okay but I'm actually not really surprised by the Hülkenberg Audi thing...only German driver on the grid gets scooped up by new German team, fork found in kitchen...
Redbull mechanics using the China trophy as a hula hoop and Ferrari mechanics having their vogue photoshoot. Clearly the best teams.
Mercedes is watching their flop boss have a mental breakdown over one driver and sleeping with the other. Alpine has 5 members. Williams has half a car. Sauber pitstops are being done by snails. Everyone else is irrelevant.
why logan isn't getting replaced at imola, a breakdown
(aka a breakdown so my fellow logan girlies (gn) don't break down)
I've seen this getting around, with a little traction and some people panicking a bit so let's discuss.
Joe Saward has not been a reliable source of transfer news for some time. Let's be real. A lot of this is gaining traction because Saward is "a 35 year accredited F1 journalist". And this is true, he has long experience in F1 and is accredited in the paddock. But it has been many, many years since he was accurate about driver market predictions.
You have to be eighteen to get a superlicence (thanks, Max!). Antonelli does not turn 18 until August. For him to be granted a superlicence in time for Imola, the FIA would have to issue an exemption. If Antonelli was carving up F2 it'd be one thing. But he's been far from convincing so far, and it hasn't just all been Prema. He is an F2 rookie - and he looks like it.
James Vowles has already said that Antonelli to Williams next year is not a given, because Williams has its own juniors - of which Logan is one. Now I know James has been in the bad books with plenty of us since the whole chassis debacle in Melbourne but I do believe him on this. He is quite keen to establish that Williams is not a feeder team for Mercedes and that has been the board's position for some time too (remember their angry denunciation when the rumour was that Oscar was going to replace Latifi at Silverstone?).
James Vowles still believes in Logan. Now I know some of you will be claiming this is doubtful, but I do believe it to be true. In the Japan Vowles Verdict he was warm in his praise for Logan's race pace and early stint - to the point his voice literally changed tone while answering the question. He was absolutely effusive in his praise for Logan after the Melbourne debacle. I do genuinely think that James wants to keep him.
Bringing in a driver change mid-season is incredibly disruptive - you don't do it unless you are certain you're getting a better deal out of it. Last year Alpha Tauri brought in Daniel halfway through the year. The main reason for this was because he was a fairly immediate upgrade to de Vries. But even if you're scornful of Daniel's pace, the other reason they wanted him was for his feedback and car development ability, which AT were pretty vocal that they found invaluable. Bringing in an extremely green, unprepared rookie who has barely worked with the team would be a recipe for instability, morale issues, and more broken bits, which is the absolute last thing Williams needs.
Toto Wolff can't offer James Vowles a big enough incentive to take his junior. Let's cut to the chase on this: to insinuate that James would take Antonelli just because Wolff asked is a pretty big insult to James. He's not Wolff's lapdog. They clearly respect one another and have a personal relationship outside of the sport, but that doesn't mean he'll just do whatever Toto wants - he didn't get to be team principal that way. So Toto would need to offer James an incentive. But what can he offer that James actually needs? Williams aren't broke any more, so money isn't going to cut it. And Williams already run the Mercedes engine, so Toto can't convince him with that. What Williams actually needs - the cultural and procedural overhaul that James has begun - Toto cannot help with.
tl;dr keep cool and keep the faith, logan fans. there's still plenty of time left in our ride.
Redbull mechanics using the China trophy as a hula hoop and Ferrari mechanics having their vogue photoshoot. Clearly the best teams.
Mercedes is watching their flop boss have a mental breakdown over one driver and sleeping with the other. Alpine has 5 members. Williams has half a car. Sauber pitstops are being done by snails. Everyone else is irrelevant.
Thing is, Stroll’s incident was a mistake due to lack of awareness etc. It was stupid but it was a mistake
isn't that even more dangerous tho? i mean if you're driving a car that fast you need to have awareness, if you don't you could hurt yourself and/or other people badly? just my opinion
People will make mistakes no matter what and it’s important to punish those mistakes, but I think it’s equally important to punish those who knowingly do something dangerous.
People are going to make mistakes, that’s always going to happen but I also think it’s so important to properly discourage drivers from choosing to do dangerous things like overtaking under safety car, knowingly forcing a driver off track, etc
There’s people arguing on whether Ricciardo getting the same penalty for overtaking under the safety car that Stroll got for the collision is fair or not
Thing is, Stroll’s incident was a mistake due to lack of awareness etc. It was stupid but it was a mistake
Ricciardo overtaking under the safety car was a choice that he made, he chose to do something that is against the regulations and it’s against the regulations as it is dangerous.
Ricciardo could have easily asked his team to check with Race Control if he could take back the position, but he didn’t
Can you explain why Ricciardo got penalty for overtaking based on article 55.8 but the stewards say Hulkenberg was allowed to overtake him in the first place based on that same atlrticle?
Article 55.8 of the Sporting Regulations lays out the specific situations/exceptions where it is okay to overtake under safety car
These are:
a) If a driver is signalled to do so from the safety car.
b) Under Articles 49.6, 55.13, 58.6, and 58.11.
c) When entering the pits a driver may pass another car remaining on the track, including the safety car, after he has reached the first safety car line.
d) When leaving the pits a driver may overtake, or be overtaken by, another car on the track before he reaches the second safety car line.
e) When the safety car is returning to the pits it may be overtaken by cars on the track once it has reached the first safety car line.
f) Whilst in the pit entry road, pit lane or pit exit road a driver may overtake another car which is also in one of these three areas.
g) Any car stopping in its designated garage area whilst the safety car is using the pit lane (see Article 55.11 below) may be overtaken.
h) If any car slows with an obvious problem.
With Hulkenberg you can state that it was acceptable for him to overtake under safety car there as the car in front of him had been crashed into and likely had damage, hence it would fall under 55.8h).
Ricciardo wasn’t entitled to take that place back and there’s nothing in the regulations that would allow him to do so