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godisarepublican · 8 days
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Anyone who thinks there isn't a MASSIVE propaganda campaign going against Trump just has to type MAGA into the Tumblr search box.
Apparently Joe Biden is a war hero now. And everyone left of center has now decided that they were AGAINST the lockdowns in 2020, that it was all Trump's fault. Have yet to see an actual issue raised either in support of Biden or against Trump...
Propaganda isn't supposed to give you something to think about. It's inducing an emotional response; reaction. If you're thinking then it's not doing it's job.
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freetheshit-outofyou · 11 months
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I don't remember where I got this but it's just as true as it was then. "So there you are sitting on your front porch with a cold longneck when the local PD rolls up in your yard. Then another parks out by the street. Three officers approach you on your front porch and inform you that there has been a report you are drinking.
“Well, sure I am!” you say, “It’s Friday night and I plan to have another.”
“We need your car keys sir,” the young officer says. “What for?” you inquire.
His reply shocks you…“We have to take your car to keep you from hurting someone!”
“How am I going to hurt someone sitting on my porch with a beer?”
“Well your neighbor says you were threatening a trip to the beach this weekend and you’ve been accused of drinking, so we have to take your car!”
“But I’m not driving now!”
“Sir, it remains that you have threatened to drive and you are drinking, so we must take possession of your vehicle. You may come to the courthouse Monday for a hearing to determine when, and if, you may get your car back.”
This is the same as a red flag gun (ERPO) law!
Having your property (no matter what it is) seized because someone says you “MIGHT POSSIBLY do something” is a violation of the 4th amendment!
There is NO due process!
There is NO facing your accuser!
You’re gonna miss those freedoms when they’re gone!
Fight for them before they are!"
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michael6618 · 1 year
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It is most interesting cuz evangelicals Baptist Pentecostals and other like-minded people are on the leaning right side.
The reason I bring this up is that we have all these thoughts and prayers for massacres and especially a massacres of young innocent children who threw no fault of their own or savagely killed.
No I've been a choice most times as an AK-47 or an AR-15. Now I want you to imagine this vividly.
Innocent young children at school sitting at their desks learning and then their head explodes as blood pumps out of their neck their brain matter splattered all over the walls sticking to it with their blood.
Their little bodies torn to bits making them unrecognizable to their parents. Does this shock you? Good it's supposed to.
The thoughts and prayers worked wouldn't the almighty God have stopped the mass shootings by now?
Wouldn't all the prayers of all the Christians sending thoughts and prayers had ended the massacres.
Almost every day there is a shooting in the United States. Thoughts and prayers. Is God listening to you Christians? Has God intervened and stop the shootings? No he hasn't. Do you know why? Because God gave man free will. And until that free will is manifested in common sense gun legislation the massacres will continue.
There will be a table set and the chair will be empty or several chairs will be empty.
Do you feel safe in the United States people? Do you feel safe going out to a venue like Las Vegas, or maybe to a movie like in Colorado or even maybe sending your children to school like in Uvalde. Or sending your kids to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. Do you feel safer now?
And the killings, the massacres, the shootings and the murder of venison children will continue with firearms.
Thoughts and prayers do not work. I will say it again, God gave us free will that is why Boston prayers are not working. You need common Sense logical gun control.
And what about red flag laws. There is a good chance that is a married woman files for divorce or files for a protective order she will be murdered. A red flag law allows law enforcement to contact a judge and remove all firearms from that person. And women have been killed by their boyfriends, spouse or their dates because of a protective order.
It's not about taking away your guns it's about common sense gun control legislation.
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A year and a half before he was arrested in the Colorado Springs gay nightclub shooting that left five people dead, Anderson Lee Aldrich allegedly threatened his mother with a homemade bomb, forcing neighbors in surrounding homes to evacuate while the bomb squad and crisis negotiators talked him into surrendering.
Yet despite that scare, there's no public record that prosecutors moved forward with felony kidnapping and menacing charges against Aldrich, or that police or relatives tried to trigger Colorado's "red flag" law that would have allowed authorities to seize the weapons and ammo the man's mother says he had with him.
Gun control advocates say Aldrich's June 2021 threat is an example of a red flag law ignored, with potentially deadly consequences. While it's not clear the law could have prevented Saturday night's attack — such gun seizures can be in effect for as little as 14 days and be extended by a judge in six-month increments — they say it could have at least slowed Aldrich and raised his profile with law enforcement.
"We need heroes beforehand — parents, co-workers, friends who are seeing someone go down this path," said Colorado state Rep. Tom Sullivan, whose son was killed in the Aurora theater shooting and sponsored the state's red flag law passed in 2019. "This should have alerted them, put him on their radar."
But the law that allows guns to be removed from people deemed dangerous to themselves or others has seldom been used in the state, particularly in El Paso County, home to Colorado Springs, where the 22-year-old Aldrich allegedly went into Club Q with a long gun at just before midnight and opened fire before he was subdued by patrons.
An Associated Press analysis found Colorado has one of the lowest rates of red flag usage despite widespread gun ownership and several high-profile mass shootings.
Courts issued 151 gun surrender orders from when the law took effect in April 2019 through 2021, three surrender orders for every 100,000 adults in the state. That's a third of the ratio of orders issued for the 19 states and District of Columbia with surrender laws on their books.
El Paso County appears especially hostile to the law. It joined nearly 2,000 counties nationwide in declaring themselves "Second Amendment Sanctuaries" that protect the constitutional right to bear arms, passing a 2019 resolution that says the red flag law "infringes upon the inalienable rights of law-abiding citizens" by ordering police to "forcibly enter premises and seize a citizen's property with no evidence of a crime."
County Sheriff Bill Elder has said his office would wait for family members to ask a court for surrender orders and not petition for them on its own accord, unless there were "exigent circumstances" and "probable cause" of a crime.
El Paso County, with a population of 730,000, had 13 temporary firearm removals through the end of last year, four of which turned into longer ones of at least six months.
The county sheriff's office declined to answer what happened after Aldrich's arrest last year, including whether anyone asked to have his weapons removed. The press release issued by the sheriff's office at the time said no explosives were found but did not mention anything about whether any weapons were recovered.
Spokesperson Lt. Deborah Mynatt referred further questions about the case to the district attorney's office.
An online court records search did not turn up any formal charges filed against Aldrich in last year's case. And in an update on a story on the bomb threat, The Gazette newspaper of Colorado Springs reported that prosecutors did not pursue any charges in the case and that records were sealed.
The Gazette also reported Sunday that it got a call from Aldrich in August asking that it remove a story about the incident.
"There is absolutely nothing there, the case was dropped, and I'm asking you either remove or update the story," Aldrich said in a voice message to an editor. "The entire case was dismissed."
A spokesperson for the district attorney's office, Howard Black, declined to comment on whether any charges were pursued. He said the shooting investigation will also include a study of the bomb threat.
"There will be no additional information released at this time," Black said. "These are still investigative questions."
AP's study of 19 states and the District of Columbia with red flag laws on their books found they have been used about 15,000 times since 2020, less than 10 times for every 100,000 adults in each state. Experts called that woefully low and hardly enough to make a dent in gun killings.
Just this year, authorities in Highland Park, Illinois, were criticized for not trying to take guns away from the 21-year-old accused of a Fourth of July parade shooting that left seven dead. Police had been alerted about him in 2019 after he threatened to "kill everyone" in his home.
Duke University sociologist Jeffrey Swanson, an expert in red flag laws, said the Colorado Springs case could be yet another missed warning sign.
"This seems like a no brainer, if the mom knew he had guns," he said. "If you removed firearms from the situation, you could have had a different ending to the story."
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rapeculturerealities · 6 months
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U.S. v. Rahimi: Guns Rights and Domestic Violence Converge in Latest Supreme Court Case — ProPublica
The U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments next week in a pivotal firearms case that could have profound implications for how police and courts deal with domestic violence.
The question: Should people who are placed under domestic violence protection orders also lose access to their guns?
For many victim advocates, the answer is obvious. Women are five times more likely to be killed in a domestic violence incident when the abuser has access to a gun. Advocates argue that the gun restrictions tied to such orders are among the most powerful tools for domestic violence victims and that without them, more people will die.
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If “nobody is coming to take your guns” then, why do you support red flag laws?
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diablo1776 · 1 month
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The Biden Administration just announced they're invested 1 billion of your tax dollars to expand and enforce Red Flag Laws. They've also created ERPO, who for any reason can label you an 'Extremist or a Domestic Terrorist'. This allows them to take away your guns an not allow you to purchase anything as well. When they gaslight the media saying they're not coming for your guns, this is what they do.
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ancaporado · 2 years
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"Post photos of guns and cryptic messages" and the state will demand you guns at gunpoint.
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diasporangael · 1 year
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godisarepublican · 26 days
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They’re illegal aliens. Say it right: Illegal aliens!
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gwydionmisha · 1 year
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penguinlover27 · 1 year
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Another step in the right direction! This time, from the governor of Michigan.
While this does not go as far as I would like to see done, I think that it and the actions taken by Tennessee’s governor are the start of a model of what should be uniformly implemented across all 50 states.
We can protect the right of people to protect themselves with firearms and still reduce the number of incidents of gun violence. These two aims are not in conflict. We can indeed preserve both the 2nd Amendment and public safety.
I am pleased to see some action finally being done after so many years of the NRA and the GOP forcing us to sit on our hands and hope that their “thoughts and prayers” would solve the problem.
Here’s to more discussion and debate, and more importantly, some concrete action towards addressing the public health emergency that is almost uniquely American. We can preserve our freedom, yet protect our population at the same time.
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A second Tennessee House Democrat has been reinstated after Republicans expelled him for protesting with gun control advocates.
The Shelby County Board of Commissioners voted 7-0 Wednesday to reinstate state Rep. Justin Pearson, who days before was expelled by the GOP supermajority for joining protesters ― many of them children ― who chanted in the House chamber in support of gun control following a school shooting that left three kids and three adults dead last month.
Following his reinstatement, a packed crowd inside the County Administration Building erupted in cheers and applause. In a speech following his reinstatement, Pearson said it was time to get back to work.
“You can’t expel our voice, and you sure can’t expel our fight,” he told the crowd.
“Let’s get back to work!” he shouted, to loud cheers.
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Pearson and fellow Democratic state Rep. Justin Jones were expelled for protesting on March 30 in the House chamber, which Republican lawmakers called “disorderly behavior” that “brought dishonor to the House of Representatives.” A third lawmaker who joined in protesting for gun control, Democratic Rep. Gloria Johnson, was spared expulsion by a single vote.
Pearson and Jones are Black; Johnson is white. Both Jones and Johnson joined Pearson in his march Wednesday to the County Administration Building.
“I’m so glad Memphis did what was right,” Johnson told local station WREG after the vote. “I’m just absolutely thrilled.”
“Justice was done today,” she added.
Pearson represents part of Memphis, which is in Shelby County. Mickell Lowery, Chairman of the Shelby County Board of Commissioners, said in a statement Sunday that the expulsion of Pearson “was conducted in a hasty manner.”
“The protests at the State Capitol by citizens recently impacted by the senseless deaths of three 9-year-old children and three adults entrusted with their care at their school was understandable given the fact that the gun laws in the State of Tennessee are becoming nearly non-existent,” Lowery said.
“It is equally understandable that the leadership of the State House of Representatives felt a strong message had to be sent to those who transgressed the rules,” Lowery continued. “However, I believe the expulsion of State Representative Justin Pearson was conducted in a hasty manner without consideration of other corrective action methods. I also believe that the ramifications for our great State are still yet to be seen.”
Jones, who represents part of Nashville, was voted back into office on Monday by the Nashville Metropolitan Council in a vote of 36-0. Nashville Mayor John Cooper (D) said it was about giving voters their “voice back.”
“Voters in District 52 elected Justin Jones to be their voice at the statehouse, and that voice was taken away this past week,” Cooper said during the meeting to reinstate Jones. “So let’s give them their voice back. I call on this body to vote unanimously, right now, to do just that.”
Along with the two lawmakers being reinstated this week, another surprising victory emerged: On Tuesday, Republican Gov. Bill Lee signed an executive order to tighten background checks and called on the state legislature to pass a “red flag” law that would make it easier to remove guns from people who pose a danger to themselves or others.
During his expulsion hearing, Pearson reminded lawmakers that the U.S. was founded on protest.
“You who celebrate July 4, 1776, pop fireworks and eat hot dogs ― you say to protest is wrong because you spoke out of turn, because you spoke up for people who are marginalized, because you spoke up for kids who won’t ever speak again ... in a country built on people who speak out of turn,” he said.
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bighermie · 1 year
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tendie-defender · 2 years
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For those individuals who are calling for red flag laws that spent the last 2 years yelling say her name “Breonna Taylor” -knowing how no-knock raids are dangerous and are abused by law enforcement with absolutely zero legal recourse…..
Do you think the government is incompetent or competent? Because it can’t be both.
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diablo1776 · 11 months
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