of what could have happened. That's the thing about stuff like this or whatever the situation may be, always trust your 1st instinct. The most simple one bc when you allow other people's judgments to define your own you end up being very confused. For a while I had this post on private bc I was looking to other people for information since I couldn't confirm my own. They were saying she was in the open field by her house (bc there is many empty lots around) or possibly taken by someone, trafficked.. as more time passed it was like the crazier the theories got and I believed some of them. I didn't wanna say the wrong thing so that's why I privated. But now knowing what we know, I feel like more cases/investigators/searchers should try thinking outside of their own perception. Yes you may not be able to see off a cliff or imagine something happening but you just never know and you have to be bold enough to trust yourself when you have a strong gut feeling. Cut off all the noise, theories and stick to the facts + evidence only, that's the closest thing you can do to finding a missing person.
And focus on those who have experience too, Kristi the criminal astrologer helped me so much in this case. Very much an underrated astrologer
Aspects to note:
Saturn square mars, uranus and sun (transit). Saturn conjunct Jolissas sun, mars/uranus/sun square jolissas sun too.
Sun square mars and uranus (transit)
Venus inconjunct saturn and square pluto. (Transit)
To see the rest of my criminal astrology posts that get lost on my page, search and follow hashtag #forensicastrology 😊 <- (no spaces)
May you rest in peace, jolissa 💜 I heard great things about you, so sad you're gone..
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