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burning-thistles-bt · 1 month
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woah i just realized there's technically only 8 chapters left of BT's main arc and then it's done. and then it's 20+ chapters of the extra SkyClan arc
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cinematicsstuff · 2 years
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If the final result of the prequels were heavily criticized, damn, behind the scenes they looked like they were having so much fun.
We really feel through videos and pictures that the producers and George Lucas have created a safe and caring environment.
And I imagine that's pretty valuable in Hollywood.
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incorrect-hs-quotes · 2 years
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Mod Jade is correct, big shot is good but megalovania is iconic
Just because it's iconic doesn't mean it's great, like the Beatles
-Mod Terezi
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basket-of-loquats · 2 years
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so crawl on my belly til the sun goes down/i'll never wear your broken crown/i took the road and i fucked it all the way/now in this twilight, how dare you speak of grace? 
[Image description: a digital drawing of Anakin Skywalker from the Star Wars franchise. He is visible from the shoulders up, wearing his outfit from Revenge of the Sith. He glares, his expression a mix of fury and desperation, and tears streak down his face. A golden-orange light shines down on him. A small, minimalist crown hovers above his head, shattered in several places. The background is a gradient orange to dark red. End ID.]
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toastlyeggs · 2 years
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oh so is that why the bts stans are called army
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girlbossblackbeard · 9 months
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THOUGHTS AND LAYERS
i spent literally an hour analyzing this trailer at 0.5 speed. this post is long af and these thoughts are in no particular order and are poorly organized:
-there's a big storm (which I think was already confirmed), and ed gets swept overboard by a bucket on a rope:
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he then crawls up out of the water onto the beach
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then goes into the forest, creates a hut, has a journey of healing and self-discovery, meets hornigold (or his ghost??)
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and kills him thus killing the part of himself that he hated the most (his violence) as a parallel to stede finally getting rid of nigel's ghost by accepting and believing in himself
-in the stede/ed split screen, the stede shot is from the first ep of s2 right after stede finds the marooned crew at the end of ep 10 in s1 (you can tell bc his hair and clothes are still clean, there's no gay bandana around his neck, and that's his lil dinghy buttons is rowing)
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-they go to shore and wind up at the merchants shop where "susan" overhears they're tracking down blackbeard
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and she invites stede's crew onto her ship, cue the outfit change in the BTS photos:
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-the way stede makes that little swishy turn in the red coat -
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makes me think this may be first time he's been in fine clothes since his "death" and i hope we get a moment of him reflecting on how he gave up everything for ed only to have him hate him :( but then obviously realizing that ed is worth it and he'd do it all again in a heartbeat if it meant getting a chance at spending the rest of his life with him
-izzy and stede team up, and izzy is clearly training either himself or stede on the revenge (?)
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soooooo many questions: what caused him to leave ed and join stede's crew? is he fighting with ed and is training to take him out or is he just done having his love be unrequited so he leaves and just so happens to stumble into stede? is izzy thinking that if he can't cut out the longing he has for ed he has to kill him instead so the pain will go away? what, pray tell, the fuck is going on in here on this day
-wee john in the mermaid costume (and olu in a bunny or donkey costume?):
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a fuckery? or just a weird acid trip? OR IS IT THE TALENT SHOW THEY NEVER GOT TO HAVE??
-ed really does force everyone on his crew to wear war paint
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-all the tally marks scratched into the walls - is that the number of days since stede bonnet broke ed's heart?
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-ed in the forest in PEARL NECKLACE HELLOW????????
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-the tear in ed's eye as he moves the cake toppers closer together which he also painted to make the lady look more like him he literlaly is in love wiht stede so bad wht the FUCJ
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-ed's crew is murdering SO MANY PEOPLE at the wedding wtf (pic not included bc scary)
-delusional moment but i hope anne bonny on stede's lap is looking at calico jack off screen
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-stede and ed are running towards each other on the black sand beach (thank you @sluterastede for pointing this out to me wtf!!!!!!)
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which evolves my theory that ed in the forest goes through his healing journey and realizes he wants to openly love stede again but then the navy attack and stede just so happens to have found ed at the same time and they're fighting to get to each other and taking out everyone in their way (what if that was okracoke lmao)
-the swede and spanish jackie hooking up in the trailer
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makes me think the bts shot of ed and jackie is them looking at stede and the swede, and ed being SO in love with stede obvi but jackie is watching the swede do some weirdly hot shit so she's gotta have him (what if they got married and he became her umpteenth husband in a drunken vegas-like shotgun wedding where she wakes up the next day to realize what has happened lmao)
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-also this pic is DEF from the reunited/make up era bc ed's half-up hair, no makeup, soft eyes, and buttons' clothing. i am weeping
-stede in pain - is it an injury or a tattoo? or torture as @sluterastede posits?? he looks down at his lower body before screaming so maybe he knows what's about to happen to him??
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-ed in the forest wearing the pearl necklace (see above), ed saying "fuck you stede bonnet" wearing the pearl necklace (see below)
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does he pick it up at the wedding??? (theory credit to @sluterastede!!!! can u tell we watched the trailer together 400 times) i can't tell if he's wearing it in the one wide shot of him in that scene:
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but regardless of when he acquires it, does he take it bc he remembers stede said he wears fine things well???? and he starts to believe he may deserve them??
-side note about a LACK of something: ed isn't wearing the cravat at all in the trailer near as i can tell, and he's not wearing the pearl necklace when throwing knives at the wall (at least from what I can see, which is not much) which leads me to believe that scene is in the earlier part of the season
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-lastly, the most important song lyrics from the trailer (the beautiful ones by prince):
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and that's my dissertation on the ofmd season 2 teaser trailer thank you
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alonetimelover · 11 months
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pairing: Harry Styles x equestrian!reader
fc: Jessica Springsteen
summary: in which harry needed to learn how to ride a horse for his daylight music video
a/n: thank you to the anon that requested equestrian!reader
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harryupdates
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harryupdates HARRY SPOTTED FILMING SOMETHING IN ATLANTA!!!!!!!!
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hArrysbtch NO FUCKING WAY
hArrysbtch WHAT IS HAPPENING
harrysmoustache STOP whatever you're doing, just STOP
harrysmylife King is back
harryshoee this is for daylight, i'm telling you!
⤷ stylesbabie didn't he film sth with james?
⤷ harryshoee i think it was only for the show and not the original music video. at least I hope so!!!
harrybestie phoebe is that you?
harryno1fan he has a strange mind...
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yourinstagram
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yourinstagram Olympics are no more for us, so Don Juan joined a circus!
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hArrysbtch ill recognise that bitch anywhere!!!!
harryshoee ariana what are you doing here?????
harryupdates 👀
user49 hello, why are "Olympics no more"?
⤷ yourinstagram hiii! jumping has been removed from Olympics because of an incident that happened during one of the competitions.
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harryupdates
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harrysupdates HARRY FOLLOWED YN YSN ON IG AND TWITTER! he liked all of her photos and commented on the last 10!
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harryupdates YN YSN is equestrian that won silver medal at the 2020 Olympics! she also is rumoured to be involved in harry's daylight music video!!
hArrysbtch nah, that bitch is gone!
harrysmoustache he's taken?!
harrysmylife maaaaan, he in love
stylesbabie oh she so posted a picture of harry on her ig then
harryshoee we're the same. I've done the same to her profile. I love her too
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harrylisbon
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harrylisbon WTHAJDKOW GUYS!!!! HARRY JUST PLAYED THIS DURING DAYLIGHT!!!!!
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harryupdates what is going on?????
hArrysbtch what if he drops ot during the final show????
harryshoee im losing my shit rn
stylesbabie im seeing him in Rome, he better played it in the background!!!!
harrysmoustache screaming crying throwing up
harrysfan82 I died dead
harrysfan03 i lost the idgaf war....
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harryupdates
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harryupdates DAYLIGHT MV 19th JULY 5PM UK
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harryupdates guess what? im not sleeping again tonight!
hArrysbtch excuse me, i have heart problems
harrysmoustache yellow bird supremacy!!!!!
yourinstagram 🏇🏻🏇🏻🏇🏻
⤷ hArrysbtch what you mean???????
⤷ harrysmylife yn, tell me you're involved!
⤷ yourinstagram 🤫
harrysmylife he's in his taylor era
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harrystyles
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harrystyles DAYLIGHT MV just for you, H xx yourinstagram
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yourinstagram Don Juan looks magnificent!
⤷ harrystyles what about me?
⤷ yourinstagram we still need to work on your posture
⤷ harrystyles yes, ma'am
⤷ hArrysbtch WTF, he knows how to comment?????
harryupdates that's your best video to date
harrysmylife he can ride??? what can't he do??
annetwist Proud ❤️
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harryupdates
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harryupdates "She was the first choice from the moment the idea popped in my head. I couldn't be happier about it. She's the best." HARRY ON WORKING WITH YN IN DAYLIGHT MUSIC VIDEO BTS
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hArrysbtch he in love
harrysmoustache HE BLUSHED SO HARD!!!!!
harryshoee the clips of the laughing together??????
harrysmylife and and and the way he looks at her
harrysfan94 but the clip when yn's doing all the jumping and all??? she's sooo good. couldn't harry just have her starring in the mv?
⤷ yourinstagram yeah, harrystyles?
⤷ harrystyles there is this version...
⤷ hArrysbtch WHAT
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yourinstagram
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yourinstagram THE Don Juan and some indie singer on their first lesson
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harrystyles the star 🐎
harryupdates the shade???
stylesbabie uhhh, they so together
harryshoee do you give lessons to ordinary people?
⤷ yourinstagram during the summer when there's no competition I'm holding a camp. you can enrol with the link in my bio!
⤷ user92 be careful, it's expensive as hell!
⤷ yourinstagram well, we do not take any money from our pupils. we ask for food or money (however much you want) donation! hope that helps, x
harrysmoustache oh, I'm so in love with them
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harryupdates YN AND HARRY SPOTTED HORSE RIDING OUTSIDE OF LONDON!
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hArrysbtch oh so we know what he's going to do during the break
harrysmylife 😭that's😭so😭sweet😭
stylesbabie he looks so cute in his little outfit
harryshoee SAVE A HORSE RIDE A COWBOY
harrysmyman unholy thought, unholy
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yourinstagram ❤️❤️❤️
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harrystyles congratulations, darling.
commemt liked by yourinstagram and 68 302 others
harryupdates the support
hArrysbtch we haven't heard from him in months
⤷ harrysmoustache and we've got a prize today for waiting patiently
stylesbabie everyone say: THANK YOU, YN
harrysmylife and everything started because this man has a mind strange enough to start a circus...
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yibocheeks · 2 months
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Translated excerpts from the War of Faith livestream interview of the cast
Each of the cast members are asked to bring something which represents their character. Yibo brings an abacus pin, to represent one of Wei Ruolai's talents.
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Wang Yang brings the fountain pen that he used on set, because his character has to sign a lot of important documents with this pen, and, "More importantly, during the scene when the disciple bows to his mentor, this is a very very important gift."
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MC: There was a trending search before that said, "In War of Faith, the male and female leads do not really have any development of (romantic) feelings, they are all focused on their careers." Did you see this? Li Qin: I think that there can be many different types of feelings. And also, when the director had introduced the character to me, he wanted to showcase what a woman's thoughts and dilemmas might be in that era, that this would be more meaningful and more interesting. So...it is up to the audience's imagination. MC: So how would you describe the relationship between Wei Ruolai and Shen Jinzhen? Li Qin: They are comrades in revolution, and she is also the one who guides him on his path of changing ideologies.
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The cast plays a game (near the end of the interview), where they point out who they believe fits the prompt.
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Which actor is the most active -> Yibo MC: Yibo, why do you think everyone says you're the most active? Yibo: Then you'll have to ask everyone (MC prompts Li Qin) Li Qin: Because if you watch the bts you'll know. Like when he slides down the stair railings, it's rather unexpected.
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Who do netizens call the Red Wolf (character from the cartoon Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf) -> Li Qin Li Qin: I don't know why everyone gave me this nickname (MC prompts Wang Yang) Wang Yang: Because she has a red dress, and sometimes she has a serious expression like a big wolf MC: Because she can be very serious when she's facing her enemies
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Who laughs the most easily -> Li Qin Li Qin: The trio from the Central Bank are together on this, they're ganging up together (MC prompts Yibo) Yibo: She has a lot of scenes where she ends up laughing in the middle MC: She's very cheerful? Yibo: Yes...she doesn't realize herself Li Qin: My brother (Wang Yang) laughs a lot in the middle of filming, don't you see this in the bts? Wang Yang: I very rarely do, this happened once with Gao Lu. The rest, really, you laugh very easily on set. And when she laughs, she easily makes the rest of us laugh. Her behaviour is very cute. MC: That means, Qin Qin, you bring a lot of joy to the set Li Qin: They've already started, if not for Yang-ge today, they probably wouldn't gang up like this
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Who is the most different from their character -> Li Qin and Wang Yang (2 votes each, then Wang Xueqi adds his vote for Li Qin) (MC asks Yibo why he picked Li Qin) Yibo: Because like we just said she usually...*looks down thinking* MC: Her joyful times? Yibo: Yes, but her role needs to be very serious, so there is quite a difference (MC asks Song Shuai why he picked Wang Yang) Song Shuai: Maybe because Shen Tunan is very serious and solemn. Usually Wang Yang is like a big youth in his spare time, so he leads us along Wang Yang: Because they are all young, and I have to bring up the mood on set. Because Yibo is quite shy, so I do this so that everyone can work together in a cheerful environment Lan Xiya: When Wang Yang-laoshi is on set, he's very amicable Wang Yang: Call me Yang-ge, don't call me Wang Yang-laoshi Lan Xiya: Wang Yang-ge...sounds so awkward (laughs) Wang Yang-ge, he's very amicable and leads us with his energy Wang Yang: Do you not agree (to Li Qin) Li Qin: I completely agree, I think they are very fair/unbiased
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Who's the best at taking action -> Yibo and Wang Xueqi (2 votes each) (MC asks Li Qin why she picked Yibo) Li Qin: Because as you just watched, like when he plays games, he's very good, he's a quick learner and has a quick reaction time
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Whose character would you want to be if you could choose anyone? MC: Secretary Huang chose Ruolai immediately without hesitation Wang Yang points at Song Shuai and MC asks: You want to be your own secretary? Wang Yang: I want to be like him so I can compete with Ruolai MC: So you think if it was you then things might not turn out the same Wang Yang: Definitely, at least I wouldn't waste my time being jealous MC asks Yibo who he would pick and Yibo says: I think Ruolai is pretty good
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wildfloweronwheels · 7 months
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I keep seeing all these year of Midnights posts (rightfully) celebrating the album and all I can think about is how much has happened since then.
anti-hero music video
bejewelled music video
tour announcement
tickets war™️ (USA & international)
33rd birthday
atw short film bts
directors on directors
a taylor-directed feature
anti-hero at the 1975
robbed of SOTY at the Grammys
lavender haze
all of the girls you loved before
eras tour
cruel summer finally getting her crown
it’s joever
i’m new york city bitch
matty horrors but he lets her bejewelled
studio exorcisms
karma ft ice spice
karma music video
you’re losing me
hits different on streaming
speak now tv
backflip seen round the world
the one with the friendship bracelet
i can see you music video
not even to dinner with the kushners tour edition (Karlie at eras)
1989 tv announcement
single girl summer
eras tour movie announcement
oh wait there’s a hot footballer incoming
seemingly ranch
let’s go to the game ft. hugh jackman???
more football
eras tour movie
snl hard launch
and that’s what you missed on glee!
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olderthannetfic · 8 months
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Opinion on the comments in some of the the @ao3topshipsbracket polls: a wildly popular ship is not the same as one that had an actual impact on fandom history. Most popular ships have little to no impact outside their own fandom. Which isn’t to say that ships can’t have impact on their own fandom history, just that they don’t have much impact on general fandom history as a whole.
I understand that the polls aren’t actually measuring fandom history but this got me thinking about what has actually and I think these are the ones:
Spirk - origin of slash fandom shipping and laid the groundwork for fandom/shipping in general
MSR - responsible for the term ‘shipping’ and was the driving force behind the beginning of fandom/shipping on the internet and the creation of fanfiction.net
BTVS - (unfortunately) gave rise to the idea of being ‘anti’ something and ship wars
Harry Potter - most affected fandom on livejournal by the censorship which led to the creation of ao3
Thoughts? I couldn’t think of another fandom/ship that has huge impacts outside of their own fandom.
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Strikethrough made people more eager for AO3, but the original inspiration was a for-profit fic archive made by venture capitalists.
The X-Files' big archive was Gossamer. Was MSR really influential in the creation of FFN? I don't remember that.
What ships have a big impact really depends on era and how you're looking at things. K/S and MSR are the obvious ones from long after the fact, yes.
Starsky/Hutch was what really split Media Fandom from literary SF fandom. Star Trek started the split, but it was people getting into a buddy cop show that made it clear that fanfic zine types weren't just about science fiction anymore, not even "mass media" SF in place of book SF.
Bodie/Doyle was the moment people stopped being media fans and started being Slash Fandom specifically. The US fandom had barely even seen the show: they were there for the slash zines.
Jim/Blair fandom gave us sentinel/guide AUs. The Sentinel as a canon sure as fuck didn't.
Ranma fandom set the pattern for every dumb "which girl will he end up with?" fight in anime fandom forever after.
IDK if we can blame 1x2 as opposed to Gundam Wing fandom for inspiring people to many other incomprehensible math equation ships in every anime fandom with dumb number names.
Popslash popped a bunch of prudes' RPF cherries, then LOTRiPS did, then J2 did, then hockey did, then BTS did.
Free! and then Yuri on Ice started the long slide from anime fandoms mostly refusing to leave FFN to newer anime fandoms being on AO3. YOI also lured a lot of people into anime for the first time.
Wangxian got a bunch of "Ewww, no anime ever! Western fandoms 5eva!" people into Asian fandoms at long last. (Whether this was a good thing is a matter of opinion. Hahaha.)
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I really think it depends on frame of reference.
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burning-thistles-bt · 14 days
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Next chapter is up!
this is the one in which Tigerstar realizes he's effed up <3
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isagrimorie · 1 month
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I listened to the All Access Trek Podcast. Laurie Ulster said something that piqued my curiosity. Laurie mentioned that the writers of season 5 of Discovery want to be more connected to the larger Trek universe.
Then, Laurie and Anthony Pascal noted how different this attitude was from the early seasons of Discovery. Both Laurie and Anthony were involved in and around Trek productions, and Laurie herself was a host of After Trek (back when it existed).
Laurie mentioned that in season 1 of Discovery, studio executives would freak out if other Trek properties (specifically 90s Trek) were mentioned or alluded to. The TOS era is allowed, but it seems anything related to 90s-era Trek was not allowed.
And, it’s all because Star Trek Nemesis flopped big time.
(According to Jonathan Frakes he was told that Nemesis was the one that actually lost money.)
The effects of Star Trek Nemesis’s flop were so wide-ranging it almost killed the franchise. A few years later, they canceled Enterprise and any upcoming Trek live-action projects.
Nemesis is to blame for why neither Deep Space Nine nor Voyager had a live-action movie.
According to BTS reports and what the TNG actors have mentioned, Nemesis was a troubled production from the start. It got worse when the director, Stuart Baird, didn’t even care to know the actors’ names (famously mispronouncing LeVar Burton’s name). Additionally, he never bothered to watch a single episode of TNG. Marina Sirtis and LeVar Burton have been outspoken about how much they dislike Nemesis and the director (more from Marina on this).
(Both Marina and Gates McFadden weren’t fond of the other TNG era movies either, especially Gates because she was little more than a cameo in the movies.)
After Nemesis flopped it took years for Star Trek to return, and after that, there seemed to be a mandate from the studio to never mention 90s Trek.
This is why Star Trek: Picard was such a big deal, especially since it directly references events from Nemesis.
(And, an even bigger deal for Picard Season 3 reunion getting produced.)
The Nemesis effect continues to have an impact on the movie side of the franchise. The majority of announced projects take place in the pre-TOS era, TOS era, or the Kelvin timeline but there are no projects set during or after the 90s-era Trek.
This is why mentioning a ship class called Janeway was big but even bigger, showing Picard and directly referencing to the Dominion War and Deep Space Nine and Discovery is a big deal.
Anyway, I just wanted to mention all this because it baffled me why the executives were so into TOS-era trek and there seemed to be no interest for 90s-era Trek. And, learning about all this finally answered all my questions.
TLDR, I like TOS era but I’m not into the TOS-era and I enjoy the Kelvin timeline as much as anyone else but it is not the era of Trek I’m interested in. So the movies set all TOS or Pre-TOS era— its just not something I’m going to jump around about.
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sageistrii · 2 months
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Can you please help me with understanding some points?
Today I saw a viminer that was clearly a Jimin anti and I’m so pissed that people claim to stan him just for a clout or because they believe in certain narrative that they have made up by themselves.
Their behaviour is truly hypocritical - she said Jimin has always been careful about lgbt community and v has been always loud about it - “Taehyung gifted Jimin “woman” clothes, so he started accepting himself”. But she never mentions that Jimin called out V for saying that man shouldn’t check selfies, called out members saying that he didnt get why they are so upset about wearing dresses.
But when in one ask someone said that V was being controversial about lgbt - “he called out Jimin for liking man, laughing at his attitude to Jungkook” that girl defended him🤡 like V has always been supportive more than Jimin
Tell me am I right or wrong? Do we have a masterpost about Jimin supporting lgbt or should we make one?
Ok I get this, and it's not like we can ever expect these people to paint him in a good light. The funny thing about how stans use idols or celebs in general talking about or engaging with queer media as proof that they're queer is funny because when you look at someone who's obsessed with queer media or at least wants us to think that they are, it's the straightest person ever. Enjoying a certain type of media doesn't mean you're part of that community, most times queer people engage with and consume straight media more, it doesn't make them less queer.
And I don't understand why we have to prove that Jimin supports LGBTQ.. is he getting an award for his support or does his support cause any significant change in the community?
Also if you ask the average kpop Stan who isn't an army that can't stand the idea of Tae with a woman so they try to convince themselves he's gay because he posted about a wong Kai war movie, to list 10 idols they think could be queer or idols who have helped to break gender stereotypes, Jimin will be the only BTS member on that list.
It reminds me of how armys diagnosed jk as autistic and call him "babygirl" when he would never be the first Idol anyone would think of when they hear the term "babygirl", also how years ago armys and Taehyung stans swore Tae was "unique" because he acted "weird". Everyone wants their fave to be "not like the others", stans and their neverending quest to prove that idols are queer or autistic because they think it makes them unique or because they want to see themselves so bad in the idol even if that idol is anything but.
I think we are past the era when we think someone is gay because they post about gay media. Most BL fans are literally straight women. I'm attracted to women and I consume more straight and mlm media than wlw, it doesn't change my sexuality.
A lot of people think Jimin is queer for reasons that are deeper than these.
Until a few years ago when certain BTS members discovered what the fans wanted to see and what was accepted by their international fanbase, they would literally say the most insensitive things to Jimin about his masculinity, Tae included. That man discovered that fans eat these things up and he's not looked back ever since.
Like I'm not accusing anyone of anything but I just don't think Tae is as close as he is with those wooga squad men and then he's actually queer, or that he could even push anyone to self acceptance. That's like the ultimate "bro club", they are misogynistic and I've heard homophobic too (although I don't know how true that is, I think people just say they are because they give that vibe and I get it). If he's actually queer and oh so forward thinking then being friends with people like that isn't a sign of self acceptance at all in my opinion or maybe wooga squad members are good people in private lol.
I don't think anyone should be making a post to prove that Jimin supports the queer community because he's the last idol that needs that defense.
Jimin has been subjected to homophobi* and transphobi* for years because he's always been himself but of course Tae is more progressive simply because he watched a gay Netflix movie and posted about it on Instagram 😭
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beautifulpersonpeach · 4 months
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I’m relatively new to the fandom and have really enjoyed a lot of your posts… I have a question that I couldn’t quickly find an answer to in searching through your tags…
What’s the deal with streaming? Like, I listen to BTS. I enjoy them a lot, I listen to a pretty even mix of all their albums though I probably like MOTS:7 era the best). Some days I listen to them like all day lol (if I’m cleaning the house or something) and I listen to them a lot in the car or while working. I’ve enjoyed some solo releases more than others so I naturally streamed those more. but like the more I start following accounts on here and on army twt the more confused I get about the intense pressure to stream constantly? I’ve heard that people play certain songs (or albums I guess?) on repeat on mute and/or have dedicated streaming devices they keep going all the time.
Not to be negative or rude at all but like…what? Maybe because I’m new to KPop and have never followed it until BTS but that just sounds so weird and… idk the word, maybe disingenuous? Again I do not mean this as an attack I am just genuinely confused. Wouldn’t BTS themselves want us only to listen if we were actually enjoying it and not out of some competitive attempt to get better ratings? It feels so odd to me, like that is not how I would behave with any other artist that I love. I would only ever listen to them out of a genuine desire to hear their music. But there seems to be so much weird shaming out there for when/if songs are not streamed heavily enough? And for any other artist I would just write that off as a difference in taste among the fandom, but here it’s treated like a personal wrong against the artist…?
But as I say that I’m sure there’s more to it… I have definitely seen people talking about payola or chart manipulation so idk. If I should google this instead, just tell me to, I just have already tried and didn’t find that much clarity, just a bunch of people on quora and Reddit talking about certain songs not getting streamed enough.
Anyways this is super long, sorry if it annoys you. Just thought you seemed knowledgeable and levelheaded enough to ask? Love your posts. All the best.
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Okay wait I’m the anon that just asked about streaming and I went and re-read your post about “inorganic success” — I had read it before but somehow I didn’t put together that the 24-7 streaming is an attempt to combat payola or like go up against it I guess. Okay. That makes more sense. I still feel like there’s a weird focus on charting but I guess if it’s about getting more concert venues and more radio play it makes sense.
You can ignore my last ask then I’m sorry if I’m being dense or something lol.
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You haven’t at all asked a stupid question. Your confusion is easily explained by you being new to k-pop, and everyone new to this madhouse asks this question eventually. I’ve talked about this before, but can’t find the post for the life of me so I’ll briefly go over it again.
First, you need to understand what k-pop is. K-pop is a system that gamifies music consumption. Competition is something you’ll see in the music industry regardless. Western stans such as Arianators, Barbz, and the Beyhive have organized around streaming goals and efforts for at least 10 years now. But there’s no other music industry that explicitly emphasizes competition among groups and fans, the way the k-pop industry does.
Competition is baked into its DNA:
From the idol training system under agencies with supposed specialities that are treated like warring houses a la Game of Thrones (a mentality created by the Big 3),
to the music shows where fans are encouraged to vote daily and weekly for the best artists and where wins are tied to streaming numbers,
to the highly publicized year-end award show criteria that outline key metrics for wins in streams, sales, and fan votes.
Basically, the k-pop industry creates a clear hierarchy of talent and acclaim for artists in their system, directly stokes fan participation in buying into that hierarchy, and the numbers are the easiest litmus test/short cut to settle the question of who is at the top.
And all of this is served with a cocktail of parasocial delusion and entitlement that has (more easily manipulated) fans thinking their perceived investment into their faves, earns them the right to micromanage their fave idols’ careers. All of this benefits the labels and industry because they’d rather have you more engaged (even if toxically), than not.
Everybody here buys into this system despite what they’ll tell you, some just manage to keep their wits and perspective to prevent getting sucked in, while others fall headfirst into it.
And so, like I said in my ‘inorganic success’ post you referenced, the focus on streaming is part of fans really just playing the game. Excess is something you’ll see on the charts in any case, whether in k-pop or in the West.
The difference with BTS and ARMYs however, is in the why of how the fandom streams. Essentially, you’re more likely to find people just as passionate about the music itself as they are about giving that music its due in hard numbers and consequently, recognition. You’re more likely to find fans like this in the ARMY fandom, than any other, in my opinion. Some people forget that the og ARMYs were k-pop fans first. They were fans who intimately understood how this system worked, they understood why the Big3 maintained dominance in k-pop for literal decades, and they saw the worth in the music BTS made, loved it enough to invest time into the playing the game better than anyone else at the time - pushing BTS from nugu status to where they are now, competing well outside the realm of the k-pop system but in a space that remains complex and highly competitive.
Another aspect that differentiates how ARMYs stream vs other k-pop fandoms, is that due to the sheer size of the fandom in absolute numbers, the average ARMY typically streams less than a typical k-pop stan. Basically, in other fandoms the typical stan has to stream more per person to have even a fraction of the gains seen in the ARMY fandom. ARMYs also aren’t doing anything other fandoms aren’t doing, it’s just that so far, they’re more efficient at it and don’t have to worry too much because BTS makes music that keeps attracting more fans, adding to the size of the fandom. They’ve also generally stayed away from more illegal methods given the intense scrutiny and animosity the fandom has faced for being part of the reason BTS upended the ordained hierarchy in this space. It sounds silly but it’s true.
But that’s only one side of the story. The other side is that in the fandom, everybody here really just does what they want. And many people genuinely enjoy listening to BTS that much and that intensely. Going by personal experience in what I observed before I became ARMY, I noticed that many ARMYs are Type A and organized - people who like and study data. The first time in my life that I saw someone create a spreadsheet for fan theories on a k-pop MV, was when an ARMY made one for I NEED U MV. I’m not sure what it is about BTS, but from the beginning they’ve attracted the sort of fans who genuinely enjoy listening to music often, people who enjoy creating and playing around with playlists, and people who track and measure applicable data. So your assumption that the people who stream like this are people who don’t actually enjoy the music, is wrong. In my opinion. For a lot of ARMYs, streaming and appreciating the music isn’t mutually exclusive.
Personally, I listen to music a lot. And I’ve always been that way, so when I became ARMY, I just sort of naturally fit into that culture. The sort of music BTS makes is a joy to listen to, I play their stuff literally everyday and it feels like the most normal thing in the world for me to sleep to Serendipity sometimes (in my sleep playlist which includes brown noise and rain sounds), or to do laundry to Let Me Know playing, or to drive to UGH and Set Me Free Pt 2 playing. I have multiple accounts because I listen to all kinds of music all the time, and it’s just convenient for me to have things set up such that I can flip on a playlist in every situation I’d want one on.
But like I said, the reality is that everyone in this fandom does what they want. It’s true there are certain people in the fandom who obsess over streaming, these are typically chartmys and akgaes, but most other people stream however they like. Fandom in general is a pressure cooker environment so I don’t blame you for noticing that pressure, but at the end of the day you really should just do what makes the most sense to you.
ARMYs generally recognize the reality of the space they are in, they recognize what it means for BTS, and most simply tweak their normal listening habits to maximize the gain and support to BTS. Plus sometimes it’s fun to play into fandom’s initiatives as a way to connect with other fans (such as in streaming parties).
I ended up rambling but let me know if this answered your question.
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12 am anon here. okay so uh we havent talked about it cause i rly dunno how to tell them “yeah i think ur rly cute and i love it when you ramble abt the things you like and sometimes i do wanna kiss u” . anyways what songs do u think are dick grayson coded
personally some that come to mind are surface pressure from encanto, bad idea right and brutal by olivia rodrigo, and nerves by dpr ian. spring day by bts specifically when it comes to donna and wally and all his other dead loved ones
*older post I'm getting to now, 12 am anon and girlfriend are happily together, I just needed time to collate a list*
But that aside, you are literally the cutest. You make me so happy every time ;)
Surface Pressure, Bad Idea Right, and Brutal are all spot on!
I'd never heard Nerves before but now I've listened to it on repeat
Spring Day (eng ver) hadn't even entered my mind but now it won't get out.
Honestly all of Taylor Swift's and Olivia Rorigo's songs match Dick so perfectly
Orange are feel goods/exciting/dramatic story creation types
Blacks are sad/meloncholy/reflection songs about the darker side
I guess this is a Dick Grayson playlist.
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Come Hang Out by AJR - The Titans with Dick
You're Gonna Go Far Kid by The Offspring - self-explanatory.
Warriors of the Mind
You're on your own kid
This kpop song (anon knows, you might too)
My Version of You by Beth Crowley - reminded me of Tim and Dick's relationship when they fought during Dick's Batman era
Stop you're losing me by Taylor Swift - matches Dick fighting with Bruce
Unstoppable by Sia - reminds me of how the entire Superhero community relies on Dick and how he reacts in response
Let the Games Begin by AJR - is Dick constantly acting and ready for attention. Dick dealing with Gotham high society
Whatever It Takes by Imagine Dragons - embodies him in his entirety. If there's one song that defines him, it's this for me.
Toxic Thoughts by Faith Marie - Him struggling with his insecurities of breaking his own records
Welcome to the Show by Britt Nicole - Robin Dick being a little psycho and taking his team on an adventure
The First One by Astrid S - careful. It's about Nightwing (1996) Issue #134. Not sure if it can be considered canon or not, it's a gray area for me
Leader of the Landslide by The Lumineers - Basically Dick's reaction to Bruce abandoning him with all the kids and him being protective of them. Relates to Gotham War most clearly but always
Fire by Gavin Degraw - Dick's bamfness and journey
Christmas Kids by Roar - Here comes Bruce's messed up attachment issues to Dick
Million to One by Camila Cabello - Dick's perfectionist issues and dreams of being greater
If You Go Down ( I'm Going Down Too) by Kelsea Ballerini - Dick and Donna's ride or die relationship.
Don't Think Just Run by Beth Crowley - Dick, leadership, and the superheroes' reliance on him
Labour - Dick hypothically getting tired of Bruce dumping every single thing on him
Panic Room by Au/Ra - Scarecrow telling Dick in Knight Terrors that his fear may be the scariest fear of them all. I'm just imagining everyone getting trapped in Dick's head and being forced to face his fear. That would be such a fun story to write.
Rise by Katy Perry - Dick will always overcome and thrive.
Edge of Glory by Lady Gaga - Dick with the Titans just as they score a major victory
Human by Christina Perri - Dick asking for a reprieve (in his head)
Human by Krewlla - Same but sadder
Dress by Charlotte Sands - Other people falling in love with Dick
Gold Rush by Taylor Swift - How other people fall in love wiht Dick told through the eyes of Barbara or Kori
Heart of Stone by Six the Musical - Dick's unwavering love for Bruce
Achilles Come Down by Gang of Youths - Dick is Achilles.
Geronimo by Sheppard - Silver Age Teen Titans era except it's all of them.
Circus by Britney Spears - C'mon. He's performer born for the spotlight.
Je vole by Louane - Dick's message to Bruce about him leaving
Je vais t'aimer by Louane - The intensity of Dick's love that sometimes leaves his lovers entralled, breathless, and scared.
Location by AJR - Dick reaching out to someone (not necessarily romantic)
Bird Set Free by Sia - Dick lives for himself and his morals. He lives for peace.
She Sets the City on Fire by Gavin Degraw - Other people's point of view of Dick
Dark Paradise by Lana Del Rey - Dick's grief and mourning for Bruce's passing
Wonderland by Taylor Swift - Roy and Dick's relationship
Head Above the Water by Avril Lavigne - Dick being the superhero community's rock and leadership.
Nightmare by Halsey - Dick's a little wild but that's the reason he's still alive. This is just him going after Blockbuster.
Graveyard by Halsey - Dick literally keeping Bruce from destroying himself
The Phoenix by Fall Out Boy - Just Dick raising super powered team after team and yanking everyone onto their feet
Pompeii by Bastille - Dick's perspective after the bombing of Bludhaven
The entire sour album by Olivia Rodigro - To describe Dick and Bruce after Bruce fired him
Troublemaker by Olly Murs - How literally none of his exes can let him go
Issues by Julia Michaels - Dick and Kori's relationship
See You Again by Wiz Khalifa and Charlie Puth - Dick and the Titans
Monster by Eminem and Rihanna - The amount of times people have told Dick he was crazy and he laughed and did it anyway
Superhero by Simon Curtis - Teen Titans Dick
Thunder by Imagine Dragons - Dick always takes charge of himself and his own destiny
A Million Dreams, the Greatest Showman - It literally sounds like Dick's inner thoughts to make Gotham a better place
Brave by Sara Bareilles - It's reminiscent of Dick's speech to Conner
Secrets and Lies by Death Note the Musical - This is Outsiders Dick Grayson to a T
Playing His Game by Death Note the Musical - This is how Dick solves all his crimes and mysteries
Drinking alone by Carrie Underwood - Ric Grayson
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MY FAVOURITE JIKOOK VOCALS
I'd like to grab a chance when my new love, Letter is out. This a post dedicated to all of my favourite jikook vocals be it on or off stage. This post will highlight their "two shades of tender in a tug of war". Please be prepared to reminisce about the old jikookery days. Don't say I didn't warn you! Let's get it~~
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ALSO! I am not ranking the vocals. What song comes up to my mind first grabs the top spot.
LETTER FT. JUNGKOOK
There's no official MV for this lovely song and won't likely have one as it is meant to be a hidden track. Just putting this lovely cover by Elisssa here. Check it out!
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MY UNIVERSE
Like the tweet says, their raw vocals are absolutely beautiful. Their voices hits different, you know? 😭❤️
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RUN
Yes, you're hearing it right, it's not that run bts song, but the hyhh era song. My forever favourite song, run. A song that makes me so energetic whenever I feel down. It enlightens me so much. For jikook? Good lord save me! They are wild 😂.
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1. Seoul Final 2019
Psst, you saw this coming, didn't you?
Yes yes, you're still hearing me rambling about my favourite moment of 2019 (I say this "favourite moment" thing for everything 😭 I just can't choose!!)
2. BTS HONG KONG 190321
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This moment is so underrated. I'll be sure to create a post just for this day and song. Highlighting all the pictures.
STAY GOLD
A beautifully written song by bangtan. Soulful lyrics and heartwarming meaning.
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1. BTS STAY GOLD CDTV LIVE
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Stay gold outro has got to be one of my favs. Just jikook staring at each other while ending the song. Pure comfort.
2. BTS STAY GOLD LIVE
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BAD DECISIONS
A super cool and hip song. Dedicated to the fans. JM's and JK's voice blend in so nicely!
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FOR YOUTH
A song which never fails to capture the feelings in my heart. Forever fav. An intimate song released before the hiatus, it depicted our journey together of both army and BTS.
1. BTS FOR YOUTH LIVE COMEBACK
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2. BTS FOR YOUTH KBS LIVE COMEBACK
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3. BTS FOR YOUTH TMA MUSIC AWARDS
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WHO
(LAUV, FT JIMIN AND JUNGKOOK FROM BTS)
"Feeling hypnotized by the words that you say"🎶
A collaboration between Lauv and JIKOOK.
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THE TRUTH UNTOLD
TTU is a song that carries a lot of emotions and it's very well executed by BTS. The vocal line surely knows how to change their mood during songs and I applaud them for their professionalism. Ok okay, but I'm still not gonna deny that jk cracked up when Jin didn't hit his note well 😭💜 (my JINKOOK heart)
Do you remember the time where they changed the lyrics from "and I still want you" to "But I still want you" while facing eachother, still not breaking their locked gazes when the lights went out?
SEOUL FINAL 2019
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I lost track of the source, if anyone of you knows where it's from, please let me know! For now, enjoy their harmonious vocals!
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WE DONT TALK ANYMORE PT.2
Nothing to say. Just embrace their vocals.
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LIGHTS
Something about this song makes me feel it's meant for jikook. I'm not saying the lyrics but their body language here is......
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RUN BTS
A MASTERPIECE.
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HONNE'S "YOU COME TO ME"
Jikook's cover, ya know?
Happy 7 years to this cover~
FILM OUT
I briefly started blogging on this platform around this era. Film out contains a lot of emotions. I love the beat.
BTS SOWOZOO
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2. BTS CDTV LIVE
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This post was long due and it took me a long time to get all the materials. My drafts got deleted and I got upset. That's why it took a while to be redone, lol. Anyways, please enjoy and support this post since it took a really long time to get it back on track. ENJOYYY~
Sincerely, tokyokookmin.
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