#the definitive is eric ives who oh no said in his personal opinion that his favorite was more attractive in personality and appearance

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What are your thoughts on Jane Boleyn, and the role she supposedly played in the fall of 3 Queens (Anne Boleyn, Anna of Cleves, Katheryn Howard)? Do you think she has been too maligned by historians for centuries, especially when it comes to the relationship with the Boleyns (it seems she got along with Anne)?

Now that I've read both works and compared them side by side, I suppose I would say my stance on Jane Boleyn falls somewhere in between that of Julia Fox and James Taffe ('Somewhere in between' is not, btw, Alison Weir); although closer to the former than the latter. Offering critique of both biographies, I would say that of JF is too apologetic (smoothing out wrinkles that exist in her arguments rather than acknowledging them) and JT is too severe.

Especially when it comes to the relationship with the Boleyns? Yes and no. Obviously she was married to George, she sent him a message of comfort while he was in the Tower, and wore only black the rest of her life, which was quite the potent statement. However, I would allow for the possibility that she potentially, inadvertently implicated him or AB (ie, testimony of hers was twisted to suit the crown's case). This is where I think there are flaws in the arguments of some of her defenders-- they cannot allow for even that possibility and so make claims that disallow it; some of which are untrue. 'Jane was only blamed as a means of absolving Henry in the whitewash of Elizabethan propagandists' is not true. Johannes Sleidan in 1545 claimed that Anne and George died by her 'false accusation'. Sleidan was a Reformer, so he would have been more sympathetic towards the plights of these two than the average person, and would have spoken to others that were as well, but the motivation to vindicate Elizabeth did not yet exist; she was at this point the very unlikely third in line to the throne.

I do appreciate that you said 'got along' with Anne, not 'besties', because...it's possible they were very close, certainly, but we must also allow for the possibility of animosity. The linchpin for the argument of closeness is the report from Chapuys that they 'conspired together' to banish Henry's mistress from court. Was this the precise truth? Considering the source I'm doubtful. Probably there was a lady Henry was serving at this time (although that we never have a name makes the story somewhat suppositious), but did they need to have 'conspired together' against her for Jane to be banished from court (which is what happened instead)? Jane might have merely made Anne aware of her, and Henry finding out that she'd been the source would have been enough for banishment. Or, as was presented plausibly in Adrienne Dillard's fictional rendition, Jane might have dropped hints to Cromwell that this mistress was a supporter of the two exiled and contumacious royal women that were Anne's adversaries, Cromwell might have passed this along to Henry, and Henry might have banished Jane for shattering the illusion that this woman had no independent ambitions or ulterior motives and merely let him hit for the sheer pleasure of his company.

If this was evidence of closeness, and it might be, then we also have to remember that the end result was Jane's banishment from court, and that there is, as JT fairly pointed out, no evidence that any of the Boleyns spoke in her defense, favor, or for her return. It would take an extremely magnanimous person to accept all that with equanimity and not feel any resentment whatsoever. So, if there was intimacy, there might have also been rift.

That leaves the question: enough 'rift' for her to seek vengeance? I doubt that much for all the reasons Fox outlines in her biography, but at the same time I wish there was not this relentless push to only defend women that we assert 'deserve' defense, on the premise they were entirely selfless, accepted every insult with grace, never kept any grudges, never had personal ambitions (the actions she took during the queenships of those you mentioned would suggest otherwise), mixed emotions, or conflicting loyalties; that we could acknowledge that acknowledging the agency of historic women also means acknowledging they were capable of making mistakes.

#anon #it feels like an 'overcorrection' to some degree. if that makes sense? #altho that's generally what ppl say about AB too and i generally think they're wrong lol #'waaah AB apologism waaaaahhh joanna denny wahhhhhhhhhhhh h/ayley nolan' #bitch. no one serious is taking those seriously. if joanna denny was the definitive AB bio that would be one thing #the definitive is eric ives who oh no said in his personal opinion that his favorite was more attractive in personality and appearance #than the other...oh my god that is the worst thing anyone has every said in the HISTORY OF TIME #are y'all this sensitive in real life bcus fr. #how do you bitches SURVIVE.................. #anyway what i was initially going to say after coming back to this: #*ever #like the way this figure is used to have it both ways really bothers...me? #i think there's some ambiguity here but like #i read someone claim that JS must have been 'so sweet' bcus otherwise JB would not have been her lady in waiting.... #which is like. be fr? if JB loved george and anne she would have hated her lol #or at the very least have been uneasy in her presence (there's a great scene with this in adrienne's sequel btw) #but like...idk man. ppl just don't seem to get how humans worked? or have any sort of emotional; media; literal; literacy? #this was my thing with BSR too 'how dare THEY say henry NEVER loved coa how dare THEY say jane was to blame for anne's miscarriage' #like right...were 'they' saying that or was anne? or was that what anne believed? was the show perhaps from her (gasp) POV and so #these things were portrayed? i mean ffs.... by our literal primary sources those were the things she said. #someone's emotions and beliefs /= infallible unassailable entire truths #nor are they necessarily 'fair' and the same with our judgements. welcome to being a human being #so yeah like re: JB.... #*that she felt like that? was it entirely fair to blame and resent the seymours? #is that necessarily fair? no. how much she did or didn't was probably dependent on how accurate chapuys report was about JS #the extent to which she had disparaged anne #as for the why as JF theorized ; the need of income and the possibility that since cromwell had helped her with income #this was the favor he wanted in return (so her as a spy in the household) #and re: conflicting loyalties ; i mean ...goddamn; people are complex #i think it's entirely possible that JB loved anne but also had this innate sympathy for coa and mary too.

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~Little Boy Blue: Infirmaries & Proposals~

TITLE: Infirmaries and Proposals

CHAPTER NUMBER/ONE SHOT: 4/4

AUTHOR: bookwarm85

WHICH JAI/CHARACTER: Eric & Cam (OFC), Aidan

GENRE: Romance/Fluffy

FIC SUMMARY: Aidan get’s sick

RATING: G- For FLUFF

WORDS: 1,463

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 Eric roared through the compound angry enough to kill whoever or whatever got in his way. He had been away on a mission when he received a text telling him Aidan had been rushed to the infirmary, apparently the cold he had had turned into full blown pneumonia, had dropped everything and started back for Dauntless.

 His fear was only assuaged when Cam had texted him saying she was there with him now and to not break his neck getting here. Truth be told he would do whatever was necessary to get back to his son, his white knuckled grip on the steering wheel never lessened. Since Aidan his whole world had been changed, some people had said Eric had gone soft, and while that used to bother him now he couldn’t care less about their opinions. He loved that little boy, Cam had also became integral part of his life.

 When Eric was away on business which wasn’t often, Cam was his second in command, she was his eyes and ears and protected Aidan like a lioness protecting her cub and to see her protecting his son like that, he had to admit that she was breathtaking, her cheeks flush and her eyes come alive with a fire that took his breath away, and if he were truly honest with himself he had come to care for her as well, though he wouldn’t openly admitted when asked.

  Eric finally made his way to the infirmary with the his signature scowl.

 “Where is he?” he yelled frightening some of the nurses.

“Eric” he heard Cam’s soft voice call.

 His head whipped to the side and he saw Cam standing there holding Aidan’s hand, Aidan was pale and his breathing was labored, it made Eric’s heart fall, they had placed an oxygen mask on him, he knew it was serious because the usually playful Aidan could only lie there, he finally took in Cam’s appearance and her eyes were red like she had been crying which hit Eric even harder.

 “They said his oxygen levels were low and he has an awful rattle in his chest” she informed him her voice cracking slightly and she took a deep measured breath before continuing “They’ve began a round of IV antibiotics as well as steroid breathing treatments, they say we should known with the next 24 if it’s going to help or not” she ran a hand through her hair.

 All of Eric’s anger immediately drained from him leaving him weak as he observed his son.

 Eric ran a hand down his face and turned to see a young blonde nurse coming his way, her figure was something a man would dream about, she had a gentle sway to her hips and full pouty red lips, she smirked as she approached Eric, her expression didn’t go unnoticed by Cam who stiffened her spine at her approach.

 “Hello Eric, my name is Ally and I will be Aidan’s nurse, so if you need anything during my shift let me know” she purred.

 Before he could respond Cam opened her mouth.

 “First of all he is your Leader and you will address him as Mr. Coulter unless instructed otherwise, Second of all if he needs anything I will be sure to let you know” she retorted.

Ally curtly nods before walked away her shoulder slightly hunched.

 “And one more thing “Nurse Ally” if Aidan doesn’t receive the upmost care I will personally hang you over the chasm from that pretty blonde hair of yours”

 Eric smothered the grin that threatened to escape, Cam motioned with her head for Eric to follow her and they both took the two empty seats next to his bed.

 “How’d this happen Cam?” he questioned “I don’t know, it had started out as a cold and I gave him some cough medicine and we made a nest on the couch while he rested, then it seemed like as each day passed he got worse, then earlier this afternoon he had coughed so hard he lost his breath and that’s when I panicked you know” she informed him he could see the sheen of fresh tears in her eyes.

“I knew this was different Eric, I mean he’s been sick before but not like this, not even that really bad ear infection he had, remember I stayed up with him all night?” she reminds. “This is my fault, if I had taken him at the first sign of a sniffle he wouldn’t be here right now” her voice broke on the last part.

“Don’t blame yourself, if you take him at the first sign of a sniffle they can’t properly diagnose him and he wouldn’t receive the right treatment” he replied.

“I know” she titled her head back ridding herself of the threatening tears.

 He took in her tired appearance and sighed.

 “Cam go home and get some sleep I’ve got it covered” he tells her.

“No” she replied

“Cam, you’re exhausted you need to get sleep” Eric reasoned. “I’m...not...leaving” she huffs.

“You know I’m still your leader right? I can order you to go home” Eric threatened.

 That got her attention and her frown deepened, her eyes darken with defiance and her chin tilts up, and that rosy glow floods her cheeks.

 “I’m not leaving Eric and if you dare and try to make me I’ll tear you limb from limb, that’s my heart and soul lying there and not even you can keep me from him” she growled softly.

 And at the moment he was possessed man, he grabbed by the back of the neck and crushed his lips to hers. He couldn’t stop himself even if he had tried he had to kiss her, she awoken something primal in him, the need to protect her and Aidan, she let out a low whimper before she responded to the kiss with equal fervor, Eric reluctantly pulled back remembering where they were, they touched foreheads as they both fought to regain their composure.

 “I wouldn’t dream of keeping you away from him” Eric whispered low enough so only she could hear.

 “Daddy” Eric hears a small voice croak.

They both looked to the bed to see a bleary eyed Aidan staring at them with a small smile.

 “I’m here my little cub” Eric said.

“Mommy?” Aidan called looking directly at Cam who bit her lip.

“Aidan honey I’m not-” she began before Eric cut her off.

“Yeah Mommy’s here too” Eric answered.

 Aidan’s eyes closed and he softly began to snore.

 “Mommy?” Cam inquired with her arms crossed.

“Yeah, you’ll be his Mommy when you and I get married?” Eric replied matter of factly

“Um, I don’t remember you asking me” she snorts.

“It’s a no brainer, you and I make sense” Eric shrugs.

“Eric that’s a lousy proposal” she admonishes obviously irritated.

 Eric bit his lip and puffed out his cheeks.

 “Look, when Aidan came into my life I was known as being a cold and callous person, but when Aidan came along I wanted to prove people wrong, then you came along and things completely changed for me, my priorities changed it was no longer about me or my desires. It’s not about keeping you both happy and safe…” Eric trailed.

Cam sat there in stunned silence as she waited for him to continue.

“I’m not good with emotional displays, well other than anger but, Cam...I love you” he blurted.

 Cam narrowed her eyes at him deciding to let him sweat a little before giving her response.

 “Does this mean I can’t annoy you anymore?” she asked her eyebrow lifted. “Oh you most definitely annoy me, you’re just more tolerable now” he chuckles.

“Well since you put it that way...Yes I will marry you Eric Coulter” she answers.

 You hear a soft breathless giggle coming from the bed and now that Aidan had woken up, it was good to see him smiling even if it was small weak smile. As predicted Aidan made a full recovery and Cam and Eric were married soon after.

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