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devilslittletritone · 11 months
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For those wondering about my GenLoss theory, this is basically what happened last night.
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xhaoticprince · 11 months
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conclusion of generation loss: holy shit. Holy fucking shit. It was insane, the slow rise to horror, suffering, and gore ? Ranboo's job was insane, seriously it was sick. Their acting skills, which I've seen several people bash, was really good, you could see how dedicated he was ! And the ending, with the VHS, opening to the probability of more, I got the chills. Seriously, they did a sick job, and I'm so glad I was there to witness it through my screen.
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cosmicjunkyard · 11 months
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I am so distraught that Ranboo thinks we wanted him dead you don't even know.
He had no idea that when the vote began, majority voted for them to live. He has no idea when we realised that life meant Ranboo being trapped, we tried (AND ALMOST SUCCEEDED) to go 50/50.
Ranboo will probably never find out or realise that when he asked for us to kill them, we swayed the vote because we wanted to help them, to let them choose something for once. He thought that we chose death because we wanted to see them dead WHEN WE DIDN'T.
HE THOUGHT WE HATED HIM SO HE DIDN'T TRUST US
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here-there-be-drag0ns · 11 months
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okay okay okay something i saw that i havent seen anyone else talk about is the sequence of shots when sneeg gets dragged back in and "reprogrammed" (for lack of a better word while still missing information).
Just about everyone ive seen talk about how intense and revealing that scene is focuses on the shot with sneeg in the foreground and the puzzler in the background, and the majority of takes ive seen say something along the lines of "he's in shock, he knows something is wrong, and all he can do is stare at sneeg getting put back" but here's the thing: thats not it!!
it wasn't something i noticed till it ended - not really - but they weren't staring, they weren't in shock. They were paused.
The Puzzler is mid-comment, the victims were all still begging and sobbing, and ranboo has his hand on the controls with the carousel spinning- and then Squiggles popped up with only the message "Please hold." and everything goes silent. And then sneeg starts screaming.
We see the carousel stop, we see ranboo with their hand on the controls, and we see the Puzzler frozen in place with his mouth still open mid-remark. Even the Rats dont move. All of that is pretty quickly skipped over and forgotten as the focus is on sneeg's recapture, reprogramming, and reinstallment.
Then the shot that pulls the most attention, sneeg in the foreground and the puzzler in the background with the focus alternating between them. we see the producer that placed sneeg leave the set, then another shadow cross the scene, then a few more beats to allow the other producers to leave the set... and then everything comes back all at once.
The carousel starts moving again, the victims all start sobbing and begging all at once, the Rats continue to hop around, the Puzzler finishes his exclamation and moves away from the cage, and ranboo finally shifts his weight.
I wont pretend to know what exactly all of this means. However, i believe it shows exactly how much control Showfall Media has over the production so long as their "characters" have not broken free.
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rainboworm · 11 months
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ok so are we supposed to know what was up with gl!Niki bc from what i can understand it’s either:
A she wasn’t under showfall’s control and could see what was actually happening so she tried her best to be picked so she could get out of there
B she was under showfalls control and they physically forced to smile and act normal so she wouldn’t tip the viewers off
C she wasn’t under showfall’s control and was still crying and screaming for help but the filter showfall put in place for ranboo (and the viewers) makes it look like she’s smiling
is this right or am i stupid
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knine-nights · 11 months
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Genloss Theory #2
More Theories
Well, back again back again! Here for another theory. This one is a bit more solid and may be accepted as canon for all I know but I’ve seen some debate. Keep in mind, this is my personal theory, it may be completely wrong. 
So, we all remember the scene in Episode 3 when Hetch has “died” and Ranboo stabs an employee only for wires to come out instead of blood. The generally accepted understanding is that the employees bleed wires. Which does make sense but I’m here to offer a possible counter explanation. He’s just not seeing the blood.
Earlier in the episode, Ranboo and Charlie find an employee who was killed by Security:
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Clearly he’s bleeding real blood and not wires. There is the argument to be made that he simply hasn’t been under Showfall’s control long enough to be filled with wires but I have another idea: this is what really happened and when we saw the employee bleed wires, that wasn’t real.
We already know, based on Ranboo’s stream, that the video turning more cinematic is meant to show that Showfall is still in control and Ranboo just no longer sees the cameras. So, what if the employee who bled wires was actually bleeding real blood but Ranboo was back under control enough to only see wires? It would explain the discrepancy between this employee and the other. 
Just like how, in Episode 2, Charlie “bled” slime because everyone’s perception was controlled by Showfall, the employee in Episode 3 bleeds wires because Showfall is exerting their control again. 
That’s my theory anyways, could be wrong. If anyone has anything to add, feel free to comment or reblog!
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aspparticune · 10 months
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I realized something about Generation Loss that made me love it even more. Someone else has undoubtedly already thought of something like this but I’ve seen no other posts about it so I’m just gonna imagine that I’m clever okay here we go✨
During the finale when Ranboo was tied up to his crucifix, Hetch told him that when the mask had been off during the events leading up to that point, Ranboo had been fully in control of himself. Ranboo protested, saying it had been Showfall making the fatal decisions, that he was being controlled by them and had no choice. It was true that Ranboo, even while in control when the mask was off, didn’t realize exactly what was happening. It’s not like those moments of lucidity were ever long enough for them to figure out how to change anything. But they were still moments of lucidity. Tiny scraps of free will that Ranboo was given. And the choices made in those moments didn’t save anyone, but who knows? Maybe they could have, if Ranboo had played his cards differently. Ranboo argued that he didn’t have a choice, that there was nothing else that could have been done; he was horrified by the blood on his hands but denied that he could have changed the outcomes.
The day after the finale, CC!Ranboo told us on stream that there had indeed been an ending planned for if the majority had voted live, and they told us what it was, debunking the theories that the ending was always going to be death no matter what. They confirmed that the votes hadn’t been rigged, that the outcome was 100% true to viewer votes. After all, their goal, the very experiment that gave this Generation its name, was to see if we as a collective would actually vote to kill somebody. And just as they’d been hoping, we did. If you really want to see whether the majority would vote for death, you wouldn’t rig the vote because you’d never get your answer. That final vote was a test of our human psychology; we were the subjects of the social experiment. And yet there were still posts being made weeks later about how the ending was predetermined, about how our votes never really mattered, about how no matter what we did that box would have closed on his head.
At the core of this whole experiment, CC!Ranboo did to us exactly what Showfall did to GL!Ranboo. They gave us just enough free will that we were able to argue that we never had any at all.
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sussusamogus47 · 11 months
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I just wanted to call to attention the board games in the final puzzle room, bc I haven't really seen anyone talk about them all that much.
I genuinely can't tell if they were all deliberately chosen for what they are, or if instead it was a case of what the set designers (of Genloss, not Showfall) could get their hands on, but the relative obscurity/odd choice of games makes me think that for the most part it was deliberate.
Lemme explain, starting with the most interesting one first.
Game One: My 2 Homes
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This game is most notable because it's the one boardgame that Ranboo actually calls out by name, and one of two (if i remember right) that they ever interact with. What's clever though is how it could easily be written off -- Jerma asks the three of them for examples of things in the room, and he provides one. End of story right?
But consider first that the mind control over them has been getting stronger and stronger, and the past few rooms we've been seeing them become more NPC-like, interacting with things less and less, taking less of an interest in other things.
What makes it more interesting in my opinion though, is the fact that the game is meant to help children "communicate and process their feelings about divorce".
What does this mean though?
Well, looking at the verb definitions of divorce, there's two ways it can be taken:
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You could make an argument for the first definition, sure. But just look at that second definition. Separate or dissociate something from something else. Aka Ranboo and reality.
Suddenly Ranboo's calling out of the game looks more like a call for help. To use the game for its intended purpose and say "I'm still here, please help me. I don't want this to continue."
I could be stretching here. But the subtly of it is really good, and imo wouldn't be out of place.
Game Two: Maul of America
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The pun in this one is actually what made me notice the oddity of some of the choices of these board games. For those who mightn't know, the Mall of America is one of the largest malls in the United States.
The premise of this game is simple: You're in a mall during the zombie apocalypse, and have to fight your way out. One player controls all of the zombies, and each other player controls themselves, obviously.
The parallels here alone are honestly astounding lol
But wait, there's more!! Upon rewatching this entire section, I believe this is the only other board game that Ranboo ever interacts with. Even more interestingly, I believe this might be the only game in the room that has its pieces outside of the box and partially set up.
For reference:
Here's an image of the board + some of the pieces, courtesy of boardgamegeek.com
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And here's the closest, best shot I could get of the board:
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Notice the standing pieces, the flipped over ones, and their positions relative to one another. Red is flipped, blue and orange are standing up. One zombie is standing, the rest are flipped. Blue is by red, and orange is by a zombie.
Now I'm sure you know, but for Dramatic Effect ™ I'd like to point out the primary colours of each person's outfit in this room:
Red
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Blue
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Orange
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So then, Ranboo, Sneeg, and Austin are obviously intended to be the players here, with either Showfall (or the founder) controlling the zombies. Sneeg's blue token is likely closer to Ran's red one to indicate that they know each other, which supports some of the other theories around that.
But then why's Ranboo's token flipped? And what's with the zombie?
Well this is where we pull into Speculation Station, because I'm honestly not too sure. I'd like to say that the flipped token indicates Ranboo's mind controlled state, but then why isn't Sneeg's flipped too? After all, we all saw him get forcefully controlled by the Showfall Crew. My only other guess is that it hints at the ending, where somehow Austin and Sneeg survive and escape Showfall where Ranboo doesn't, but I feel like that's shaky at best so idrk.
Similar problems occur with the zombie, too. You could say it's Ranboo being mind controlled by the zombie player, but then Sneeg should have one too if that's the case. It can't really be Jerma bc he's well, dead by this point. It could maybe be the camera operator? But we also see the rats behind the curtain so wouldn't they have one too?
I really don't know honestly. But I've been going on about this one for a while lol so I should probably move on.
Game Three: Anti-Monopoly
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This one is basically what it says on the tin: Anti-Monopoly, or a trust busting game where players have to go around dismantling large corporations. Depending on the size of the company, (oligopoly, trust, or monopoly) you need one to three tokens respectively to take them down.
I'd imagine that Showfall is a pretty large corporation, so my guess is that the symbolism here is meant to be Hetch's (or even Ranboo's) intention to dismantle the company. If the former, it could maybe mean that Hetch isn't here to actually help Ranboo, but is instead using him for in order to dismantle Showfall, which would be a twist for sure.
Game Four: Twister Moves
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This seems like a version of Twister with maybe a musical chair-esque aspect to it. Someone plays as the DJ and plays music, and calls out moves to the other players.
If I had to guess, this is meant to symbolize Showfall's control over people, and how they tell them what to do.
Miscellaneous Games
These ones I don't really have much (or anything) for, honestly. I'm mostly putting them here in case anyone has any ideas, or in case they're somehow relevant.
I also have to stop adding images unfortunately bc I've hit the app's limit :(
Battleground: Crossbows and Catapults
Interestingly enough I had this as a kid lol. Used to play with just the lil plastic castles and guys a lot, not really playing the game. Anyway, the premise is you use the rubber-band powered disc launchers on top of the castles to knock down the other team's guys. Apparently hitting their flag gets you bonus lives or something, so maybe that's relevant?
Star Wars 100 Piece Puzzle (1996)
I.. actually really doubt this one's relevant. It seems a bit too mainstream for it to be, and it's also a puzzle. The date could maybe be relevant? Piece count? Or somehow the characters on it (Luke, Leia, Vader) are, but I just can't think of anything that'd work here, so my best guess is it's a red herring.
Classico (??)
I literally couldn't find anything on this one that matched the box, so I'm at a total loss.
Closing Remarks
Well, I hope that was all comprehendable :D I spent the past two hours or so putting it all together, and honestly in the process of doing so found wayy more to it than I initially thought.
And with that, I bid you adieu!
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misvin · 10 months
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ok i know this is probably just some twitch thing i dont understand but i think its very interesting how the showfall extension integration whatever it is Still active on ranboo's channel. its almost like They're Still Watching.....
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mayivytalksperhaps · 10 months
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saw a post talking about how gl!ranboo ended up in showfall media. most theories I've seen have been that the actors were kipnapped/raised by showfall. which is beautiful and tragic in it's own way. but what if gl!ranboo chose showfall? What if he was an aspiring actor responding to a casting call? this could relate to how gl!Sneeg seems to know him during the hat scene in ep.2. they could have been friends that went together. I also love this theories implications of when he's receiving his memories back during the final scene. He'd be remembering that he brought himself there.
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devilslittletritone · 11 months
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Theory here:  Right before the choice happens, Ranboo’s mask returns to flashing. Its possible that these events arn’t really happening.  So it’s entirely possible that Ranboo did not actually die, and instead experienced something similar to what Charlie did.
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xhaoticprince · 11 months
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I'm not saying that everyone in genloss was kidnapped by ShowFall and is under mind control but that's exactly what I'm saying. Everything actually is just a show put up by Showfall.
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kityenok · 10 months
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So yknow how alot of people have talked about how the RGBtrio or atleast Charlie grew up at Showfall? Well i have a lil theory on what happened to Charlie's parents because im insane
I think that Charlie's parents are actually brainwashed employees of Showfall. They're no longer human, and no way of returning to how they once were. I think that for awhile Charlie lived a semi-normal life while his parents were just starting working at Showfall, but once they started becoming what they are now, they came and took Charlie away and covered it up somehow, not sure how yet. But either way, i think this is... much more horrific. Because, even if Charlie did make it out with Ranboo, what would they have to go back to? No family, no friends, just eachother, and that's it.
Im actually going feral over this. btw
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here-there-be-drag0ns · 11 months
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hi so um someone said something that made me Think (it was tags on a piece of art referencing the fact that gl!ranboo killed gl!charlie twice already, and that the bulletproof vest protected charlies stomach) and so i went back and i rewatched the scene with charlie and ranboo in the surplus/storage store and. um.
charlie had stopped talking after dropping the axe, but then he watches ranboo pick up, inspect, and pocket an incredibly sharp-looking knife that appears to be shaped for both stabbing and cutting (it looks like a hunting knife? i think?) and as soon as ranboo moves to pocket the knife charlie starts talking and moving away from ranboo.
His voice immediately sounds incredibly nervous - more so than the base line fear from being chased by the Wire Beast - and he picks up the bulletproof vest that protects his chest and stomach (the place where ranboo vivisected him in the previous episode) and goes "okay okay hey um, so yeah im just gonna- if you dont mind im just gonna put this on-"
Ranboo with a knife makes him Very Nervous, but this scene comes even before they find the sets for the warehouse and the cabin. So even if Charlie still doesn't remember much of anything yet, the lingering fear is still there.
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michaels-two-dads · 11 months
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Ok so something that does interest me is that Ranboo’s statement here saying that the box is going to be used again:
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Proves that the box is DEFINITELY going to be used for something else in the future of Genloss, which actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it considering that Ranboo used the word “box�� as an out-of-context spoiler prior to Genloss being released, and that means he knew it would 100% be a relevant spoiler. And in the case of Ranboo’s death in the Gen 1 finale, that was NOT a guaranteed ending, as Ranboo has confirmed there would have been a different ending, had the audience chosen “Live”.
So the “box” spoiler must refer to something that is going to happen no matter what
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carebeartherese · 11 months
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Ok so I’ve got a few things to say
1: that finale was wonderful and I already miss it
2: Ofc Hetch is the one in the minigame dubbed “the savior”, the whole site was made by The Founder, and Hetch clearly works for them.
3: Ranboo being killed and the music cutting while their blood drips out was peak unsettling and also the way they look in the end credits is the way their character looks in the minigame
4: Charlie??? Sneeg??? Nikki??? Ethan??? The sad thing is that since Hetch was lying to Ranboo, presumably to get him into the trap, the rest of the cast might not be alive after all :(
5: on the topic of Hetch tho, was the Hetch that tried to help Ranboo throughout these three episodes the same Hetch that trapped and killed him??
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