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Doomed toxic yaoi or something
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milkvans on reddit claiming that max was manipulative and made el break up with mike for no real reason is so funny but it pisses me off so much too?? like are u dense??
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Alright alright alright! Byler fic list #1 is underway!
anything anything your honor college byler is simply. domestic <3 the way they reconnect after forever and slowly get to know each other again, along with the confession being so sweet and them… one of my favorite fics
a johnathan byers pep talk i LOVE the softness in this one and Mikes reaction to the discovery…along with johnathan being an amazing big brother mike never had it feels so in character and i love the sweet happy ending.
everything changes, what a shame i stayed up. ALL NIGHT to read this fic it’s so good. Mike finnally rattles the rocks around in his brain hard enough to have A Thought and wow is he so in love with will. all the little rewritten byler moments and els characterization was MWAH
i’m tearing you asunder pining will!!!! there are a Lot of moments wrapped into the one fic and it’s a must read
i hate accidents (except when we went from friends to this) fucking love college byler… not to spoil the ending but i love this trope but i didn’t know if it could be done with byler but it’s FLAWLESS here… every kiss is memorable and it will have you re-read just to soak in all the details you missed after the twist
stare at pictures of you till i’m blind PONYTAIL MIKE >>>>>> im going to be honest i couldn’t find this fic for a moment and thought it was deleted and wanted to CRY cause it’s such a good re-read… the way will describes mike in the end and how loved he is feed that to me on a silver platter
what it means to be gentle tiny byler <3 the development of the Will Voice and i adore the characterization of Joyce in this one, she’s so loving.
Reblogs are really appreciated- and happy reading!
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In ‘Lucas on the Line,’ Lucas Sinclair experienced countless bouts of racism and micro aggressions including but not limited to:
Had children run away from him and refuse to touch him because they thought his Black skin color would rub off on them. This happened IN THE THIRD GRADE! And he never told his parents about it!
Calmed his anxiety about being the only Black kid in his homeroom class by coming to the realization that since there was no other Black kids that meant he most likely wouldn’t be bombed
Had to install a camera in his locker because his property got defaced by a glitter bomb
Lost his first and only black friend/mentor who supported him thanks to an ACTUAL MAKESHIFT BOMB being installed in his locker that caused a janitor to go to the hospital for 1st/2nd degree burns (and the white boy who did it barely got punished)
Got teased that the only reason he got on the basketball team was because he was Black
Comes to the realization that he might’ve actually only gotten in the team because the coach has a history of recruiting Black boys for the team regardless of their skill level
Gets called an Oreo (for uneducated: white on the inside, black on the outside) by racist bullies. Erica (who apparently has also been called this) sticks up for him and is the only one who understands what the insult means which means Mike and Dustin don’t know/understand the lengths of how deep the racism Lucas experiences in Hawkins on a daily bases
And these aren’t even all of them! These are just examples I had from the top of my head!
And despite all this happening in the book, “fans” have STILL FOUND A WAY to turn this book about Lucas and his struggles as a Black boy in a mostly white suburban town and his deteriorating relationship with Max and make it about Byler!
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The fact that Lucas, one of the only characters of color on this show, can’t have ANYTHING to himself without people using him to push their ships is so aggravating!
He and Erica constantly get shit talked and miss characterized by fans, get excluded/cut out of group shots, and barely get any fanart/fics about them and their struggles compared to the white characters (I could make a whole new post about the terrible way this fandom treats Erica but I won’t do that here). Hell don’t forget that the fandom constantly tries to dispute the racism Lucas received in S2 from Billy was either not really racism, just a moment that Duffer Bros. put in to “ruin” Billy’s character and ultimately can be tossed out and ignored.
The only time I ever see Lucas get any large amount of attention is either due to 1) Lumax (but let’s be honest: 90% of the lumax tag on here isn’t even about them and has now become Elumax 2.0 and most post are people praising ElMax and then being like “oh Lucas/lumax is cute too” in the tags and that’s it). 2) people creating “parallels” of Lumax to their ship of choice (mostly Byler and Mileven) as a way to say that their ship is gonna be canon or 3) to say that he’s bisexual.
And all that is fine and whatever, ship and headcanon things to your hearts content, but if you only care about Lucas if he’s helping push you ship narrative or because you think he’s gay (to the point where some people actually read snippets of the book that talked about Lucas coming to the realization that Black boys like him can be considered attractive and only acknowledge the “queer” reading of the text and completely ignored the big race element that was the main focus), I’m sorry but, that’s not cool. The fact that 95% of the Lucas Sinclair tag isn’t about Lucas himself but white characters like Steve, Eddie, Byler says everything about how the fandom treats him.
I’m just so tired.
Lucas Sinclair deserves the same respect that the white characters get!
I leave you one of my favorite sections of the entire book: Lucas learning to become unabashedly himself:
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Rant over.
Edit: in my blind rage I realized I forgot to edit out the Twitter handle. That’s completely my fault. Please don’t hate that Twitter user. I’m just coming back to fix that.
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“It's not my fault you don't like girls”
Created by: @irinatatarniko2 on Twitter
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You know what I hope we get to see? The coexistence in Will Byers of that kid being emotional as hell and tough as nails. 
He avoided Henry for a week while also communicating through lights and clawing at walls after being kidnapped, he resisted Henry’s possession for a long time and held out like hell even sometimes fighting hard enough to fade back in and momentarily snatch some control, not to mention living with those genuinely dangerous “flashbacks” for a year based on the season 1 finale as well as just living with the constant ability to feel him even after the possession ended. And you bet your ass he cries about that shit. And it isn’t despite the fact that he’s strong. It isn’t just not contradictory to the fact that he’s strong. It’s a big part of why.
Will didn’t lose himself. He didn’t go numb. He didn’t harden. Arguably one of the key differences between him and Henry is that he remained soft. He didn’t just fight to save his own life, he fought to save himself, a fight he continues every day. He is tough because he allows it to hurt.
There are two quotes that came to my mind:
“Hope has dirt on her face, blood on her knuckles, the grit of the cobblestones in her hair, and just spat out a tooth as she rises for another go.”
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“Do you understand the violence it took to become this gentle?”
Interpret them together as you will.
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Will and Mike is going to be so beautiful. Because think about it - the 80s. Will crying in that van is no tragedy. There was no loss of hope. He never had it. Neither of them did. To Will, this is just what was always inevitable. That’s why he holds onto this “keeping childhood” idea and you never hear him mention living next to each other anything truly reminiscent of the future. He never expected anything. He realized he was gay and had feelings for his best friend. He enjoyed the time he had. Then Mike got a girlfriend and he tried to hold on tightly to what they had before but then Mike said they had to grow up some day and it hurt because he knew it was true. He had thought it before, I’m sure. That even may have hurt more than the homophobic comment. Because it wasn’t ill-intended; it wasn’t an insult. It was just a (perceived) truth. He always knew this was coming, some part of him at least. So when Mike needs help with his girlfriend, he helps, he lies for her, and for him, and for the success of their relationship. Because he loves El and he loves Mike. He loves Mike in the way that he wants him to be happy and he assumes that this is how to do that. And if they break up - he won’t assume he has a chance. He’ll assume that he has some more time with Mike before he finds his next girlfriend, future wife, etc. That’s why there needs to be a coming out before a confession and/or why Mike needs to initiate (he has the info via the painting now available to realize that he isn’t completely without chance).
But for Will, this is no tragedy. This is just life, as part of him wanted to try to forget but always knew it was always going to be. And so he makes the best of it. He is sad for himself but he is also happy for them. He only ever steps in personally when their friendship is jeopardized.
But what all this really sets Mike’s reciprocation up to be is a nice surprise. And there’s a certain kind of joy that’s different from relief that he was waiting for. Because he wasn’t waiting for it. I doubt he believed enough to “give up”. This is him getting something he had become contented with never having. And what healing too. Not just of people with experiences like his in those unsafe setting but I feel a certain generation healing too. So many self-aware gay people and lesbians settled and made the best of their situations because realistically, they would never expect more. And Will Byers doesn’t either. But he gets it anyways.
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my contributions to the homophobic dog mike wheeler edition <3
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trolls who r obviously trolling are so funny to me
If you’re a byler I’m gonna assume you’re racist sorry💀.. why do you want will to be gay? So he wouldn’t date the black girl who flirted with him? Umm..
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how did you get into writing fic? i'd love to start but idk even where to begin! I loved adats so I was wondering do you have any advice?
Oh my goodness! I am so flattered you’ve asked me this. Yes, I can absolutely help. I’ll throw a bunch of rambling under the cut.
I started writing fic probably when I was... sixteen years old? A lot of my early works were oneshots. I couldn’t figure out how to do anything plot heavy for the life of me, so I just stuck to AUs or whatever I felt like. I wasn’t in any particular fandom -- I really wrote whatever I had ideas for. I remember I tried once to do a plot-heavy story and I received a review absolutely ripping it to shreds. Like, it was so cruel I cried lol. I ended up deleting the fic. Years later, I get what they were trying to say (basically, more substance, less style), but at the time it cut to the quick. Really, it was only when I was in my twenties that I started writing work that was longer and/or better.
The fandom that helped me actually write plot heavy work was a historical-based fandom. As I’m a historian, it was perfect. I got to use my research skills and knowledge to create works that, above all, aimed to feel authentic. I mainly read historical fiction, so I was familiar with how that genre worked. Miraculously, people loved my work. I think I wrote about ~200k in the period of a year? These were several short stories (20-40k) and a few oneshot filler fics. While I was part of this fandom I also helped organise a Big Bang which was a lot of hard work but was extremely rewarding. Along with that, I interacted mainly with other fic writers, so I spent a lot of time chatting to people about ideas and encouraging other writers, and it just created a lovely medley where no concept was impossible or any line of dialogue too difficult. We supported each other and it was truly like a little commune. I gradually stepped away from the fandom mainly because it was just a part of my life at a very specific time, and almost as soon as that time was over, my love for that story/ship faded, but I firmly believe I figured out a lot of how/what I do now purely through that experience.
Regarding ADATS
With ADATS, it stemmed entirely from wanting to “explain” three months in canon (at the end of season three). I was interested in the idea of season four setting up Will/Mike in canon, and I wanted to test the source material to see if I could draw from what already existed to create something authentic. I began with that simple idea: what happened from July to October in 1985? Then I thought about the major themes I wanted to hit -- family, friendship, coming of age, sexuality -- and I nested them around the bigger concept: how do I get Mike from being ostensibly straight to realising he is gay? That meant thinking of two steps: Mike discovering his attraction to guys; Mike discovering his attraction to Will. Those two concepts were separate “arcs” that needed addressing in different ways. Balance was key to weaving them together and making the reader feel like they knew what was coming (and that they felt smart for putting the pieces together) without just rushing through and going “now kiss!” That’s partly why ADATS needs a sequel, lol: because it’s not finished!
Writing process
The first thing I do when I start to get an idea is I write it down. Sounds obvious. But when you have a killer line of dialogue come to you in the shower and you think “I’ll remember that” -- reader, you will not remember it. You gotta get it down ASAP! I do that the whole way through, as generally I’ll be thinking of scenes I’m stuck on and then it’ll just come to me and I’ll quickly jot it down.
The next thing -- or what I do in the meantime -- is start structuring. I plan. I try to plan a lot. Sometimes it’s okay to write “and something happens here to get them here”, because you’ll figure it out later, but for the most part I’ve discovered that planning is like gold and you can’t get enough of it. I break my work up into generally 3-4 parts/sections, and I treat each section like a mini story. So each part needs a conflict and resolution, and it needs to flow into the next section. You need to have a feeling of things evolving and maturing. Once I’ve planned those little bits, I start thinking about the bigger plot arc and how I can drop in hints along the way. I’m probably not a subtle or skilled enough writer to yet pull off that sort of gasping twist you get in really excellent books, but I’m trying to get there. It’s hard, is what I’m trying to say, but that’s okay, because we’re all learning.
Then I generally do aesthetic stuff. Sounds stupid, probably. But nothing helps me get more into a mood than doing a Pinterest board or -- most of all -- making a Spotify mix. I start thinking about the vibe and the general atmosphere, and then I almost exclusively listen to that mix when I’m working. Sort of like muscle memory? Just to get the creative juices associated with that particular selection of songs.
Another thing I’ll do along with plot structure is character structure. This is a biggie. I mean, a story is nothing without characters. So I’ll just jot down a bunch of bullet points of characters and particular aspects that I want to highlight or remember. I hate continuity errors in fiction. Like, if someone says they work on Maple Street but later in the fic they’re working on Pine Street. I hate that. So I keep note of specific things that my main character might notice at repeated points in the story (colours, places, smells, names, sounds -- so they’re all consistent even as the narrative evolves). That’s another thing -- your characters’ motivations. Not everyone is going to be a huge player, but they all do serve a purpose. The most important character is obviously your main character. I personally think it’s important to let your M.C. be an arse at times. They’re going to be mean, they’re going to misinterpret things or fly off the handle... just let ‘em. Let them be wretched humans, and then bring them back and make them realise what they’ve done. Let them learn! I love consequences in fiction, lol.
At the same time, I’ll probably start writing. We’ve already written down some snippets of neat dialogue or descriptions, but now we should start the actual process. For me, I used to start at the beginning. Usually this was the most fleshed out anyway: I’ll have a clear idea of the beginning and the end, but nothing in the middle. These days, if I have a scene in mind that I can’t forget, I’ll just write it. It will possibly get scrapped or rewritten, but that’s okay, because at least you’ve got it down and now you can devote your brain power to something useful (like figuring out what the middle is supposed to be). I’ll have half a dozen of totally out of context scenes just littered in my Word document that I’ll add to as I go along. Eventually, though, you’re going to start writing properly, and that’s when you write your opening scene.
Opening scenes: super important. Every time I write a scene I think: what is the point of this? What do I want the reader to learn or takeaway? Sometimes you do have filler scenes, but they also serve a different purpose (perhaps to establish a group dynamic or to explore/describe a character’s surroundings). Mainly, though, every scene should push something forward in some way, whether it’s character development or a plot point. So, with an opening scene, I always think you have to establish: where you are; who you are; what they are doing; where they’ve come from (in a philosophical and practical sense); and where they’re going (ditto). That doesn’t have to happen in the first paragraph -- that would be silly. But if you sprinkle that information in over time it’ll gradually build up a picture of your character and that way the reader can get an idea of who they are. You basically need to give a snapshot of what your story is about. This also goes back to the character creator stuff: where they are at the start should be different to where they end up. How that happens is, of course, because of plot, and because you’ve structured everything to the nth degree, we’ve got a very clear progression of that character’s growth (/s easier said than done lol).
General advice
Write down everything: every idea, a bit of dialogue, a description, whatever. Write it down. Doesn’t have to be neat. Just has to be on paper. You can’t remember everything, so if you’re spending time trying to hold those things in your head, it’s taking up space for new ideas to come along.
Structure, plan, structure, plan. Sometimes it’s boring and I hate it. Other times, when I’ve not written in a few days and I open the Word doc and think wtf is this supposed to be, I am very grateful for Past Me for leaving such detailed notes. Seriously, it helps so much. Oneshots don’t really need planning, in my experience. You just get those out there. But multi-chaptered stories really do, even ones that “just” focus on a relationship.
Whatever you want to write, commit to it. Space goblins invade Hawkins? Do it. Eleven and Max find themselves in a cult akin to Midsommar (2019) and must escape? Yes. Just... whatever you want to do, remember that you’re writing it for you. Write what most interests you, what makes you when you reread it go AHHHHH I LOVE THIS!! Because that makes it a thousand times easier to actually get on with the writing when you enjoy what you’re doing.
Write a lot. Every day, if you can, or at least at designated times. Occasionally I have a very specific headspace/vibe I have to be in, but sometimes it just hits me and I’ll say to my partner “I need to write now” and just disappear, lol. The more you write the more you write. It’s so, so, so true. Cannot emphasise this enough. When I wrote that ~200k in twelve months? It was because I literally wrote every. day. Or near enough. Remember that some days you’ll write 200 words, and other days you’ll write 20k (this happened to me with ADATS -- part of the reason I finished it so quickly was because I had sprints of writing 10k+ at a time that only happened because I was in the rhythm of it). Write, write, write. Who cares if it’s crap! No one will see it until you are ready. In the meantime, just write!
Probably last of all (although I could go on and on) is connect with other writers. If you’re struggling to start, sometimes just talking about it can help a huge amount. I hope it goes without saying that you can message me whenever you want, anon or not, and I will talk to you. We can talk about ideas or I can beta stuff, whatever you want! Find like-minded people and talk to them about what you want to do. Another thing this helps is in advertising your work when you do publish. I see a lot of first time fic writers get super down because they publish their magnum opus on AO3 but no one comments. Honestly, it’s because no one knows you’ve published! You don’t have to be tooting your own horn every which way, but just actively talking about your work and even collaborating with other content creators with get you hyped and other people too (and the input and encouragement other fandom members give is just... out of this world. Anon messages helped me finish ADATS when I was really worried I wouldn’t [that’s the truth]. Seriously, support is everything). When you have people excited about your work, you get excited. It’s really as simple as that.
I could go on but this is already horrendously long. I hope even a bit of this helps! If you want to chat or have any more questions, just hit me up any time.
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wanted to put this on here bc it perfectly summarizes my thoughts 🙃 (cr to @/causeineedu on tiktok!)
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“finished”! blue meets yellow in the west 💙💛
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Feeding the bylers mayhaps 💏💏 (putting them in my pocket)
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ALSO I JUST OPENED COMMISSIONS FINALLY my info is in my carrd but.we r rly struggling rn and I might b.homeless soon so if any hot ppl wld like 2 comm hmu 🧘‍♂️ (I've never used tumblr links b4 apologies if it's ugly 💀💀💀)
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when blue meets yellow in the west
3am byler doodle cause my brainrot is unreal
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How Vol 2 Should have Ended
A re-write of the st4 finale, to address the narrative issues and especially the rampant homophobia, racism, and sexism. There’s a lot here so, as the kids say, buckle up and obviously spoilers below. 
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