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darkest-fantasy · 2 days

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FRIENDLY REMINDER: LUCIEN PROBABLY GOT PAPA ARCERON’S BLESSING TO BE WITH ELAIN 😭

I know that Elain will have internal battles about her father’s death in her novel. Elain was probably the only sister who loved her father unconditionally. Even Feyre knew that Elain was the special child, the one whom their father adored.

I also think it is so beautiful that Lucien went on an entire adventure with Papa Archeron. I think about the fact that he most likely gave his blessing to Lucien to be with Elain 😭

Out of all the mated males, Lucien was the only one that got close to Papa Archeron. I think his blessing will mean the world to Elain. Even though it is not something necessary ( which the elriels will claim) I know that Elain will hold that to her heart forever.

I am just so ready for them to completely open up after all these years. I know Elain will love the story about Lucien’s adventure with her father. It will be incredible.

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the-darkestminds · 2 days

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Elriels suggesting that shipping Gwyn with Azriel is disrespectful to real SA victims is without a doubt the worst take I have ever seen in my life lol

“Stop shipping Gwyn with ANY man without her consent”

LMFAO WHAT SHE AINT REAL 😭 how tf do I get her consent?? Do I need a permission slip from SJM??

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gwyns · 2 days

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wait i think i know the reason i like the theory of eris being gwyn's grandpa as opposed to her half brother... it's because, for gwyn to exist, eris would've had to fuck. so az getting a mate and overall eternal happiness relied solely on eris' rizz game

if true, the mother does indeed have a sense of humor

#@ mutuals and anyone who happens to see this post in the tags im sorry for being annoying about this. it will happen again #acotar #eris vanserra #gwyneth berdara #azriel #gwynriel #tp

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acourtofthought · 1 day

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My husband finally put into words for me something that has been the main problem with this whole Anti Gwynriel because of Gwyn's past narrative.

According to Anti's, it's not ok to ship Gwyn with Az because she's not healed enough and hasn't shown that she's ready for a relationship.

According to Anti's, fanart of Gwynriel in provocative positions are not appropriate because it's disrespectful to Gwyn due to her SA, that she needs to first give verbal consent before we're allowed to imagine what a HEA for Gwynriel might look like.

And at first, it almost feels like a gotcha for them because you question whether you're disrespecting real survivors by saying, "she doesn't need to give consent for us to ship them since it's a book." This statement is true, I don't think readers should be forced to abide by real world morals when it comes to possible paths a characters arc might take, however it makes you pause for a moment to question whether what you're saying is disrespectful to those who have been victims.

But he actually flipped that entire thing on it's head when he said, "if the issue is about consent, then why is only being applied to a SA victim? Shouldn't consent be applied to everyone?"

It was kind of a lightbulb moment for me because those Anti's never vocalize how it's wrong for people to ship Eris & Az, Mor & Emerie, Vassa & Lucien (SA victim), Lucien, Jurian & Vassa, the LoA & Helion (because at this point they are not a consenting pair), Nesta & Eris. There are a bunch of non canon, non consent ships in this series and nobody has an issue with those. Nobody takes up the crusade arguing that it's wrong for people in the fandom to imagine those pairings together or drawing fanart of them in NSFW positions. Most of the time they're celebrated but has Emerie consented to having a sexual relationship with Mor? All she did was call her beautiful and Feyre had done the same in ACOMAF. Why do they never call out fanart of that pairing? Or Neris after Nesta harshly rejected him? Where Eris is currently suffering torture at the hands of Beron and we've got no clue as to his sexual preference. Also, Elain only consented to a fully clothed kiss in the bonus (remember, she grew up with human morals which she still holds fast too, she didn't jump right into bed with Graysen), we have no evidence she wanted more yet there's plenty of NSFW E/riel artwork out there and I'm betting some existed before SF, before she even consented to a kiss.

The only time I've ever heard anyone argue for consent or argue against NSFW art is in relation to Az and Gwyn and the message they're sending is that only female characters who have been SA need to give consent before fans should be shipping them.

That's when the shipping agenda makes itself known because if no other non-canon / non-consenting pairing disturbs them to the point they need to create post after post surrounding how wrong people are for shipping them, then it's clear to see that it's only Gwyn being shipped with Az that they take issue with and when only E/riels make these arguments, it seems highly suspect.

Gwyn's SA is irrelevant in terms of consent because EVERYONE should have consent before engaging in physical acts with others no matter their past. However, Gwyn's SA should not be the weight dragging her character down, the scarlet letter on her chest that means the fandom isn't allowed to give her the same treatment that all other characters receive. Where we're free to imagine and create fanart / fanfiction / headcanons (even the NSFW variety) for any pairing that we desire, regardless of their past or preference, even those who have never expressed romantic interest towards one another, except for Gwyn.

Consent in the actual book will be important but consent having already been given in our imaginations so we can imagine possibilities beyond what is currently written is the right of any reader.

#gwynriel #anti e/riel #gwyneth berdara #pro gwyneth berdara

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glossamerfaerie · 24 hours

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I feel like a lot of people focus on Nesta’s reaction to Gwynriel’s relationship once they go public. Maybe Nesta threatens Az to keep her girl safe. Maybe she tears up with joy for her BFFs. Maybe she’s speechless because she didn’t see it coming. And so on. But no one ever talks about how Cassian will react other than the obligatory joy and merciless teasing. “Surely he’s going to take revenge for Az’s disruptive chaperoning!”

Except… I don’t think that’s quite right for Cassian. He’s watched his brother pine after their mutual friend for 500 years. He feels incredibly guilty for sleeping with Mor just because he was jealous of Az’s crush. He’s been acting as a buffer in a fucked up situation that only ended recently. He knows how desperately lonely Az is. How much Az wants to find love. How fragile Az’s heart is despite his broody spymaster exterior.

I like to imagine that Cassian finds Gwyn in the Library, asking for a private word. He’s happy for them, of course, but he asks Gwyn for a favor. Cassian explains that he will support whatever Gwyn wants in this relationship, whether it’s being with Az or breaking up if she’s unhappy. All he asks is that Gwyn be gentle with Az’s heart and devotion, especially when it comes to ending things. Just… be careful not to shatter his heart.

Everyone assumes that Az can withstand any pain or blow. But Cassian knows better. Everyone else is worried for Gwyn in this relationship, but only Cassian is worried for Azriel. 💔🥺

#gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #acotar #azriel #gwyn x azriel #nessian #nesta archeron #nesta x cassian #cassian #my acotar headcanons

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positivewitch · 2 days

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azrielsbxtch · 3 days

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If ACOTAR 5 is Azriel’s book ( which I think it is) I hope the cover is blue…

A dark beautiful blue with gold letters & foiling ✨

#gwyneth berdara #azriel x gwyn #gwynriel #pro gwynriel #gwynriel headcanon #gwyn berdara #gwynriel fic #nesta archeron #pro gwyn #house of wind gang

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yazthebookish · 15 hours

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#gwynriel

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the-valkyries-gwyn-nesta-emerie · 3 days

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It truly makes me wonder if E/riels really read ACOSF when they say things like this:

Because if they truly read the book.... they'd know this happens after the bonus scene takes place:

And this:

Two scenes in which his shadows have a reaction when Gwyn is around or mentioned in ACOSF. One during training, one when Gwyn is in the Blood Rite. And there is no singing involved.

Oh, and in the bonus scene.. there is more than just that one mention of the shadows dancing with Gwyn breathe.

There is this before they even dance for her breathe:

And this happens when something restless settles in him during his scene with Gwyn:

And this is as Azriel is leaving his interaction with Gwyn:

Again, no *actual* singing involved. Azriel can hear & see things others cannot so when he's leaving he's not actually hearing Gwyn sing. He's hearing faint, beautiful singing that follows him that his shadows sing back to, which can only be concluded as foreshadowing of a mate bond between them since Nessian bond snaps into place that same night and is described as music between their souls. If Gwyn was the one singing, that would have been made clear.

I rest my case 😌

#gwynriel #pro gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #azriel shadowsinger #azriel's shadows #azriel's bonus chapter #azriel acosf #azriel and gwyn #azriel x gwyn #gwyn x azriel #gwyn and azriel #pro gwyneth berdara #acotar series #acotar #gwyn acosf #acosf #a court of silver flames #a court of thorns and roses

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sanzy4 · 2 days

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What am I doing you ask??

Oh nothing just sobbing and imagining a Gwynriel duet recreation of this scene in Mamma Mia.

LIKE GWYN AND AZRIEL SINGING “LAY ALL YOUR LOVE ON ME” BY THE BEACH IN THE SUMMER COURT ON THEIR HONEYMOON!!!!???!!!!

I know I’m being delusional but I need an ACOTAR musical.

I’m crying now I love them so much💙🩵🤍

Ty to @vellaryss on instagram for drawing this gorgeous art!

#azriel and gwyn #gwyn and azriel #pro gwynriel #gwynriel supremacy #gwyneth berdara #gwyn berdara #azriel shadowsinger #azriel #gwynriel #acotar #acosf #gwyn acosf #azriel acosf

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darkest-fantasy · 1 day

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I can just imagine Elain and Lucien stuck at an Inn. Lucien is hurt, it is raining, they’re both frustrated. Then it all comes out all at once, all the feelings bottled up after all these years.

“I burn for you. I burn for someone who does not feel the same!”

“You burn for me?” Elain asks, one hand placed over her throat.

“Why do you think I went to find Vassa? With no army, no resources? Completely blind into dangerous territory?” He says in a whisper.

Elain takes a step back, her back hitting the wall, shaking her head in disbelief. “I-”

Lucien lowers his head but takes a step forward, closing in on them. He places a hand on the wall behind them. Elain can feel his heat elapse along his skin.

“I’ve burned for you even before I knew you were my mate. I burned for you when I broke out of those restraints. I’ve burned for you the second I laid my eyes on you.”

There was one single pause, and then Elain felt the tug, his heart, his heat.

“I burn for you.” Elain could not believe she said it, that it finally all came out.

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foxylady13 · 3 days

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In ACOSF, the Valkyries are in the Blood Rite and while there Gwyn talks about how she's tired of being in the library....which only means she has a journey to go on herself...

She then goes on to say she doesn't want to take the safe road and instead wants to take a new road with the Valkryies. A road that will lead them to become something NEW. That something new and different would then lead to prove and triumph over everyone, but especially the Illyrians rules and restrictions.

Then, after she's done saying that... A cold wind blew off Ramiels sides. Whispering, murmuring.... almost prophetic wouldn't you say? Especially given she's a Priestess...

Could she be prophesying a road that will now be taken? A road which will lead a new beginning and bright future for them, and the Illyrians?

Could she be the catalyst alongside Azriel to bring change to the Illyrians with the Valkyries standing beside her?

I hope we get answers soon 🙏

#gwyneth berdara #pro gwyneth #pro gwyn #gwyn acosf #gwynriel #pro gwynriel #azriel shadowsinger #azriel #azriel x gwyn #gwyn x azriel #azriel and gwyn #gwyn and azriel #acotar #acotar series #acotar 6

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sadiegirl2021 · 2 days

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House of Wind Gang Playing Spin the Bottle Gwyn (spinning bottle): Who's the Mother going to choose!?

*Bottle lands on Cassian. Gwyn smiles and moves towards him for a kiss. Shadows are agitated* Nesta (elbowing Azriel): Why is this turning me on? It's hot, right? Azriel (seething with anger): Sure! Emerie (takes turn to spin): Please no males! Please no males! *Bottle lands on Gwyn. Emerie's delighted. Shadows darken as she kisses her. Azriel grabs the bottle to take his turn* Azriel (whispering): You know what to do *Shadows intervene so bottle lands on Gwyn* Gwyn: Hey! That's cheating! Azriel (shadows already pulling her towards him): Shut up and kiss me!!

#Jealous Azriel #gwynriel #pro gwynriel #azriel's shadows #azriel shadowsinger #gwyneth berdara #nesta archeon #cassian #emerie of illyria #house of wind gang #nessian #incorrect acotar quotes

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glossamerfaerie · 3 days

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One aspect of Gwynriel that really excites me is religion. The other protagonists don’t seem to take religion or rituals very seriously? Everyone respects the Mother and acknowledges her power (and the Cauldron), but we haven’t explored faith among the fae. Feyre has a terrible experience with Ianthe (a sadly accurate depiction of corruption within organized religion). But we know that not all priestesses are like power-hungry Ianthe. Nesta is understandably indifferent even though she later has an experience with the Mother during Nyx’s birth. Rhys and Cassian seem respectful but we’ve never seen them pray or attend services. It’s giving “only attending church during Christmas” level of religious commitment.

Azriel, on the other hand… we haven’t had much canon insight in his head, but I firmly believe that Azriel is more religious than his brothers. Like he’s not the type to attend temple services, but he probably thinks about faith and the Mother regularly. Clearly he has contemplated mating bonds and who creates them — maybe he’s prayed for a mating bond? Maybe his mother raised him to be more religious. In HOFAS, after Nesta takes the mask off in a close call, Az’s very first instinct is to thank the Mother. Possibly that is meaningless (like how an atheist can say “thank god”) but idk. Az seems to have more faith than his brothers.

“The Mask fell from Nesta’s face, clattering on the stone.

Nesta swayed, but Azriel was there, catching her, bringing her to his chest, scarred hands stroking her hair. “Thank the Mother,” he breathed. “Thank the Mother.”

A few chapters later, Az describes the Cauldron and what happens after death.

“Bryce nodded to the carving. “What’s the big deal about a cauldron?”

“The Cauldron,” Azriel amended. Bryce shook her head, not understanding. “You don’t have stories of it in your world? The Fae didn’t bring that tradition with them?”

Bryce surveyed the giant cauldron. “No. We have five gods, but no cauldron. What does it do?”

“All life came and comes from it,” Azriel said with something like reverence. “The Mother poured it into this world, and from it, life blossomed.”

Later in the conversation, Az explains what happens to souls after death.

“When you die, where do your souls go?” Did they even believe in the concept of a soul? Maybe she should have led with that.

But Azriel said softly, “They return to the Mother, where they rest in joy within her heart until she finds another purpose for us. Another life or world to live in.”

The way Az talks about the Mother, with reverence and confidence, makes me certain that he’s more religious than his brothers.

Then, of course, we have Gwyn — a literal priestess who was raised in a temple. She still attends daily services and sings for the choir. I’ve wondered if what happened in Sangravah shook Gwyn’s faith. Maybe she thinks the Mother exists but isn’t a benevolent deity. Maybe she’s bitter that the Mother didn’t save her servants from Hybern attacks. She definitely feels shame and unworthiness — Gwyn no longer feels like she has a right to wear the Invoking Stone. Working through those feelings will be a major aspect of Gwyn’s arc.

“You asked me once why I don’t wear the hood or the Invoking Stone. That stone is a sign of holiness. How can someone like me wear it?”

Within the temple, Gwyn also faces prejudice and discrimination from her fellow sisters. Ianthe isn’t the only asshole within the organization (cough Merrill cough). I’m sure that some people in Sangravah were cruel to Gwyn’s family because of their nymph heritage. I don’t know what SJM has planned, but I feel that religion will play a major role in the Gwynriel book. I wouldn’t be surprised that, like Nesta, Gwyn has a firsthand experience with the Mother. She will definitely use the blue invoking stone for healing (a nice parallel to Az’s blue siphons).

“It’s an Invoking Stone.” Gwyn unfurled her fingers, revealing the gem within her hand. “Similar to the Siphons of the Illyrians, except that the power of the Mother flows through it. We cannot use it for harm, only healing and protection. It was shielding us.”

I’m also curious to see Gwyn and Az discuss their religious beliefs together. Maybe Az gets permission to join the dawn and dusk services. The man barely sleeps, he might as well watch Gwyn during her religious commitments. The shadows are NOT going to pass a chance to hear their girl sing (or watch her glow). Maybe Nesta can talk Az into singing with the choir. 🥹

Nesta could only gape at the lovely melody, the voices from the front of the cavern leading it, lifting higher than the others. Gwyn sang, chin high, a faint glow seeming to radiate from her. The music was pure, ancient, by turns whispering and bold, one moment like a tendril of mist, the next like a gilded ray of light. It finished, and Merrill spoke about the Mother and the Cauldron and the land and sun and water. She spoke of blessings and dreams and hope. Of mercy and love and growth.

Idk, maybe I’m wrong about Az being religious. But it feels like such a wasted opportunity if we don’t learn more about the Mother! At the very least, I do see Az attending the dawn and dusk services if he’s not on a mission. 🎼🩵🎶

#gwynriel #my acotar thoughts #pro gwyn #gwyneth berdara #azriel #gwyn x azriel #nesta archeron #hofas spoilers #house of flame and shadow #acotar #a court of silver flames

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gwynsdefenseattorney · 3 days

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✨✨Friendly Reminder✨✨

Elain didn’t “consent” to Nesta changing her that’s why it didn’t happens. Gwyn didn’t “consent” to being with Azriel so I’m not shipping them. I’ve seen this being argued A LOT lately and I think I need to let everyone in on a little secret, are you ready for it?

BOOK CHARACTERS ARE FICTIONAL, THEY CAN’T CONSENT TO ANYTHING. Book characters are inanimate objects that have no agency. They have no REAL thoughts and opinions. They are puppets and Sarah Janet Maas is their puppeteer. They do and say what SHE wants. Did y’all miss the part in English class where fantasy is not reality and shouldn’t be treated as such? Did absolutely no one teach you to SEPARATE reality from fiction?

Artwork by Madschofield

#pro gwynriel #gwynriel #gwynriel supremacy #gwyn berdara #gwyneth berdara #azriel shadowsinger #azriel #gwyn and azriel #azriel and gwyn #elucien #pro elucien #elucien supremacy #elain archeron #lucien vanserra #lucien and elain #elain and lucien #elucienarestillmates

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freyjas-musings · 11 hours

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SJM is known to give her MCs powerful lines ... you know which other character apart from Manon was introduced in the middle of a series only to be given numerous impactful lines ... You guessed it right .... our very own Gwyneth Berdara!!! We all know how popular Manon is and how relevant she was to the series , if Gwyns start has been this impactful and obviously she has a HUGE fanbase already she will only grow 100 times more in popularity after the next book

Here is the collection of all the amazing Gwyneth Berdara Quotes

Signifying inner strength ....

Signifying her ability to accept herself and her her friends for who they are and what they have been through....

Signifying her ability to hope and question...

Signifying her Will....

Signifying her emotional intelligence ....

Signifying her values in life....

Signifying her loyalty....

Signifying her ability to question and challenge...

Gwynriel is happening and it's very obvious that SJM fleshed Gywns character and gave her the significance for that very reason ... she had one book to introduce her and convince her readers ... I think the author just smashed the brief out of the park 😍

#gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #pro gwynriel #gwyn acosf #azriel shadowsinger #gwyn x azriel #acotar #post acosf #acosf theory #azriel

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