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historical-paramedics · 15 days

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My thoughts on honour in rdr2 is not that it decides whether Arthur is a good man or a bad man because I feel like that doesn't really exist there's just people. Who do good things and do bad things and are a weird mix of the things they've done and experienced.

And I think for Arthur it's not that his low honour is a bad man it's that he's decided he's a bad man and doesn't give himself the chance to be anything other than that. I feel like the conversations with sister calderón is really important in presenting this, because she points out to him that people are more complicated than 'good', 'bad' like how she herself used to do bad things but she certainly isn't a bad person.

This is the same for Arthur he's not bad in low honour or even good in high honour the difference is that in high honour through things like talking to sister calderón at the train station Arthur allows himself the opportunity to do good things but in low honour he already believes he doesn't deserve it/isn't worth the effort and so doesn't give himself the chance to try.

Feel like it also comes down to a lot of how Arthur sees himself, we already know he has absolutely no self esteem from the way he talks to himself in the mirror/his journal. So maybe low honour is just Arthur with worse self esteem and not believing himself capable of being anything other than 'big scary outlaw'.

But also something about how no matter the honour he isn't just 'big scary outlaw' no matter how you play him or wtvr because no matter the honour Charles says "you're not as tough and dense as that" so whatever the honour charthur rules. That's right this was a charthur post the whole time (I'm rapidly going more insane someone switch me off)

Idk this might be really obvious or I could be way off the mark this is just some unhinged rambles from my rdr rotten brain 👍

#i love you low honour and high honour arthur #rdr2 #arthur morgan #red dead redemption 2 #charthur #charles smith #sister calderon rdr2 #cant be arsed to reread this lols it cohld be complete nonsense <3

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dulcemapis · 12 days

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I graduated today. here's my cap

#YES I know its not a diamond shape i couldnt bring myself to do it #idc #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 #arthur morgan #sister calderon #mother superior calderon #my art #traditional art

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sunfir3rain · 4 months

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i will never stop thinking about mary's last letter. how soulcrashing it was. the way that she now knew that it was over, that even though she tried to give it a one last chance not so long ago, she did not suceed and had to move on, even though it hurt- even though it could have been pretty obvious that arthur would not change his ways. the "i was just starting to dream the silliest and softest of dreams" line. it DESTROYS me. she was still dreaming about a kinder world in which they did not have to separate and in which arthur would have choosen some other, less dangerous ways. it's silly because it's unreal, it can't happen, but is it a sweet thought? THE ring. the fact that she still had it somewhere and was thinking about him all this time. and to top that off: "there is a good man within you, arthur, but he is wrestling with a giant", a line so real and so painful because we can hear it during arthur's last ride

#tfw you get mary's goodbye letter and have THE converdation with sister calderon during the same day #rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #arthur morgan #mary linton

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moonah-rose · 1 year

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#rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 spoilers #the sister calderon part isnt here as just about the ending #arthur morgan #john marston #dutch van der linde #tilly jackson #jack marston #abigail roberts #sadie adler

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12timetraveler · 1 year

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Sister Calderon tells Arthur at one point that she used to do "horrible things". And in past playthroughs I've always shrugged that off as like "oh maybe she slept around or maybe she lied a lot or did some other things that may be horrible to a nun," but then I started thinking about how she knows exactly what to say to such an outlaw like Arthur and I started wondering

What if those horrible things were like... Actually horrible? Like what if she was an assassin for one of the past revolutions in Mexico? Or what if she ran moonshine? Or some other crime life like that.

In short, I hope red dead redemption 3 might cover what she may have done in her life. She was in rdr1 and 2 so she may as well have some moments in 3. I'd love to see a young Caldrón terrorizing some people and then finding god or whatever.

#sister Calderon #rdr2 #rdr1 #undead nightmare

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byrnisonferret · 2 years

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Bothers and sisters, one and all

Brother Dorkings found him

#arthur morgan #brother dorkins #sister calderon #rdr2 #red dead redemption 2

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markodragic · 1 year

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it can be either because you love their mission(s) or because you love the character themselves!

#rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #albert mason #marko dragic #hamish sinclair #charlotte balfour #charles chatenay #and so on hkhkhk

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pcdl6 · 4 months

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One explanation to the "You have to love yourself a fire" speech

Reverend Swanson is one of the most important characters in RDR2 for what he represents.

It's interesting to think about it - Why did the RDR2 promotion team use the "You have to love yourself a fire" speech out of all the campfire speeches in the third trailer, along with Hosea, Arthur and Dutch? Why does the Reverend, of all people, give the speech? Why is he the other one "enlightened" by Sister Calderon, who also restored faith in Arthur? And by faith, I don't mean what Dutch keeps yelling about, but it's also what Dutch talks about.

Swanson speaks of the change in Western philosophy - Marx saw it. Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche wrote about it. Heidegger went back to it. God is dead, and from that point onward, the world moves into a realm beyond. Thus, "you have to love yourself a fire."

God is dead. Thus, the moral compass now lies now in each and every one, because that definite point in morality is now gone. So that each one becomes their own god, but to be aware of this, each is isolated from everything holy. When you become like god, where is your guidance? Each choice now weighs down your consciousness - what good is being the God if you have to carry the burden of your sins?

Thus, one of the themes in RDR2 can be boiled down to one line in Unshaken: He who drinks from the deep water, may he know the depth of the well. Or, in Nietzsche's words, if you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you.

#rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #reverend swanson

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arthurmorganwateringhole · 2 years

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Hey I loved your fic 🥺 Do you have any writing advice for how you wrote Arthur? I just love your style in general too. I want to improve but I feel like no one likes my work.

Aww hey there anon! Thank you for your kind words. First of all, I want to emphasize that you shouldn't beat yourself up about not being a popular writer. I myself struggle with it, as I never get big numbers on my fics (believe it or not, my fics tend to stay in the 10-50 kudos range and under 2000 hits). Yet you admire my writing... hmm it's almost as if there's no correlation between technique and popularity lol! jkjkjk but for real, there really isn't. So don't beat yourself up. Write for yourself. Write something you love. That's the first step, because if you're doing it just for clout, then the "fan" part of fanfiction loses all meaning.

As for how I wrote Arthur, that's very flattering of you to say, but tbh I think emulating a character's voice comes with constant exposure to the character. I spent over 200 hours on RDR2 (I know some of you have spent WAY more than that). Really listening to the structure of his sentences goes a long way. Pay attention to the contractions of his slang, or the contexts for when he shows off his witticism. For example, I noticed he's often sarcastic with religious figures (sister calderon and the turtle cult people), so I likewise tried to extend that to Arthur by having him say something irreverent about the pastor in my fic. Basically, if you can identify when and how he says something, you're 90% of the way there.

Now, relatedly, I do think the best way you can improve your writing is to challenge yourself into reading difficult books. That is the best way to learn to write, and consciously soaking up the technique of the giants on whose shoulders you are standing on will do wonders not only for the flow of your diction but the way you can play with vocabulary (because imo, playing with words and forming cinematic images are something I LOVE to do, and my inspos often do that in their prose).

My biggest inspiration is Edith Wharton. Her work captures environmental tableaus well, and the wit of her characters inform how I think of dialogue. Character dialogue is as much about what they don't say as what they do actually say (i.e. do they hide something but say it via body language or gestures?).

That said, try not to overwhelm yourself. Find an author you love, learn from their example, pick apart the language of their work (for syntax, metaphors, etc.). Familiarize yourself with the more technical aspects of writing, in the same way fanartists emphasize learning your "fundamentals." Writing imo is an underappreciated skill, and reading with an eye for analysis likewise takes greater skill. It takes time. Do what you love. Learn from those you love. Everything will fall into place.

#writing advice

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heyyoudevilslittlesister · 2 years

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I love seeing Arthur get hugs.

Arthur needs all the hugs.

#arthur morgan #rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 gifs #arthur morgan gif #Sister Calderon #Jamie Gillis

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reddead2photos · 2 years

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"Mr. Morgan! Are you okay?"

"Never better. What are you doing here?"

"Well, I'm on my way down to Mexico... They're finally sending me on a mission."

#rdr2 photography #rdr2 photomode #rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 arthur #arthur morgan #rdr2 spoilers #sister calderon #rdr2 sister calderon

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bonniemacfarlane · 3 years

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no no she was right. take a gamble that love exists and do a loving act

#rdr2 #my most favorite quote thank you so much sister calderon

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amorgansgal · 2 years

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🥐 Your favourite quote from any character out of the game?

Definitely, Sister Calderon's, "There is nothing to be afraid of, Mr. Morgan. Take a gamble that love exists, and do a loving act."

Just made me cry so much, but thought it was a beautiful message and something really lovely to take away from the game.

#sister calderon #arthur morgan #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 #ask game

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reddeadreference · 2 years

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Of Men and Angels

-Click here to return to the index for Stranger Missions-

Arthur can find Sister Calderón asking for donations outside the church. The two sit and talk.

“Religion is just a word... hearts are rarely pure but equally they are rarely impure either.” ... “To me...God is people, and people are God, so... we must all do what we can.”