#lionheart and copperleaf

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step over firestar, there's a new lion in town

#lolling art #copperleaf #wc filou #lionheart #bt art #bt war era #Youtube #bt songs #theme songs #copperleaf song #the Countdown #lion #lion song #copperpaw #lionheart and copperleaf #copperleaf and lionheart #mentor and apprentice #mentor #apprentice #shadowclan #thunderclan #warrior cats #warriors #burning thistles #burning thistles au

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what... COULD have happened...?

#ideas ideas ideas #lolling art #btr #btr au #burning thistles #burning thistles au #bluestar #sandstorm #dustpelt #ferncloud #evil ferncloud au #airleap #lionheart #lionstar #frostfur #evil frostfur au #copperleaf #evil copperleaf au #<-misleading title hes not evil evil... or is he? #thornclaw #cinderpelt #brightheart #brackenfur #ashfur #lynxpaw #swiftpaw #redtail #darkheart au #darkstripe #fireheart

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What exactly spawned frostfurs hatred of the firesibs and co™? -frost hater anon

short answer: conspiracy theories

long answer: she used to love them! but she also loved gossip, and she had no qualms gossiping about the cats she loved. and Spottedleaf? oh, her romance drama was a pool of gossip waiting to happen. so of course Frostfur bought into and joined her mother Robinwing and Speckletail and Smallear in their circle of "did you hear? did you see? did you know?" Frostfur would tell her friends Spottedleaf and Willowpelt it was "just gossip" but just gossip hurts. Spotted and Willow began to feel uncomfortable around her and removed her from their kits' lives. the Firesibs were already starting to feel like Frostfur thought they were "strange," and didn't like being around her that much either. but she was still nice to them.

at first it was just that the gossip created a divide between them --- Frostfur still liked them, and some of the sibs even liked/tolerated her. but the gossip started getting more... outlandish. Frostfur stopped hanging out with her 'pawhood friends as much because the older gossipers didn't and she followed their lead, and, on the flip side, Spottedleaf, Willowpelt, Whitestorm, etc. stopped hanging out with her because she made them uncomfortable. Speckletail's mentorship of Lightningpaw, and how they didn't get along and Lightningpaw was rebellious, started to add fuel to the fire to the "Firesibs aren't good for this clan."

Chapter 29 is when Frostfur first mentions that "It’s almost like that family’s cursed." It's only partly malicious. She was starting a speculative rumor that Patchpelt got with his sister Willowpelt (which is false btw), because he was a "womanizer" and the others dismissed her theory of Willowpelt's mate being a ShadowClan tom (which was the truth, and she was kind of mad/petty that they refused to believe her). She is specifically talking about Spottedleaf and her siblings when she talks about the curse in this scenario, citing their poor romance lives as reasons for being "cursed." She doesn't mean they are seriously cursed, just that they have bad luck/bad blood. But it's that one little idea that slowly starts to form and stick like a burr. She mentions the idea of a "curse" more frequently, beginning to say that the Firesibs have bad luck (aka a curse) because their mom is a medicine cat and that broke the code.

Believe it or not, Airpaw/leap is the one who starts buying into and perpetuating this idea of being cursed. Obviously, Frostfur is his third mentor, and she's not the kindest to him, and, while we never see what she says to him specifically, it's clear she got in his head with the possible things pertaining to "a curse." He's genuinely the first cat who believes he's cursed. Even at this point, it's more just a word than a reality to Frostfur and the others.

It's not until Copperleaf and Clawface steal Frostfur's kits that she begins taking the curse seriously, and that StarClan specifically sought to curse their family. She's looking for someone to blame, and, I mean, Copperleaf's right there and he's Spottedleaf's kit, and it all just makes sense! "StarClan has cursed your family and anyone close to them will suffer!” She's saying she was close to them in this sentence - that because she let herself be close to that family, her kits were stolen.

It's from this point onward that Frostfur is outwardly hostile and aggressive with the Firefam. She doesn't want any of them touching her family, and she wants her family and friends separate from theirs. She genuinely starts to believe that the Firefam is cursed, and that the Firefam has bad intentions for ThunderClan. But, even then, she can still manage to be courteous to them. Of course, as time goes on, and more 'bad' things happen to her family --- Lionheart's death prior, Brindleface's kits getting sick, Cinderpelt's accident, etc. --- the idea of a curse only festers and turns her into a cruel being.

But even at her rudest, there was a sliver of kindness in her that respected that they were clanmates (hence why she never attacked them prior) and that perhaps they meant to be good cats and they were only cursed to do evil. She thought it would just be best if they stayed on their side of ThunderClan, and her group (Speckletail, Brindleface, some of the elders, some of the apprentices, etc.) stayed on their side. Ideally, the "cursed" would be kicked out, but unfortunately, Bluestar just wouldn't listen to her.

But Brightpaw's injury was the last straw, and all hell broke loose. She no longer cares about maintaining a curtness with that wretched family. They destroyed her entire family as far as she can see. Brindleface, Ravenwing, Cherryfur, Elderpaw, Fernpaw, Brackenfur, Cinderpelt --- they all choose the cursed family and met horrible fates for it (or in her eyes, they did). Brightpaw and Thornpaw were victims in it, and she never should have trusted Tulippaw because his father was Whitestorm. Even her friends --- Speckletail, Goldenflower --- began to distance from her and leave her alone.

She doesn't care about drama and gossip anymore. She cares about doing what StarClan clearly wanted and chasing out the fifthly cursed. She doesn't care about a code anymore. She'd kill if she knew how to be a killer.

Good thing she doesn't.

#lolling response #lolling thoughts #frostfur #frosted thistles #burning thistles #burning thistles au #bt!frostfur #frostfur analysis #character analysis #anon ask #asked and answered #frostfur hater anon

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How are some of the Starclan cats taking Spottedleaf's death? Like cats who were close to her such as her parents, Redtail, Bluestar, Copperleaf, and Cricketheart?

Cats like Redtail, Bluestar, Lionheart, Adderfang, Swiftbreeze, Featherwhisker, etc.: Sad, but happy to see her mostly

Cats like Cricketheart, Lynxpaw, etc.: Distant sadness, not sure what to think of the whole Afterlife and Death concept yet, plus not overly close to Spottedleaf to be saddened by her passing

Cats like Copperleaf, etc.: Sad and deeply upset surrounding the circumstances

Cats like Silverstream: "...It was an accident. I don't see why everyone's so upset about Lightningfur's behavior. This is just the life of a warrior. So what, it was fine when Lionheart accidentally killed Whitefang, but not when Lightningfur accidentally killed Spottedleaf? Of course she didn't mean to kill her mother! She loved her mom. Can't you see how upset and broken she is about it?"

#lolling response #spottedleaf's death #the countdown #chapter 167 #starclan #starclan cats #silverstream #lightningfur #silverlightning #spottedleaf #redtail #cricketheart #lynxpaw #copperleaf #burning thistles #burning thistles au #asked and answered #buttbag-mcbutts

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RIP Copperleaf you were the man. Cheers to the best leader there never was

"Cheers to the best leader there never was"

tear my heart in two why dontcha </3

Lionheart is proud

#they both died at the paws of shadowclan #lolling response #seriously this art is so cool tho #copperleaf #bring the lion out #chapter 161 #the countdown #bt war era #the lion #copperclan #bt fanart #asked and answerd #limonadedreamings

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Pride icon anon again, would you mind making a (no/minimal spoilers) list of the identities? I'll definitely do the suggested characters, but I'd love to do more than them. That even included the bad characters (including the likes of Thistlestar himself)

Here you go! This is ripped straight from our spreadsheet of the characters. No spoiler characters though!:

Firestar Bisexual

Sandstorm Bisexual

Lightningfur AroAce-spec Lesbian

Fury Lesbian

Copperleaf Demiromantic Panromantic

Dawncloud Graysexual

Creekflower Heterosexual

Oliver Heterosexual

Longtail Heterosexual

Airleap Transmasc Intersex Queer-Questioning

Cinderpelt Bisexual

Lizardflight Lesbian

Elderpaw Transfem Demigirl Lesbian

Mistlepaw Butch Lesbian

Cliffpaw Polyamorus Omnisexual

Snowpaw Heterosexual

Onewhisker Omnisexual

Frostfur (Comp) Omnisexual

Redtail Gay

Runningwind Gay

Lionheart Pansexual

Tigerstar Bisexual

Whitestorm Heterosexual

Brindleface Aromantic

Swiftbreeze Aromantic

Adderfang (Closeted) Femboy Heterosexual

Spottedleaf (Closeted) Lesbian

Thistlestar (Comp) Bisexual

Grasswhisker (Closeted) Asexual

Bubbles Genderfluid Trixic

Rocket Nonbinary Demiboy

Opal Nonbinary Demigirl

Oat Gay/Aromantic

Sootkit Transmasc

Ravenwing Demiromantic Gay

Barley Gay

Feathercloud Gay

Brackenfur Heterosexual

Sorrelkit Bisexual

Stormpaw Bisexual

Rowanpaw Trans Masc

Tawnypaw Heterosexual

Bramblepaw Demiromantic Demisexual

Tulippaw Gay

Missingheart Pansexual

Blossomtail Gay

Badgerfang Gay

Swampfur Bisexual

Lynxpaw Demiromantic Asexual

Cherryfur Abrosexual

Darkstripe Gay Bi-Curious Femboy

Graystripe Heterosexual/Gynesexual

Silverstream Heterosexual

Gremlin Bisexual Nonbinary She-cat

Scraps Pansexual

Night Pansexual

Storm Asexual Gay

Scourge Aromantic Nonbinary Tom

Tallpoppy Polyamorus Pansexual

#lolling response #lgbtq+ #anon ask #burning thistles #gender identities #sexualities #romantic orientations #pride #pride flags #pride anon #asked and answered