#rtd1

[leikeliscomet]

“But We Love Martha Jones!” - The Doctor Who Fandom’s Selective Memory of Racism

Be aware that this article contains explicit examples of anti-black racism and misogynoir.

**Contents** Intro 1. Everybody Hates Martha 2. Utopia-ish 3. Martha vs Bill 4. Martha Triumphant?

Intro

To say being a Martha Jones fan from 2007-2017 was hard would be an understatement. The fandom claimed she was too clingy. Too jealous of Rose. Too bitter. Too bad a companion. For as long as I can remember, Martha Jones wasn’t just an unpopular companion - she was THE unpopular companion. So this recent increase in “my issues with [insert companion of colour here] isn’t about race. Everybody loved Martha Jones!” has me raising an eyebrow. Freema Agyeman as part of Ofcom’s Diversity In Broadcasting Event answered a question on her time as Doctor Who’s first Black companion. She describes her time as “good and bad”. She handled the criticism of Martha as a character “but the racism… yeah, yeah couldn’t rationalise that” as she pauses in the video. In the silence we get a clear answer - Freema Agyeman did not have an easy time as Doctor Who’s first Black companion. So when I see comments about how much she was loved, or how no one knew what Freema was going through when speaking out about the racism she experienced, or “My sus posts about Ryan & Yaz aren’t racist! I loved Martha!” I, and many other Black/mixed Black fans and other fans of colour have bad tastes in our mouths. We remember the real history of how Martha Jones was treated - and her history wasn’t a kind one.

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#martha jones #freema agyeman #doctor who #new who #doctor who fandom #doctor who analysis #dr who fandom #dw fandom #fandom racism #rtd era #rtd critical #fandom analysis #fandom history #fandom colourism #black representation #rtd #rtd1 #fandom antiblackness #antiblackness #colourism

[orbemsolis]

10 being comfortable enough to let Rose refer to their adventures as dates was a whole entire mood.

#doctor who #dw #new who #rose tyler #9th doctor #ninth doctor #10th doctor #tenth doctor #nuwho #rtd1

[shaunabutcher]

started my doctor who rewatch in order to get hype for RTD2 and i spotted this parallel, and my god do i love this show.

#doctor who #thirteenth doctor #ninth doctor #jodie whittaker #christopher eccleston #dw parallels #9th doctor #13th doctor #flux #RTD1 #doctor who: s1

[thenotoriousscuttlecliff]

I see so many talk about RTD1 as if it looked like Season 1 for the entire duration, but it just didn't. There was a lot of trial and error in that early seasons as they figured out how to make the show and refined things as they went. In fact, they were sometimes refining so quickly that the end of Doomsday doesn't even match the start of The Runaway Bride.

#doctor who #dw #rtd1 #you can tell by season 3 that the bbc was really fully invested in that show #it starts to look a lot more polished #and then they go the hd cameras for the specials #if rtd had done the 5th season it still would've look a lot better than his first four #despite what many think he did not set out to make the show look bad #he wanted to look like a well made modern action/sci-fi drama #and end all the jokes about dw just being about wobbly sets #he wanted people to take the show seriously #and he succeeded #it is just that we're now looking back at it from 18 years later #which is a longer gap than between survival and rose #in fact you do see this same kind of evolution in classic who #the way the hartnell stories were shot was completely different from how the troughton stories were #while the shows budget has never been huge #it has always changed and adapted with the times

[of-monsters-and-werewolves]

#polls #tumblr polls #my polls #doctor who #new who #rtd #rtd era #rtd1 #rtd1 era #russell t davies #moffat era #moffat #steven moffat #chibnall era #chibnall #chris chibnall #nuwho #doctor who fandom

[nat-20s]

RTD if you're listening 🙏🙏🙏🙏 you've given me everything I could ever want for Donna and I cannot thank you enough for that. Now please let me hold Apollo's dodgeball and manifest an on screen apology from followed by actually healthy friendship with The Doctor for my queen Martha Jones

#my tin foil hat conspiracy is we didnt really get anything about martha in the specials #because we're seeing her again REAL SOON so like #her suprise appearance is gonna drop even HARDER #please please please this is the one remaining thread from RTD1 era that i want fixed please please please #ALSO i would like to see donna and martha interact again. that would be the cherry on top like arent they technically coworkers now?? #russellllllll pretty pretty pretty pleaee #doctor who #martha jones

[corallapis]

'noo the new tardis is too white she's too clean' ok pls get off my gifset -_-

#go rewatch rtd1 grunge era #some of us are FIVE LOVERS #dw #dw spoilers

[quantumshade]

#i mean he would have done it bad anyway. so maybe it's a good thing he didn't even try. #they have the doctor (played by a cisgender woman) say ''i used to be a bloke'' like three times and that's IT. #AND it's played as a joke! #like. with everything chibnall said about trying to be inclusive and have ''lgbt representation across the spectrum'' (interview from 2018) #there really weren't any trans people in there huh #doctor who #chibnall critical #thirteenth doctor #delia.txt #once again me saying this is not saying rtd1 or moffat eras were better etc etc. hate that i have to disclaim that every single time.

[aq2003]

i say this 100% unironically and as someone who very recently watched rtd1 era twice over; if you think the writing quality of the 60th specials is any worse than the episodes from rtd1 era you either a) need to rewatch all of rtd1 (yes all of it, not just cherry-picked clips), b) are unable to recognize you have outgrown the show and lost your sense of whimsy, or c) are a conservative offended that the progressive sci-fi show is progressive and looking for any reason to hate it. or some combination of these 3 things

#dr who #they are written with like. the EXACT style of flair and camp/silliness as the best from rtd1 era #the only substantial difference to me is that the 60th specials are paced incredibly fast #while mostly this is a good thing and you're not bored whatsoever at any point watching them #i do feel like the giggle couldve benefited from like. an extra 20 minutes. however! #the criticism of 'the 60th has bad writing :(' is. blkjsgjkwf. ok. like. One line was substantially bad. the rest was peak #like if i could put them in my ten era tierlist they safely fall among my absolute favorite episodes from there #the star beast and the giggle are up there w most of series 4 + gridlock and 42. wby is midnight/turn left tier. #if not even better bc (and this is completely personal taste) i LOVE the cosmic horror. it didnt work for me in impossible planet/satan pit #but it ABSOLUTELY worked for me in wby. the setting the mystery the tension and UGH the acting. david and catherine put in the sauce. #14 era

[oodlyenough]

thrilled to once again be the Fake Fan polluting the doctor who fandom by watching the new stuff without taking all the prerequisite courses

#life finds a way... #actually the funniest thing is chibnall who doesn't even exist in canada afaik #rtd1 + moffat are on amazon prime #classic who is on tubi #rtd2 is on disney+ #but chibnall who died on the way to its home planet idk

[sallysellsseashellssundays]

After hearing horror stories about Chibnall's era and knowing nearly nothing about the companions I gotta say I find Graham to be very likeable, Ryan was quite endearing in "The Ghost Monument" and "The Tsuranga Conundrum" and I think Yaz's development will come later but she seems nice so far

I did skip "Rosa" and "Arachnids in the UK" but if the four episodes I've seen are representative of Jodie's era then it isn't nearly as awful as people painted it out to be????

Demons of the Punjab was especially good, I'd say one of my favorites so far

#doctor who #dw watch #maybe it's supposed to get worse and that's what ppl mean when they talk about how much they hate it #honestly was expecting a train wreck from reviews i've seen #it hasn't hooked me like rtd1 era but generally enjoyable so far #thirteenth doctor #my ramblings

[leikeliscomet]

Feels like a bummer most of what I loved about RTD1 is meaningless now.

Ten's arc is cautionary tale about how a man can be defeated by his own hubris and what the dangers of a hero complex are- wait he's back now and all he had to was eat some cauliflower cheese with the Nobles and his depression's gone.

Donna's ending shows the dangers of mimicking the Doctor and the struggle of living up to the title- no actually, she remembers everything. She's fine all she had to do was get married have a kid and let it go, frozen style.

Rose's story shows ordinary working-class people can do anything as long as your name is engraved in the Doctor's subconscious and manifested in the metacrisis. Pfft, obviously!

The only things intact are Nine and Martha's endings and that's only because Eccleston refuses to return because of his broken relationship with RTD (as he should) and RTD's reluctance to include Martha in his own specials. Even though these reasons suck I'm kinda glad there's low chances of their endings changing because that's what made them so good. The only change for Martha I'll tolerate is the Doctor apologising for how he treated her in s3 but Nine's was honestly perfect for his character. He not only found love in having companions again and finding love in travelling the universe again, but he loved himself. It's not Wattpad fluff that undoes all the bad stuff but he still finds a sense of peace. Even though his incarnation still dies, right at the end, he experiences true peace for the first time in that incarnation's life. That's the best happy ending in any RTD era for me.

#doctor who #rtd era #rtd critical #martha jones #rose tyler #donna noble #tenth doctor #10th doctor #9th doctor #ninth doctor #rtd1

[orbemsolis]

Christmas Invasion BTS edit. Because why not.

#doctor who #dw #new who #rose tyler #10th doctor #tenth doctor #nuwho #rtd1 #billie piper

[phyrexian-lesbian]

the timeless child twist added more to the canon story of doctor who, and opened up possibilities for the future.

bigeneration erases one of the most important elements of doctor who: change. it makes each doctors ending and final scene cheap and pointless. the timeless child did not change canon. bigeneration did. i hope rtd redeems himself in the next season.

and i hate being that fan who dislikes the writing. but this just makes every doctors sacrifice null and void. i could accept the twist if it was just 14 that bigenerated. and then the regeneration process would continue as normal. but the fact that rtd splintered the entire timeline and probably now every single doctor from this point on will bigenerate. it’s just cheap. it’s bad writing. and rtd was doing so good with the sixtieth. he seemed to be learning from his mistakes and respecting his predecessors. but then he made his biggest mistake again. instead of letting the doctor regenerate- specifically david tennant regenerate- he changed the canon again. and rather than letting a character die, he made it all happy and okay and everything is fine. it’s stupid. i miss moffat.

please if you think you can change my mind about this go on. i’m disappointed and mad. and i want to watch my favourite show again.

#doctor who #fourteenth doctor #fifteenth doctor #bigeneration? #“death is beautiful and sad said me #no said rtd #this is everything i didn��t like with rtd1 #and it’s happening again #at least moffat had the balls to have sad main character deaths #we need moffat back

[thenotoriousscuttlecliff]

2000s RTD would've kept Davina McCall dead.

Man is getting soft in his old age.

#doctor who #dw #dw spoilers #rtd2 really is a lot less blood thirsty than rtd1 #think this is the first christmas special he's done where no one died

[3lostyears]

LUMIC: You are proud of your emotions. DOCTOR: Oh, yes. LUMIC: Then tell me, Doctor. Have you known grief, and rage, and pain? DOCTOR: Yes. Yes I have. LUMIC: And they hurt? DOCTOR: Oh, yes.

And if I said this is the Doctor's actual turning point in Season 2 instead of The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit? In this essay I will -

#idiots lantern is a DATE and this is why! #rtd1 era villains are obvs the daleks for various reasons. in text it's the time war and rose is linked to that #but the cybermen ARE ten's villains to me. they are his direct foil #the most human doctor up against these former emotionless humans #he CANNOT fall in the satan pit if doesn't decide this here. that living with rose is worth the pain #this is the shift. this is why they are close and intimate in the second half of s2 #this doctor died for rose so he gets to live for rose. he WANTS to live for rose #and while i don't like the next doctor of course these same cybermen would be there #at the start of the end #thank you for coming to my tedtalk i'm sorry i can't gif #doctor who