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carrotkicks · 2 years

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hi just wanted to tell you your ninjangelion au single-handedly got me to watch the whole original evangelion anime in one day. also i noticed you said you'll be going off the manga more, so i've been wondering if you could point out some main differences between manga and the anime?

Glad you asked! Firstly, I hoped you enjoyed the depressing mindf*ck that is Neon Genesis Evangelion. This au is definitely going to be a lot more positive, and will generally play out a bit more like your average mecha anime because the Ninjago cast is going to be running this story, and unlike in Eva, the ninja have bonafide action series personalities.

Now the differences between Eva Manga vs Anime:

It's hard explain how overwhelmingly different Shinji is in the manga compared to the anime. For one, thing he's actually assertive and pretty self assured. Manga Shinji is what you get if you gave him a more standard shounen protagonist personality and some therapy sessions. Despite that he's still very recognizably Shinji Ikari.

The manga like the rebuild movies, skips over a bunch of the filler angel battles in favor of moving the plot along. It's also likely that Sadamoto didn't have the energy to write and draw all those. (mentally I kept the fillers in for Ninjagelion, mostly because they're fun.)

You'll find that the storyline is much more cohesive here because theres a lot more focus on the secret mystery with SEELE and the Human Instrumentality Project, and learning what the heck the Evangelions even are.

the messages in the manga are pretty much the same as they are in the original anime (excluding EoE)

Manga is significantly less Freudian. Ninjagelion is not gonna be Freudian at all, it's very easy to not give you're characters oedipus/elektra complexes.

the Manga swaps out the weird trippy psychological scenes with weird dream sequences and flashbacks because it's weird to convey them in the medium

Kaworu is a pervy creep with an awful attitude, and Shinji is very discomforted by him. it's really funny

Asuka's role is mildly diminished, and there's no romance with her and Shinji.

Meanwhile, Rei and Kaji's role is much bigger.

END OF EVANGELION IS SOOO DIFFERENT!

The hospital scene is completly changed, making it less disgusting and fucked up as it was in the movie.

Shinji actually manages to save Asuka from being mauled by the MP Evas.

The Ending on the beach is switched out with something that's a little bit like the Rebuild series ending, with Rei creating a new world where the characters wake up in. (which supports the idea that the Manga might be the first iteration of the Eva Timeloop)

Overall the manga might not be as much a masterpiece thematically as the anime, but it's far more cohesive and satisfying. Also its not as depressing.

#ask #nge #evangelion #ninjagelion au

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holographicang3l · 3 years

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My hot take on the Evangelion 3.0+1.0 movie

-40 mins of shinji crying, trying to get over the trauma seeing Kaworus head explode and splatter across the window is relatable.

- Mari confused the fuck out of me. Her existence didn't make much sense but ok. Too much boob shots, too much fan service.

- Asukas story was good. Liked that she's also a Type series like Rei. Too much fanserves. They put a shit ton of detail on her naked body. I hated it.

- the Angel concept of Asuka was cool though it was predictable.

- So little of Ritsuko and Misato. Little to no personality.

- Kaji probably controlled Mark 6 to cut off Liliths head to stop the impact. (theory / headcanon / could have been kaworu as well but damn)

- hated that everyone was blaming shinji even tho he saved everyone at the same time. Ungreatful people, trying to blame a kid for ALLL the mess is pretty messed up.

- Kaworu and Asukas soul piloting Eva 13 lmao (I assume at least that's the case)

- I was laughing so ugly about the animation fo 3d Rei. Didn't give me the creeps, I was just making fun of it.

- some scenes are quiet awkwardly cut.

-I HATED the 3d fight between Eva 13 and Eva 1. It felt unfinished and unpolished.

- I did like the trueman show style of backdrop in the fight, where Eva 01 slammed through the scene wall.

- funny headless mannequin flying hand in hand 3d style. Looked ugly af but I can see the artistics in it.

- Weird but, the voice of Fuyutsuki sounded off, as if it was wrongly recorded. Maybe it was just me.

- "The key of Nebukadnezar ITS FULL CYCLE BOYS" urgh.

- Shinji putting the fucking dss choker on like the Chad he is.

- finally got in the fucking robot. What a huge Chad.

-crying kaworu was nice. Made him more human.

- didn't see it as if Shinji thinks Kaworu as his father figure, Idk how people can interpret that shit. They just come off as similar. Just because I see someone similar to a family member doesn't mean that I see them as a father or mother figure yall just interpret what you want to.

- Timeloop theory confirmed, we did it boys, depression is no more.

- it felt like a shit ton of things got cut off due to the awkward pacing, dialouge and some scenes.

- Ryo-chan I can't fucking-

- Commander Nagisa ✨ It was all an elaborate plan. Kaworu probably developed the Anti L- barrier thing or at least helped. (headcanon)

- Kaji was like father to me (probably kaworu somehow)

- melon farmer Kaworu confirmed

- Adult shinji, bantering with Mari.

-don't like the boob thing tho.

- hated the fan service. Loaded like a baked potato.

-Rei was fucking cute

- I would die for her.

- Fuck gendou

-I will not sympathies with a fucking egomaniac.

- dude fucked humanity bcs he couldn't accept the death of his wife.

- super obsessed.

-what a moron. I swear.

- Gendo hugging Shinji was cute tho.

- can't accept his apology tho, still asshole, can go rot in hell.

- All parents are assholes in Eva except Touji and Hikari.

-Tsubume and Rei fucking cute I swear.

- Kensuke is the ultimate winner, he looks handsome. Would fuck

- Rei and the farmer woman were cute, I want more content.

- End scene was stupid.

- the ending in general was good tho.

- felt bitter sweet but also satisfying.

- One LAST kiss slaps

- What if?: orchestra, piano slapped my soul into the Anti universe and now I'm sitting on the Golgatha object, ready to find Kaworu.

- I wanted them to be all happy.

-hopefully they are.

- Mari and Shinji probably endgame

- probably just friends tho, I mean come on.

-kawoshinners are crying.

- Kaworu going to super hell (predicted, it's all full cycle kids, go home)

MORE STUFF!!

- Maria Iskariot?! I mean what (yeah I know what the innuation is here but still)

- Asuka is a clone, guess Langley was the Original but died and the Shikinami series was deployed Idk, I'm not anno.

- Fucking technoblabble and pseudo-philosophy

- my brain melted trying to understand half of the bs that was spoken about

- I like Ryoji Kaji Jr. He's cute. I want 500 fanfics of him being a cute gardener and being best friends with kaworu (please im in pain help me)

- Parallels between Gendou and Ritsuko shooting at each other *chefs kiss*

- the detail in the scenery was just amazing.

- I'm a headless wandering Eva (no thoughts head empty)

- I missed the mass production Eva's (way cooler though I really liked the skull Eva's as well)

- give me a 14 years before prequel or give me death (probably gonna die before it comes out)

- I swear I was so sad when doppelganger Rei busted into Fanta, best development of Rei ngl

- I can not stop my anger with Gendou I swear.

-I don't care how he's written Gendo/ Gendou/Gendoh, all versions are assholes

- That L barrier thing in Asukas eye was the most painful thing to watch. Body gore Asuka as always.

- NEON GENESIS

- "I'll come and get you Shinji" SHUT UP

- The self insert story was funny tho ngl

- That hair flip was fabulous

- KaWoRu AnD rEi aRe StAnDinG in ClOsE pRoXiMiTy ThEy mUsT bE tOgEtHeR (what the fuck, can't people have normal friends from the other gender? )

- ShInJi aNd MaRi hElD hAnDs ThEy mUsT bE tOgEThEr (what the fuck, can't friends of the other gender hold hands? Does that mean I'm dating my best friend for holding his hand?! MAKE SENSE PEOPLE)

- UwU Asushin is Canon UwU (In the past maybe, was a huge cockblock from anno here, go cry in a corner and read your top rated evageek hentai manga of Asuka x Shinji Jesus christ (don't slaughter me) )

- God is dead after the stunt Gendou pulled and Kawoshin is (no) more (lmao no but yes but no, don't slaughter me)

- UNIT8 be like: "you're talking mad shit for someone being in consuming range" and proceeds to eat all the units (vore is strong in this one)

- Eva 13 and Eva 1 hugging (and penetrating) best shit I've seen

- Maris scream for Asuka was painful. It ripped my heart in pieces.

- Angel Unit2 was too short. I want more of that.

-That tiny Kaworu in the background while Angel Asuka absorbs Shikinami (I don't know fam, the movie is confusing)

- I read somewhere that Headless kaworu corpse playing the piano in the entry plug was cut off from the script and Im not sure if that is true but I would have LOVED TO SEE IT

- Eva 3.0+1.0 was annos huge middle finger to all of Evangelion and I love it.

- tells us to grow up and stop hyperfocusing at the characters proceeds to make them as sexual as possible lmfaooo

- That Lance of WILLE thing looks like something out of Darling in the FRANXX series and I laughed so hard.

- YUI Yui YUI YUI Yui Yui YUI

- there you are YUI?!

- Mom was in me (I want to die)

- Gonna use plot device shit to make a Lance out of a spine (damn shinji obtained a backbone to defeat his deadbeat father, I would have never seen this coming *irony*)

- Gotta defeat your dad with the power of friendship TALKING (like any human being does)

- Anno says byebye (proceeds to think of 14 years past prequel, it makes money so I guess)

- Anno says grow up, proceeds to slap the fans in the face that you should stop using escapism as a coping mechanism in a world that makes you feel miserable and being in constant pressure to uphold a stupid image and start to live even though you're forced to work as much as possible with makes living hard af (I dotn know if you understand what I was trying to tell with this but if you do *Finger guns*)

- Give me the uncut version in a year or I riot

Thanks.

#evangelion #Spoilers #evangelion 3.0+1.0 #SPOILERS

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foulserpent · 3 years

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yeah more elaborated thoughts on the ending of 3.0+1.0. spoilers obviously

ok so EOE is heavily pessimistic w,ith a slight aspect of hope when examined closely. a traumatized 14 year old who has had what little was good in his life taken away and all his fears validated is put in control of the apocalypse, so OF COURSE he decides to take the easy route and create a world without individual humans to hurt each other (since thats the main option on the table). thats entirely natural and understandable. and by the time he comes around to rejecting this, its partially too late, and we’re left with a desolate world, but with the hope that people can reform and a potential for a future. he suffers tremendous consequences for what isnt so much a personal failing as like, pretty much inevitable. and i dont really like analyses that treat it as like Punishment For Shinji's Sins bc even if maybe its meant that way, this is still a situation where him and the other kids are victims. but i feel like the consequences are IMPORTANT like it shows that he has accepted the potential for pain and is willing to face it.

eva 3.0+1.0 is almost the exact opposite, where shinji knows exactly what to do, manages to make peace with everyone in his life, and create a better world. which like, if you take the og series and rebuilds as one set of media Maybe works, but on its own is a little hollow too. and definitely feels like a sudden and unlikely transition from how despondent shinjj is at the beginning with no real concrete impetus for change

i mean idk since they DID confirm timeloops i think it might be implied shinji was aware of the previous timelines and that informed his decisions? but its never really shown. idk i think id rather see some key transitional moment(s) that prepare shinji to make peace with everyone, bc as it stands its just a couple things with not-rei (and then hes weirdly unaffected by her death) and him hallucinating kaworu once and then hes suddenly like. hes good. hes fine. i mean i dont want an extra hour of him being despondent but it wuould have been nice to have a lot more buildup to him being willing to reject instrumentality/make peace with everyone.

but also i feel like a more balanced ending thats STILL very optimistic would be that hes able to reverse the destruction to the world but not reset it altogether. like its still the post apocalyptic post 3rd impact world you see at the beginning, but its no longer coreified, life can grow again. that way there ARE consequences and shinji has to live in this world he (unwittingly) created, but its one where people can live and 'rebuild' (lol) where theres a hope for the future and day to day happiness, even if its not an idealistic certainty

bc this ending feels a little weird underneath the superficial happiness like... what happened to that village and its ppl? the baby and etc? are they just gone? even if they were like, transferred to the new world, it kinda feels like everything they built was kinda for nothing.

i mean like THE core theme of evangelion is facing things instead of running away, and like on one hand shinji very much does face things (literally finding resolution in every one of his relationships, which is the emotional core of the show) but hes still kinda "running away" in a sense.... but then on the other end, its very directly a 'return to the real world' and a conclusion to the meta arc of shinji as kind of representing the audience a little, not to mention anno lol. i honestly just dont know how to feel about it. still liked it tho

#its REALLY interesting in that its very different when viewed only in the context of the rebuilds vs in the context of the full series #like not even just in the 'having context informs your thoughts on it' way like it very literally changes the meaning of the ending a littl #i really did like it overall tho i never would have expected the rebuilds to end in a way that isnt garbage lol

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waaty · 3 years

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OK SO I WATCHED THE NEW EVA MOVIE SO I’M GONNA DUMP MY THOUGHTS HERE TOO i also posted this on twitter and obviously this has spoilers for the entirely of shin evangelion 3.0+1.0 don’t read if you haven’t seen the movie!!!

OK SO i actually really quite liked it!??? i was a little worried at first because even though i was spoiler-free i did see some Reactions.

ANYWAYS so like. wow where to even start. i think i really liked how it commentated on end of eva. i thought how it really went into gendo’s past and how he saw the world was really cool. end of eva suggested that gendo had fears like shinji, but it was cool to see it really shown here. gendo, especially in rebuild, is shown to be like this inhuman evil so it was cool to see him like… humanized in this way?

i enjoyed how kaworu was handled too. it was cool to see the timeloop theory stuff kinda… proven??? i mean it was obvious but it was still nice to have it heavily suggested. i thought it was sweet that he cried when young shinji extended a hand to him, it’s not everyday you see a kaworu with such emotion!!! i thought it was funny but also kind of interesting that shinji said kaworu was like gendo lol i think what he meant was that kaworu, like gendo, does crazy things to try to save the one he loves. he does it for selfish reasons and… idk, i enjoyed that actually! it was really interesting. god i loved the reanimated ep24 parts.

the EoE parts were really neat and Weird which is fitting imo. the real life lady was so ?????????? but also? i get it. i respect it. the weird wanderer things turning into headless 3D naked reis? don’t get it but still respect it. for real tho i really liked how they did the “what do you wish for?” conversation and i also thought it was neat that they even did the EoE final scene. the art style was really weird, it kinda… reminded me of RETAKE??? did anyone think this

it’s not without flaws but like, every rebuild movie is pretty flawed, but like honestly in general i really liked it! sure asuka needed pants but hey!

oh speaking of asuka i loved how she told shinji she once had a crush on him but the she became an adult. that was really good actually.

the fact that shinji/mari is endgame is also actually hilarious to me and tbh? is the perfect solution to rei vs asuka waifu wars. they had nearly no buildup compared to other love interests but honestly i’m not mad? i’m kawoshin biased but i’m still happy because at least he’s alive! he may meet shinji again! it’s not a sad ending to me. tbh i still dont know wtf is up with mari (why does she have judas’ last name) but that’s ok.

i should probably wrap this up now so tldr 9/10

#nge tag #haven’t used that in forever #thoughts

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semi-imaginary-place · 2 years

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Watching Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0

3.0 hmmm so rebuilt really is a rebuilt a rewrite. here’s to hoping its less... weird.. about everything than the og series. if they take out how every woman miraculously wants gendo i will be happy. mmm that earth isn’t looking so good. so the collars are kill switches. one of the crimes of the anime is that the writers drove misato and ritsuko apart. hmm but who is fighting who here. asuka and mari were fighting against eva tech. hmmm mari’s connections to the evas hasn’t been revealed yet and they’ve been teasing kaworu for 3 movies now. shinji hasn’t realized he caused the apocalypse, i’d be easier if someone just told him hey you destroyed the world. they gave him crocs! 14 years hm? why didn’t asuka age? did the opening scene take place recently? or 14 years ago? all eva pilots all teenagers frozen in time. restored? hmm what rei thought was important? ah I love this for ristuko. when the climax of the anime hit and the writers had ritsuko risk it all for gendo i was ... going to write a strongly worded letter. but take down nerv and stop instrumentality with her gal pal? hell yeah. misato threw a coup and most of the staff went with her. i love that. or at least i think the short haired woman was on the command station team in nerv.

nice contrast between the slapdash rushed and hectic but filled with people nature of wille vs. the empty and automated nerv. oh so this is the gay piano scene people were freaking out about a decade ago. oh wow shinji’s getting like 10 the exposition her got in the anime. anime was all dramatic irony because the audience knew more. i think its pretty kind of misato and co not to kill shinji outright given how dangerous he is. i can’t read kaworu. i do believe he is doing this for shinji, but what he has said plays well into seele and nerv’s plans. will the two of them really be able to take the spears away from the control of everyone else? didn’t he say those were the keys to instrumentality? shiji is totally being used here no question by seele, nerv, and kaworu. why is lilith sealed off? nerv had access to their body before the third impact. if shinji left with unit 13 he could stop/delay nerv’s plans. ... does this mean shinji and kaworu are drift compatible? lilith’s corpse? at the epicenter of the third impact, whose head is the giant rei head gendo has. the giant rei formed at the end on 2.0 how is that lilith? what happened to the giant crucified one? ok those skulls are huge what are they.

ah there it is. give kaworu false information and use him to convince shinji to get in the eva, and once in shinji will magical thinking his way into completing the mission even when it will no longer save the world. oh shinji is totally about to make things worse. no more cyborg spines for seele they’re full digital in the movies and gendo has pulled the plug. mark 6 turned into Big Rei which turned into a fetus which turned into a smaller red ball which mark 13 ate. hnnnnnnnnnn over to the wiki i go! instrumentality refers to wiping out lilith lifeforms for adam lifeforms to take over???? well that’s a big change from the anime where it meant hiveminding humanity. “this is my fault?” yup it sure it. well kinda. is it me or is the translation for 3.0 wonky? hmm asuka is much more stable here in the rebuild. her family issues weren’t aggravated and she didn’t have a breakdown like in the anime. huh so this planet still has a breathable atmosphere.

wow so in the end just like the anime kaworu was hyped up and only got 30 minutes of screentime which i suppose in an improvement. there’s definitely something to be said for shinji killing kaworu, but i rather like kaworu’s role here all the same. i remember back in the day people were waying kaworu was stuck in a timeloop like homura, was that all theorycrafting and speculation? there was only 1 line in this entire movie series that supports this. the one living thing shown the entire movie the tree by the piano was a nice touch. shinji’s sanctuary.

oh so unit01 fusing with giant rei was the near third impact. the true third impact was a later separate event caused by the fusion of mark 6 with lilith. ahhhh i see. if mari releasing shinji’s entry plug was what stopped the fourth impact, did kaworu need to die?

one thing i would have wanted to see more of in 2.0 would be the destruction from past battles. i wanted to see more of how humanity isn’t springing back quickly. how the cities destroyed aren’t instantly repaired. the dialogue alludes to this like how nerv jp is running out of spare parts and has to prioritize fixing 01 over 00 and the deterioration of rei’s apartment but i would have liked to see that also reflected in the landscape more.

#nge #neon genesis evangelion #eva

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