#of a real of subculture

[tiredstressedemotionalmess]

taylor swift releasing this album right as ive become fascinated by the shift in popularity from subcultures to aesthetics and the broader implications of dark academia in particular.. i really do not want to listen to this album but fuck if it wouldnt make a fascinating case study for me-

#its just. ive been thinking a lot recently about the rise in internet aesthetics and its effects on subculture #words that used to have meaning that get watered down by people who like the vibes but dont want to commit to the lifestyle aspects #of a real of subculture #its the sort of mentality that leads to people calling her music punk. because they view punk as a vauge aesthetic of anti authoritarianism #instead if a legitimate music genre with a subculture based in that #as soon as summer hits and i dont have school i am writing PAGES about this istg

[zdezintegracja]

True icons of goth subculture

#gothic music #goth style #gothic #goth #trad goth #80s goth #gothic woman #goth music #gothic style #gothgoth #goth subculture #gothic subculture #siouxsie sioux #siouxsie and the banshees #lisa gerrard #liz fraser #diamanda galas #80s music #goth girl #real goth #goth icons #iconic

[the-satanist]

#goth #satan #goth subculture #hail satan #666 satan #satanist #satanism #satanic #satan is real

[spookysalem13]

If this was a real show, this would be the type of real housewives I would sit down to watch.

#transylvania #goth icons #goth girl #goth art #dark art #dark aesthetic #dark academia #redcore #black and red #red aesthetic #goth #gothic #goth aesthetic #vampire #vampyr #vampire aesthetic #real housewives #alt girl #morticia addams #elvira #vampira #bride of frankenstein #skulls #goth subculture #alt subculture #grunge #gothgoth #spooky #spooky aesthetic #alt

[fatmasc]

How to be punk: listen to punk music

How to be goth: listen to goth music

Thats it. These are music subcultures, not fashion subcultures. There are associated styles but the only way to be truly a part of them is to listen to and engage with the music

#which is also why trying to assign any apecific politics to punk esp isnt always a great idea #bc there are plenty of n-zi punks and acting like they arent real punks makes it harder to leep them outnof spaces #anyways. i love punk i love goth im perpetually tired of ppl forgetting they are music subcultures first #.txt #not fatshion related but its been on my mind #all of which to say i love to talk ab these music genres <3 if ur interested and dont know where to start find some punks n goths to chat w!

[rivetgoth]

The r/goth subreddit kinda swinging to the opposite side of the Goth Gatekeeping Discourse pendulum and like getting into incredibly nitpicky detached arguments that don’t really mean anything within the context of like. Going outside and actually engaging with the irl scene about, like, whether Disintegration by The Cure is “actually goth” or not will never not be funny. Someone asked recently if The Birthday Massacre is goth and some guy replied super condescendingly with a comment like “I’ve never heard of them before but listening to them now, they have to be the least goth band I’ve LITERALLY ever heard.” Like…. Come on now. 😭

#like TBM is not trad goth we all know this but you’re being so purposely obnoxiously obtuse to act like #it’s some absurd question to ask if one of the biggest dark alt bands that has extremely major footing in the wider dark community is goth. #(ppl on there can be cool I just think it gets goofy about nitpicking genres to the point that there’s like. no room for evolution at all) #like it’s obviously one thing to completely divorce goth of its meaning as a music based subculture but imo it’s equally goofy to like #post nothing but TSOM Joy Division & early Cure and then get weirdly rude and uppity over fellow goths using the term like #MARGINALLY more liberally than you do within the context of the modern real life goth scene. ykwim.

[bifrosted-flakes]

You guys HAVE to stop putting punk on a pedestal

#punks are not uniquely kind they’re not uniquely non-bigoted you’ve just never been to a concert #also racists are in punk spaces! sexists are in punk spaces! the most violent homophobic shit can come from guys in battle vests #learn to recognize bigotry in your community and fight it #instead of pretending that since they’re ‘obviously not real punks’ you don’t have to care #punk is not a fucking political stance it’s a music genre and a subculture wearing big boots is not praxis

[sendmyresignation]

i do think the recent my chem music journalism Discourse (in the traditional dialog sense.) is interesting bc this kind of weird defensiveness regarding mcr is something ive seen like since the reunion and in pieces about the "emo revival" where writers spend sooo much time offering themselves up to the altar of cringe or say shit like "well the pandemics made us all nostalgic for being 14 again" (smthing i actually read like sorry to you but i never want to be 14 again) and i think it truly boils down to people not taking my chem or any of this era like. seriously. as like intentional art. even by fans. it's so bizarre. like my chem were melodramic with a purpose not just something teenagers identified with and i have no idea why that keeps getting lost even during this recent period of like. sentimentality for the genre.

#obv by fans i mean like. ppl writing articles lmao i think we all are appreciative of mcrs clarity of purpose #like these bands. tbs and the used and paramore and panic and etc etc were all speaking to real emotion #and to see that get disregarded in this reevaluation for some yearning for better easier years when i could be more myself shit... #makes me feel crazy. like lets not pretend this subculture (which with emo is sooo fucking complicated a q in and of itself) is perfect #but to completely miss the point??? the sincerity????? esp in a time that was sorely needed both within music and societially. jesus. #my posts

[dammit-theclown]

Love watching kids on here call goth vampyres “stereotypical” like the goth and real vampire subcultures don’t have an absolute metric fuckton of shared/intertwined history

#dammit-soapbox #also like. easiest subculture to find gear in by FAR. just sayin #you can be hashtag cottagecore as much as you want but you WILL need to go to a goth event to see a fangmaker in person #nonhuman #real vampire #otherkin #vampirekin #sanguinarian #sanguinarian vampire

[pikslasrce]

this is such a bad faith take like bro... (e geoff for formatting)

#nobody w a sound mind wants to go back to the actual sociopolitical era that was the early 2000s??? like the criticism makes some sense #but its v unnecessary to say that theres nothing salvageable there abt the subculture. the fashion (even tho it did suck a bit)... #like i get the music criticism a bit ik its not for everybody and there were/are issues w the scene but like.. to moralize over a genre? #be for real. #idk. idk. its a very weird way to frame it.... #NOT TO MENTION. that half of the revivalism is done by people who were born then thus never actually had to live through the 2000s like that #piksla.txt

[shadowpeachyuri]

please never call azure lion a twitter liberal ever again

he’d genuinely believe canceling people counts as activism and you know it

#ask!! #anon ask!! #my reasoning is: he’s not wrong about there being a need for societal change #BUT he has no real plan for how to accomplish it #and upon gaining the power to do so #he immediately makes things worse #doesn’t make any real progress #and mostly uses his power to settle personal grudges #does that sound like any online subcultures we know of

[dj-of-the-coven]

hey twewy fandom here's your quick reminder that Beat being characterized as homophobic is leftover from the great yaoi age of the late 2000s when every male character who wasn't part of the pale twink duo sucking each other off was given the social sensibilities of a republican orc so 13 year olds could have someone to be uncharacteristically evil in their fanfics and give more conflict to a "forbidden/sinful" romance

#twewy #ntwewy #daisukenojo bito #look there's nothing wrong with conflict in stories but this was a real issue back in the day #people saw Beat's clothes and heard his accent and decided he was homophobic because “idk he just gives me those vibes” #bestie the vibes he's giving are predominantly black and lower class traits #the vibes you're getting are not “homophobic” they're subcultural would you just think about it for a sec #tell me which racial group created the skater subculture and created rock and hip-hop #then think really hard about why Beat got assigned the homophobe trait while Shiki got a pass for implying she wanted to watch joshneku fuc #twewy was progressive for its time but it's still an RPG from 2007 and its not perfect in how it handled queerness or racial divides #I'm kinda getting sick of people ignoring it

[zdezintegracja]

#goth #gothic #post punk #gothgoth #80s music #goth subculture #80s #bauhaus #peter murphy #gothic music #goth music #gothic subculture #trad goth #real goth #80s goth #goth man #goth icons #Spotify

[the-satanist]

#goth #satan #goth subculture #hail satan #666 satan #satanist #satanism #satanic #satan is real

[eggbagelz]

Hello music fan. Can you explain to me why emo is a childish subculture without saying that teenage girls like it? You have ten seconds.

#gave my friends a whole ramble abt this the other day but it does actually piss me off that emo's not seen as a Real or #Proper or Mature subculture compared to say. goth or punk #[which is incredibly ironic considering that emo IS a punk subculture but i digress] #chattering

[doedipus]

a large amount of time I've been spending on -untitled undefined scope original fiction project- since the last time I posted about it has been trying to develop the protagonist concept I came up with last summer or whatever into like, a character that would feel real and era appropriate.

it's fun research to do. naturally a lot of the details I assigned to her are things that I already think are cool, so it's been a lot of fun trying to trace her traits back through the relatively recent past, getting reminded of how much things have changed, or where the gaps in my intuition are, and then doing a flurry of reading to get a sense for exactly how someone like her and the people around her could have happened and what her life was probably like leading up to her present day. hopefully this results in some good good verisimilitude.

#I wrote a short story from her perspective over the holidays and then didn't know how to continue it #and then I got distracted by real life stuff for a few months #I forget if I posted about that #and then I've been picking through archive dot org for the last few weeks looking at this stuff #the last big rabbit hole was trying to get a better feel for era appropriate ts/tv subculture #the current one I'm looking at is how she would've gotten into language learning and how that would've worked #nettle has been prodding me about the setting thing lately so I've been thinking about that more too #probably the biggest hurdle by far is figuring out how I want to play that #and how I want the thing to be divided up #since the original coc scenario I'm developing this out of is centered on a flight from LA to honolulu #and the airport dungeon was definitely meant to be a hook for a larger campaign #some amount of it is going to cover protag lady's failed life in LA and some of it is going to be worse things happening in hawaii #but it's like. how much do I want to balance it one way or the other #and realistically how much does the aesthetics of 20th century air travel add to the story #besides me personally thinking it's compelling ofc #a lot of what I find compelling about hawaii is that it's an east/west cultural crossroads and realistically that's also true of socal #and I can wax poetic about socal as much as I want without worrying all that much about mishandling something #and there's also a lot of socal specific history along similar parallels to pull from that I'm more familiar with #I guess it comes down to whether curiosity re: 'doing it right' is enough of a motivator to do the increased amount of research #which I guess it has so far with the above character details. so hopefully that will continue #but it also feels like using machine translation a bit yknow. it's hard to know how effectively I'll be able to sanity check #although depending on where this goes I might be able to get other people involved to sensitivity read down the line #with most of the creative things I do I just have a tendency to always rely really heavily on figuring things out myself #I also want protag lady to have a Cool Car and idk how to get that from point a to point b narratively #this is like an entire second or third post's worth of tags but I don't feel like unfucking this so whatever. suffer. I guess.