#robin seager

[just-late-roman-republic-things]

Tiberius: This is a republic right

Senate: Yep

Tiberius: You governed Rome for 500 years before you even had a princeps

Senate: That’s right

Tiberius: And I might be princeps but you're still the supreme legislative and judicial body

Senate: Yep

Tiberius: So I’m asking you to do some legislating and adjudicating

Senate: That’s too hard

(Robin Seager, Tiberius, with sentences to this effect every third page or so)

#the ghost of cato would've strangled the lot of them #tiberius #robin seager #jlrrt reads

[brother-emperors]

There's something to me about how Pompey is said to have been nice to his wives, and how he also somehow gained two wife-coded political colleagues

I actually think that Pompey was wife-coded, not Caesar! Caesar gets a lot of heat over the Queen of Bithnyia allegations, but he never actually fulfills the role of a Roman politician's wife within the Tris Homines, although he DOES fill the role of a courtesan when the dominant political power at play was Crassus-Pompey

The Defeat of Rome: Crassus, Carrhae and the Invasion of the East, Gareth C. Sampson

like all of this

Pompey the Great, Robin Seager

smacks of the same kind of skilled networking as this

Plutarch, Lucullus

like, if the whole of Rome is a political house, Crassus is wife-coded for sure because he's consistently the leading domestic politician out of the two, and pretty consistently remains in Rome once he's established himself with Pompey

The Political Role of Women of the Roman Elite, with Particular Attention to the Autonomy and Influence of the Julio-Claudian Women (44 BCE to CE68), Ilona Zager

The Defeat of Rome: Crassus, Carrhae and the Invasion of the East, Gareth C. Sampson

and when he dies and Caesar and Pompey become the leading powers in Rome, Pompey is the one who stays IN Rome and is trusted with the well being of the house, so to speak, but with considerably less success than Crassus had at balancing everything out (the grading rubric: gang warfare is fine, civil war is catastrophic failure)

Plutarch, Pompey

the main difference between Crassus and Pompey is that Crassus preferred to stay in Rome and Pompey was not cut out for (gestures vaguely) all of that

#another thing that's fun about caesar is that he has sulla comparisons going on so it's like. crassus and pompey never really #uhhhhhh escaped the shadow of sulla. in crassus' case it's more like he went BACK to sulla via caesar #because he has the first connection to caesar. pompey comes later #and with pompey there was that whole 'rising-setting sun' theme between him and sulla. only in the end. the newer better sulla came out #winning. so the rising sun gave way to what was previously the setting sun. or something like that. its a circle! #Crassus-Pompey worked bc it was it was moving forward from sulla. Crassus-Caesar worked because Sulla had his hands in Crassus #in some kind of way. Caesar-Pompey on their own was doomed because now It's About The Ghost Of Sulla Eating You #ask tag

[ghoul-haunted]

Is there something you would recommend reading for someone with very basic knowledge of classical history bc I wanna feel the emotions you’re feeling but damn idk what you’re talking about

mshshsdhdhgh I also don't know what I'm talking about half the time, but yeah!

so my interest in the classics is driven largely by an interest in Themes, Tragedy, and the Renaissance, which makes it a little difficult to recommend things to read because I think that even tax records are FASCINATING if I can connect it to either a Theme or a Tragedy that has my attention at that moment

if there was anything specific that I've been yelling about on this blog that piqued your curiosity, let me know and I can recommend a starter kit for that in particular! I have no formal background in classical history, and a lot of my interest was reverse engineered from the Renaissance, so I have absolutely no idea what a baseline for classical history knowledge is at any level and I tend to just. assume that I'll either fill in the blanks as I read a book or dive into whatever it is I don't know later and let it fully consume my brain.

onwards!

if you're already familiar with tragedies and epics, thematic discussions (mostly Roman literature) with Ancient Greek history thrown in for Flavor™:

Statius and Virgil: The Thebaid and the Reinterpretation of the Aeneid, Randall T. Ganiban

Donald Kagan's writing on the Peloponnesian War

The Plague of War: Athens, Sparta, and the Struggle for Ancient Greece, Jennifer Roberts

Pestilence and the Body Politic in Latin Literature, Hunter H. Gardner

Conspiracy Narratives in Roman History, VE Pagan

Unspoken Rome: Absence in Latin Literature and its Reception, Tom Geue

Incest, Cannibalism, and The Gods: The Rise of the House of Atreus & The Gods Show Up Michael Kinnucan

Spartacus, Gladiators, Death and Spectacle:

Spectacles of Death in Ancient Rome, Donald G Kyle

The Game of Death in Ancient Rome: Arena Sport and Political Suicide, Paul Plass

Spartacus and the Slave Wars, Brent Shaw

The Spartacus War, Barry Strauss

the Spartacus episode of Barbarians Rising (content warning for sexual assault)

For the Late Roman Republic:

Robin Seager's translations of Plutarch's Lives

Julius Caesar, the Life and Times of the People's Dictator, Luciano Canfora

The Crowd in Rome in the Late Republic, Fergus Millar (this is for if you're interested in the transitional era between the Roman Republic and the Augustan Age regarding the decline in freedom of speech and political engagement as it turned into an autocracy)

Elizabeth Rawson and Ronald Syme's respective work on Roman history

Citizens of Discord, Rome: and its Civil Wars, Brian Breed, Cynthia Damon, Andreola Rossi

The Augustan Era:

The Lost Memoirs of Augustus: and the Development of the Roman Autobiography, Anton Powell, Christopher Smith

Empire and Memory: The Representation of the Roman Republic in Imperial Culture, Alain M Gowing

Augustan Memory and the Roman Republic, J. Farrell, D. Nelis

Other:

Emotional Trauma in Greece and Rome, Andromache Karanika, Vassiliki Panoussi

The Treatment of War Wounds in Graeco-Roman Antiquity, Christine F. Salazar

Media:

Honestly, like, HBO Rome is a really good time if you haven't seen it

my ask tag over on my other blog also has reading recommendations in it, along with this wall of text I wrote about Brutus and Cassius down in the citations

#long post

[lightdancer1]

The last of these three is about one Gnaius Pompeius Adulescentulus Carnifex:

Last of the trio for today (and I've started on the fourth about Gaius Julius Caesar) is this one on Gnaius Pompeius Adulescentulus Carnifex. Pompey was both the son of another of the overmighty generals who fought a very brief war and then died of plague before whatever he intended to happen would happen, one Gnaius Pompeius Strabo, and the protege of Lucius Cornelius Sulla. In his lifetime until the very end he, not Caesar, was the man of the hour and the man who was amassing ever greater power to a point that it seemed to be his destiny, not that of the impoverished aristocrat Caesar, to determine affairs.

As it was Pompey became in spite of himself the champion of the Republic, held to be just as much a potential Emperor in the making as the man who beat him, and then lost the war. The relative merits of Caesar and Pompey and their visions in the end hinged on their abilities to lead armies and win wars and in that Caesar was infinitely the superior of Pompey and thus the Republic died at Pharsalus.

Pompey, like a few other historical figures, including his immediate successor in relative role Mark Antony, is held as a great example of the 'what might have been' more than what he did. And among his real roles in history that endured long after his death was ensuring Roman control of the Mediterranean, the Nile, and into the interior of the Middle East, replacing the old Greek dynasts with the Roman system that would last until the Battle of the Yarmuk marked its own overthrow.

8/10.

#lightdancer comments on history #book reviews #roman republic #gnaeus pompeius magnus

[tasenda]

#overpopulation #nature #earth #animals #human #extinction #disaster

[imjustheretoseetheprivateblogs]

My Ideal Crew for a Batman movie

Director: Marc Forster

Composer: Roque Banos

Cinematographer: Jonathan Sela

Screenplay Writer: Andrew Kevin Walker

Costume Designer: Ellen Mirojnick

Production Designer: Chris Seagers

#Fancast #Batman #Marc Forster #Quantum of Solace #Christopher Robin #Roque Banos #Evil Dead 2013 #In the Heart of the Sea #Jonathan Sela #hobbs and shaw #law abiding citizen #Andrew Kevin Walker #Se7en #The Wolfman (2010) #Ellen Mirojnick #The Greatest Showman #behind the candelabra #Chris Seagers #x-men first class #Fant4stic

[yoyo12x13]

A look through the family photo albums of famous brothers in pro sports

A look through the family photo albums of famous brothers in pro sports

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Gordie, Dan, Chris, Rob and Glenn Gronkowski

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#Brook Lopez #Corey Seager #custom #Derek Watt #Giannis Antetokounmpo #J.J. Watt #Jason Kelce #Kyle Seager #Malcolm Subban #P.K. Subban #Rob Gronkowski #Robin Lopez #Shaquem Griffin #Shaquill Griffin #T.J. Watt #Taylor Rogers #Thanasis Antetokounmpo #Travis Kelce #Tyler Rogers

[slytherbun]

wait what don’t you like about ava? sorry i’m just curious i’ve never met someone in the fandom who wasn’t a fan of her

if i remember correctly — her flirting with connor (reminds me of seager with kelly) when he was still involved with robin. u could feel the sexual tension. and then her ego...it always irked me cause she came off rude. 😵‍💫

#anon asks

[catilinas]

hey! i just got into roman history and i see that a lot of people keep this same portrayal of cicero: good, catilina: bad and at first i thought so too but your blog made me think that catilina might not be the worst guy after all. can you explain how you got into that state of mind?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA my blog is fulfilling its true purpose.......

i read the historical fiction novel catilina’s riddle by steven saylor. specifically i read it almost immediately after reading robert harris’ cicero trilogy, and got such whiplash from the different characterisations by each author that i ended up reading. a lot of stuff about the catilinarian conspiracy and concluding that one thing that catilina definitely is is underrated

it’s easy to think cicero is good, catilina is bad, when it was cicero who “won”, both historically and in having his views survive. and even if people don’t see cicero as good, they can still judge him by what he actually did and said. we could maybe judge catilina based on things other than what cicero (and sallust) said if we could look at all his actions..... but the most interesting thing about catilina is that he failed!!!

if you put cicero saying catilina was badwrongevil to the side, what is there to judge catilina on? we don’t know exactly what he was trying to do, and we don’t know if he Could have succeeded, and we don’t know if his success would have been a good thing. catilina is interesting because there’s this huge gap where what he would have done goes, and that gap is full of room for Sexy Interpretations! historical interpretations yea, but also...... i’m obsessed with interpretations of catilina in fiction

but basically! as soon as you stop taking cicero at his word that He’s Good Because He Saved The Res Publica From The Evil Catilina, that view starts to fall apart. 

hope this made sense! some things i read were:

Catiline - Barbara LevickCatilina and the Execution of M. Marius Gratidianus - Bruce MarshallIn Defence of Catiline - Walter Allen JrIusta Catilinae - Robin SeagerCatilina’s Riddle - Steven Saylorand a whole bunch of weird early plays

#horrible horrible catiline. wow! #catilinaria #beeps #Anonymous

[kasakitan]

cassius in plutarch’s crassus, part vi [trans. robin seager]

#p!marcus licinius crassus #p!c.cassius longinus #p!octavian the legate #event!crassus' parthian campaign #a!plutarch #category!historical accounts #year!53 BCE

[just-late-roman-republic-things]

Forget Julius, Augustus and Cicero, my Roman idol is the housewife Vistilia, who legalized her extramarital affair by publicly registering as a prostitute.

(Robin Seager, Tiberius, p.118)

#vistilia #get it girl #ancient rome #robin seager #just roman memes #jlrrt reads #my edits

[brother-emperors]

Do you have any thoughts or sources for Pompey and his general reaction around Crassus and him just ... breaking the pattern and leaving for Parthia? I'm sitting here thinking about how bewildered he must have been learning about his death and you wrote once that you had him say something like, why did he have to leave and go and die out there, and now what am I going to do with this guy you left me to deal with on my own (vide Caesar). What is it about Pompey that has him running after everyone, Sulla, Crassus, Cicero, the last thing I want to do is have any sort of emotions around this guy 🙄

So, instead of chasing after them, I actually think Pompey has no problem cutting people off when they stoped being useful for him. Which is something Pompey had in common with a certain Mark Antony. ANYWAY. You see Pompey do it with Sulla (the rising and setting sun speech comes to mind), in allying with Lepidus [cos 78] who had become an anti-Sullan partisan [1] [2]. He casts aside Milo, who had worked for Pompey's interests [3], etc.

what strikes me as Interesting is that Pompey marries Publius Licinius Crassus' widow, Cornelia Metella, in a move that was widely regarded by Pompey's peers as Weird, Why Would You Do That, Her Age Makes Her Better Suited As A Match For Your Son. [4]

and that's a mix of, well, Cornelia Metella's father was probably working on arranging some kind of political alliance given the shift in the balance of power in Rome that was going on (wrt Pompey and Caesar becoming the dominant powers), but it's interesting because Pompey cuts out the middle man (his son) and seals the deal himself.

it feels. IT FEELS. in the wider context of other fuckery going on, that Pompey has turned his face from Caesar, especially since his previous marriage was to Caesar's daughter. Maybe he's keeping it in the family! within the Tris Homines, Caesar and Pompey already had a marriage alliance, it’s Crassus’ turn. Neither of them could strike a marriage based alliance with him when he was alive, it was all patronage politics and debts and business there. maybe Pompey is trying to bring Crassus back into it even though he's dead. maybe this is a soft divorce, turning away from any kind of alliance Caesar might have tried to arrange.

maybe Pompey is trying to marry a dead man, or become a dead man himself by occupying Crassus' position in Rome. when the Tris Homines got the Lex Trebonia, Pompey decided to stay in Rome, and on Crassus' death, he now occupies the spot of Rome's leading (with debatable success) domestic politician, previously held by Crassus, and now he has chosen to marry the dead son's widow. after all, before the Tris Homines alliance, it was Pompey and Crassus, Rome's leading general and Rome's leading domestic politician. maybe Pompey's trying to recreate that by grabbing hold of the closest connection to that household left. he was never meant to be what Crassus was, though, so of course it falls to civil war.

anyway. in conclusion. like. if Crassus had a daughter or a sister, I 1000% believe that Pompey would've married her and gone for an even closer 'alliance,' to the detriment of Rome probably. Plutarch Pompey 55 has interesting things to say about the Pompey-Cornelia marriage.

[1] Plutarch, Sulla, 34

[2]

Pompey the Great, Robin Seager

[3]

Pompey the Great, Robin Seager

[4] Plutarch, Pompey 55

#ask tag #indirect kiss meet: indirect marriage! #i have more serious thoughts on pompey's efficiency as a domestic politician #and in turn: caesar's #but it mostly boils down to: neither of them had what crassus had and without someone equally skilled in the arts of business and politics #they were never going to strike a balance. like even pompey-caesar as a duumvirate did not work #the way the crassus-pompey duumvirate did. sort of. they mostly made it work #there was a minimal amount of gang violence in comparison to what the following set of romans got up to

[oldtimefamilybaseball]

I feel I have to apologize ... because I’m a Patriots fan. All parts of my rational brain says to leave them be, to send them back to the well, but ... well, I’m from New England. And how can I turn my back on all those years of loving Drew Bledsoe (otherwise known as the greatest quarterback in the history of mankind.) 

Watching them play the Titans right now though and I find myself being pulled toward the Titans. Why? The Titans’ pants. That sky blue/dark blue combo looks so good. All these years, and it was pants that even made me question it. 

Anyway, how about baseball stuff? Here are some things I’ve done recently. A word of warning: It’s VERY Mariners heavy. 

How well do you know your gorgeous flowing Major League locks? It’s time to prove it with the Taylor Motter or Ben Gamel quiz. 

Who has the best bromance in baseball? The last six weeks of the season proves that it belongs to Nelson Cruz and Kyle Seager. 

Finally, the history of infielders moving to center field isn’t great (Robin Yount excluded), but there’s a few reasons to think Dee Gordon will be a success.

And a few things I didn’t write, but are well worth your time: 

It’s not a baseball story, but Meghan Cameron has been hired as the assistant director of player personnel for Sporting Kansas City. She’s the first woman to have such a high role in an MLS front office. Hopefully there will be more of this to come. 

More reasons why Joey Votto is great. 

Very important content alert: The ERAs that have never existed. 

#mlb #baseball #top bar

[luxuryt-shirt]

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Especially the scene where Robin Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball T-Shirt . is going back and forth between Mrs. Doubtfire and the dad in his apartment. The lady coming to check out his new place for the court order accidentally steps on a mousetrap and the “dad”, (Robin Williams), says: “If you wanted some cheese you should have just asked. I remember laughing so hard during that movie that I had tears streaming down my face. Both my brother and I had stomach aches from laughing so much. It was the best bonding experience between a 10-year-old Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball T-Shirt, hoodie, sweater, longsleeve and ladies t-shirt When Craig Robinson’s character sticks his hands in the Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball TShirt . and cheese, when they have the fight at Red’s house, and all of the dialogue in general, I’d never laughed so hard in a movie theater. How on Earth was that the tipping point? The decapitation, the zombie condom filled with cum, the douche literally shoving up the cashier’s asshole, the surprisingly gory scene where the food is being prepared, Seth Rogan’s acting, the juice box rape scene… that was all fine? I didn’t have the pleasure of seeing it in the theater because I was nine years old when it came out, but when I watched Noises Off for the first time, I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard, I was missing bits. I had tears streaming down my face and my sides hurt. If you haven’t seen it, rent it right now. Read the full article

[tshirttrend]

Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball T-Shirt

Especially the scene where Robin Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball T-Shirt . is going back and forth between Mrs. Doubtfire and the dad in his apartment. The lady coming to check out his new place for the court order accidentally steps on a mousetrap and the “dad”, (Robin Williams), says: “If you wanted some cheese you should have just asked. I remember laughing so hard during that movie that I had tears streaming down my face. Both my brother and I had stomach aches from laughing so much. It was the best bonding experience between a 10-year-old Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball T-Shirt, hoodie, sweater, longsleeve and ladies t-shirt When Craig Robinson’s character sticks his hands in the Seager Smooth L.A. Baseball TShirt . and cheese, when they have the fight at Red’s house, and all of the dialogue in general, I’d never laughed so hard in a movie theater. How on Earth was that the tipping point? The decapitation, the zombie condom filled with cum, the douche literally shoving up the cashier’s asshole, the surprisingly gory scene where the food is being prepared, Seth Rogan’s acting, the juice box rape scene… that was all fine? I didn’t have the pleasure of seeing it in the theater because I was nine years old when it came out, but when I watched Noises Off for the first time, I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard, I was missing bits. I had tears streaming down my face and my sides hurt. If you haven’t seen it, rent it right now. Read the full article

[garland-on-thy-brow]

Pompeius desecrated the sanctuary of the temple, probably out of intellectual curiosity

Robin Seager, “Pompey the Great: A Political Biography”

[the sound of multiple facepalms]

#gnaeus pompeius magnus #judaea #articles/books #cato me observavit