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demadogs · 2 years
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am i the only one that doesn’t have hope anymore? like at all? i don’t trust the duffers anymore and i feel like us(the bylers) created all this byler thing in our heads and we just looked too much into the details in the show :(
i dont blame you for not having hope bc volume 2 for byler definitely was a disappointment and i understand not wanting to look between the lines of the monologue and get hopes up only to be disappointed again but DO NOT think we just made all this up!! if byler doesnt happen i genuinely think that it was their plan originally and then they trashed it.
its not like theres two or three potential hints towards it. there are dozens and dozens of clues and subtext from the dialogue and actions of the characters but also the cinematography, the lighting, the score and tracks they use, the parallels to other couples on the show, the placement of their characters, and probably so much more we havent even noticed yet. we did not make anything up.
after volume 2 i wasnt that sad or mad because more than anything i was just VERY confused. because none of mike wheelers actions make sense unless hes deeply struggling with internalized homophobia. there will be genuine plotholes in the whole show if they stick with mlvn til the end.
lets look at mikes actions alone. can you answer ANY of these questions with an answer thats NOT related to his sexuality?
why did mike not let el touch her when they were kissing at the beginning of s3?
why did he say “its not my fault you dont like girls” if thats not projecting?
why did he say he loves her out loud to everyone else but then pretend he didnt know what she was talking about when she brought it up again?
why did he look so confused when el kissed him and said she loves him and why did he keep his eyes open and didnt kiss her back at all?
why didnt mike have any indication of even having a gf in his room besides the letter we saw him read, while el had a whole shrine and a “book of letters” from him? why did, instead, mike have wills drawings up all over the basement and has a while binder for them that we saw in s1. book of drawings.
WHY on earth wouldnt mike hug his best friend who he hasnt seen in months at the airport? its not because he knows wills feelings, the duffers and finn and the script itself have confirmed hes oblivious to his sexuality and feelings for him.
why did mike look so nervous to ask will about the painting? if it was just because their friendship was kinda dying i think he would have said it as if he was bored or didnt care but instead he looked like he cared a little too much and was trying to hide it. this is right after reading el’s letter that said that will might be painting for a girl.
why did mike barely even look at el as they were walking out of the airport and why did he wear something very different for mike as if he’s portraying someone he’s not?
why would mike emphasize so much “WE’RE FRIENDS!!! we’re friends!” will didnt mean it in a romantic context but mike took it that way.
why was mike kinda an asshole to el and didnt comfort her after the bullies at the rink? “she didnt look fine?” what the hell.
WHY COULDNT MIKE SAY OR WRITE THAT HE LOVES EL!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT SCENE IF HE ACTUALLY GENUINELY DOES LOVE HER??? why didnt he say it right then if he did?
why was that “i feel like i lost you” scene so god damn flirty? he’s never looked at el the way he looked at him here.
why did he nod when will told him that its scary to open up to people especially if they dont like the truth? why did finn say that this “psyches him out”?
why did mike say “its not fate, its not destiny, its just simple dumb luck” about first meeting el and then claim to her that the moment he say her in the woods was love at first sight? we know that this is a blatant lie and will should know this too.
why did mike look at will like THAT during the painting scene!!!??? (i will admit tho this could be finn wolfhard just wanting his character to be gay so he plays him gay but they could have used shots of him not looking at his lips but they kept them in.)
WHY DID WILL HAVE TO PUSH MIKE TO CONTINUE TALKING TO EL!!!!!???? HE WASNT GONNA SAY HE LOVES HER BUT WILL PUSHED HIM INTO IT!!!!!!!!
and thats just his actions alone!!! now lets look into the more technical film choices theyve made when it comes to mike wheeler. again, can you answer any of these questions with an answer thats not related to him having internalized homophobia?
why did they make it clear that max and lucas at day of the dead were having a date (“im spending romantic time with my girlfriend”) and then choose to place mike and will together but not with them, as if mike and will were on a date too.
why did they film mike and el’s break up in s3 so playfully and humorous with bright lighting, lots of colors, an audience, max and el laughing, and fun music after vs mike and will’s fight which was very dark and blue, pouring rain, harsh shadows, and played an emotional original score track?
WHY the eye witness parallel?
why would they frame mike in a closet in s3 during that awkward unreciprocated kiss? this is the biggest thing by far for me that makes me think he’s gay for sure.
why did they frame mike reading el’s letter so that theres a literal fucking one way sign pointing to an open closet?
why did bouncy upbeat music play when he and el reunited at the airport? they could have made it emotional but they made it light and playful as if its more friendly than romantic.
WHY DID THEY PLAY A TRACK CALLED “IN THE CLOSET” WHEN MIKE STARTS SPEAKING!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT WILL!!! this is also right after he said “we’re firends we’re friends!!” no its not just because el is in a literal closet here, the track starts during mike and wills fight.
why did they play a track that is EXTREMELY similar to the track eulogy during mike and el’s fight, a track thats only played when someone dies.
(emotional, tender music). why. its only used in romantic contexts. we see it used with byler, lumax, jopper, and once with mlvn when theyre at the pizza place.
why did they frame will out of focus in the middle of mike and el when they reunited!!? at first i thought this was just to emphasize will’s pov but now im thinking it might be more symbolic of will getting in between mike and eleven. he himself isnt doing that at all though, quite the opposite actually- he keeps giving mike relationship advice and hes the reason mike told el he loves her, so it must be in reference to how will is disrupting mike and els relationship because of mikes feelings for him.
why did they keep will in the frame when mike said he loved her? the only other time we had a similar one on one emotional monologue delivery to someone was in s2 when joyce, jonathan, and mike were trying to reach will and mike told him asking him to be friends was the best thing hes ever done. that was shot as if there were no one else in the room it was very centered around just will and mike, whereas this monologue shows will in the same frame as mike as well as will and jonathans reactions to what hes saying.
and lastly, WHY did they frame every couple so dramatically paired off together in the final shot while el was all alone. joyce and hopper, mike and will, and jonanathan and nancy. theyve done this in the past but this was the first time they made it excruciatingly obvious.
damn i wasnt gonna list out every thing i know when i first started answering this but thats what i ended up doing. anyways, again, i understand giving up considering how disappointing volume 2 was, but absolutely no way was it all in our heads. look at all that.
i still have hope just for the sheer fact that not only mike wheeler as a character, but all their film choices surrounding mike wheeler make no fucking sense unless hes gay and DEEP in the closet.
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hxgrl · 2 years
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Does anyone have the pic thats like an iphone lockscreen screenshot and one guy is texting like "please dont go back to him baby i love you" and they send a lot of money thwn under that another guy texts thats like "hey baby big daddy dick is back in LA" please jeuss christ ineed it
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gayspock · 3 years
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okay last tng thoughts before the final ep
- last time i did a proper dump i was abt to watch the pegasus and i literally dont remember wtf my thoughts on that were its just a big gaping hole help. all i remember was omg locke's actor locke from lost 😁hiya baldie. nowt else on the brain. i feel like i liked it though?? ehrm
-theres a few eps i jsut plain dont remember actually jesus christ. which is silly bc it was obly a few weeks ago like ew get it together bestie. i was actually shocked to realise tht ep was even in s7.... huh.
- i think ijust burnt out so badly in this season and the hit and miss episodes didnt help with the problem i already had with bingeing tng. its like- again, i can tell the show is at the end of its rope and i dont even mean tht in a bad way... i think it worked in its favour with some of the things it started trying to do in some eps (like Lower Decks, finally giving Crusher&Picard closure in Attached). but in a lot its like... kinda jsut stupid ideas (Genesis) or stuff that kinda could work out but they really fucked it (Eye of the Beholder - like that execution was sloppy babe).
- sub rosa is so much though i dont think i can elt it go i think helop im sSFV-F help tihelp jEUSS
- however Journey's End is the episode i have the most grief with for sure. now- i cant... rlly speak too much on the depictions here bc im very uninformed. what i will say is: it certainly felt hokey as hell with some of the portrayals and the resolution to the conflict was jsut... like sorry but what did picard do, exactly? and now that... absolves- okay uh... its literally- its literally just such a weird fucking set up with that whole thing.
- but also wesley. ggggfuckg. FUCKS sake. okay heres my thing! i have complex feelings with wes<3 i think ppl who loathe him are fucking weirdos with it like MOST of the time but i dont rlly like a lot of his earlier depictions, but that was in part due to the shoddy writing of s1&s2 of tng so i'm LENIENT and i actually really liked wes in his later reappearances as his character became more grounded. when he was actually facing consequences for sth at the academy? YEAH, i dug that! and i sjtu
- they were heading in a better direction. or at least one i wanted and preferred and i just hated the way they ended it with him insisting he was special and fated. it didnt help that the episode kinda elluded to his place on that planet being his destiny- i got very scared we were about to get into some messy white savior mess which woulsd make me throwup and gag so bad. lllike pwease dont pwease donnnttt. in the end thwey just let it be i guess but still like.
- the thing is i dont hate him going with the traveller and i really like the idea of him leaving starfleet and deciding to do that. thats honestly what i want! but i just- again this weird insistence that hes special and different form everyone else- it jsut... it doesnt fit right with me at all and its exacerbated by all the problems with his earlier characterisation and im like :( bc AGAIN i like wes after the rough start so its just kinda sad for this to be his send off . feels like it unravels a lot of nuance and just makes it. irritating again but im not going to unpack . all my wesley feelings bc i think it would be #controversial and i dont have the energy to deal with it im just gonna live in a world where the little guy got sth i wanted for him
- OH. and i was so so so happy to see ro lahren back and im happy she fucking went off at the end. literally so so so fucking good for her. fuck starfleet.
- im glad they are actually are easing us more into the problems with starfleet even if tng isnt strictly about that. again more of wht i like with how theyre being pulled in different directions more in s7.
- i dontthink i have much else to say rn before the finally. i did watch the cold open though and i must say. worf and deanna still fucking baffle me to no end. every time they did anything together i jsut thought i was in a fever dream bc it made no god damn sense. im sssorry. but they dont rlly have chemistry whatsoever and im not trying to be mean but its just the case. love and kisses.
- oh and im gonna miss tng all said and done. idk how soon i'll be rewatching it since i am going to go onto ds9 p quickly but yeah. i still deffo prefer tos- sorry. its just more to my tastes.
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snsmissionaries · 5 years
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11/26/18 -- Elder Dalton Hall, Ecuador Mission
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Happy Thanksgiving from Ecuador !
This week was super crazy. To be honest one of the hardest weeks ive had in the mission. So Fernando Candela expressed some serious challenges and things that are really going to postpone his baptism, hes a really good guy, but he has been in to some issues, but we are going to work with him and see if president Moreno can interview him and help him work through those challenges. Also, we have had hardly any contact with Juan Carlos. We talked with him in a park and got his number and set an appointment, but he wasnt there the next day and has not answered his phone since. It is super sad, but there isnt anything more we can do. Carmen has been drinking coffee but we didnt get to go over that with her, but she is super down to get rid of the coffee. We went to the store the other day and bought some Bolero, its like a cocoa drink thats similar to coffee just without the coffee, its legal, and she loves it. She wants to be baptized so Im sure well be in the baptismal font this Friday. We had so many interviews here in Santa Rosa and in Pasaje so we had to miss appointments and reschedule and so many other things. Satan is working hard because he knows that we are going to have a lot of success. So Kelly went on a little spiritual outing this week because she is really down and depressed because her husband just passed away recently and it has been really hard for her, so she didnt come to church Sunday, so now shell have to wait til next week to be baptized so that she can complete her attendances at church. Shes a really good person and likes coming to church and wants to be baptized so im sure next week she will be able to do that. Vannessa and Mara didnt come to church either because they had to work and go to machala and a million other things, so they are going to wait and be baptized next week. Vanessa has a boyfriend named Marcelo and hes chill but he doesnt want anything with the church. Vanessa and Marcelo have been waiting for 3 years to move in together but we talked about the law of chastity and now Vanessa has expressed that she doesnt know what to do. There are a bunch of financial issues if they get married and other things like that but we are praying that she makes the right decsion, the decision that the Lord wants for her. i know she will make the right decision because she is solid.
 So thats basically whats happened this week with our investigators, but I know that the Lord will help them with these challenges so that they might get on the covenant path by baptism. Its all good. Were going to work hard this week and help them acheive this goal. 
 Thanksgiving was ight........ lol we didnt do anything, its just like a normal day here lol. The Bears did win tho, again ! Ya mismo Super Bowl. This week My companions have been telling me that I have been sleep talking about baptisms and our invetsigators in Spanish lol thats pretty sick. Also, a super cool Brother from our ward Brother Robles went to the temple a bought me a book of Mormon in Quichua ! That family is awesome! I really want to learn Quichua now lol. 
 I am super glad to be a missionary, it is such a blessing. This is the experience of a lifetime and i am learning so much. I know that when we express everything to the Lord in personal prayer that he helps us to feel his peace and comfort throught the Holy Ghost. I know that God and Jeuss Christ love us and that they bless us for doing are best. 
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Elder Dalton Hall
  my pana from venezuela that cut my hair today (i was the first gringo whose hair he cut) lol
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