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phil has spoken up, and is in support of shelby.

reminder to support shelby. and do not push cc’s to make a response, it’ll come out in due time.

and to those who support wilbur, if his closest friends are supporting the victim, i think it is time you rethink and look into what others have said.

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i don't use this blog much anymore as i'm just not as into minecraft creators anymore and only check up on their content occasionally but i want to be clear fuck wilbur soot and support shelby shubble also we should give his old friends time to process through things before we should expect them to respond, everyone has different paces to process and deal with things

#idk if this like needs any tw or anything so just lmk #i'm really not sure what i should do with my old fics containing him #like i was writing about his character obviously but idk

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Many of the younger ccs speaking up about Wilbur's manipulation is INCREDIBLY concerning, and I don't think they'll be the last. I think it's also a big indication that it happened to Tommy too, and that he'll take a while to respond. People demanding an immediate response need to remember that he was likely a victim of it too, he just may not have been aware of it.

I mean, Wilbur's ADMITTED he relied on Tommy for his mental health when he was still a minor. That is NOT something adults should ever do and it has always been odd to me. It also makes it very hard for the minor involved to leave the friendship, since they see themselves as responsible for the older person. I don't think I need to really go into how unhealthy that sort of thing is, it isn't an uncommon occurrence and lot of people will have a better explanation than me. But it is something to keep in mind, that Tommy may feel responsible or have been groomed to excuse the behavior.

The library stream is another example of the manipulation, and I'm surprised no one is talking about it. Tommy literally talked about how uncomfortable he was at Wilbur's house. It was cold, he had no blanket, he didn't want to keep staying there, he would rather be out in public at night in a strange place. Then Wilbur just shows up out of nowhere and tells Tommy he's misremembering/being dramatic and pretty much shuts him up, gets him to stop talking shit about him. Everyone's exasperation with Tommy in the situation (being a minor alone and uncomfortable and uncertain of what to do, far from home with nowhere to go), helped Wilbur pull Tommy back in and convince him to go back to his house, especially since it was passed off as Wilbur being caring.

It was obvious to me during the stream that Tommy was telling the truth and Wilbur was the one lying, but I figured he was just being defensive because he didn't want all that online. Now we know that he had a LOT more to hide about his living situation that he didn't want being spilled, and manipulators/abusers don't tend to like it when someone goes and starts talking about the truth. They want to downplay it as much as possible, and Wilbur showing up in person to shut Tommy up and make fun of him for not wanting to stay with him, make it more lighthearted, is incredibly telling and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone point that out.

There are so many other things I found odd throughout the years that finally have a proper explanation to them, but that's just a few examples. I'm not going to get too much further into it. Wilbur isn't who we should be focusing on, I just needed to get that out to move on from it.

I do think pointing out that Tommy has openly been manipulated is important because it may cause him to take a while to respond openly to all this while he processes. If Wilbur treated so many of his ex-friends badly it's safe to assume he did it to all of them, and we need to give everyone involved time to stop and think about the situation. A lot of people want Tommy to respond immediately, but he will need time to do that and it's only fair we give him the space to do that properly.

I also think it is so, so incredible that Shelby has given so many people the space and bravery to come forward. I believe there will be more people speaking up soon, they just need time. Support her and other victims!

#god yeah people are already being weird on twitter about tommy like give him a minute they were obviously close #i don't understand people's obsession with needing people to respond right away #we should give tommy all the time he needs to process and sort things out

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So, I've seen a lot of people describing the Wilbur situation as like a car wreck or a fire or some other disaster that's destroying their community and I want to offer an alternative perspective.

To be clear: it hurts. It hurts like a bitch. It fucking sucks and it's awful and we all wish we weren't going through it and if you need to log off and throw a little baby tantrum about it, feel free. I've already done that a couple times.

But I think the pain is more like resetting a badly healed bone or cleaning an infected wound. It hurts, but the process is ultimately healing.

What we're going to be left with at the end of this process is a stronger community with one less abuser in it, maybe even more if more people feel empowered to come forward. Shelby wasn't the only person Wilbur hurt. Even if she had been, that would have been enough to justify getting rid of him, but she wasn't. There are so many people now who will be more comfortable and happier and safer in the community, which will be stronger and more open and more able to trust.

Is it going to hurt to get there? Yes. Does it hurt a lot right now? Yes. Would it have been a thousand times worse to let it fester for fear of that pain? Yes.

Cry about it all you need, but it's not a disaster. It's a surgery.

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A small compilation of Content creators' responses to Wilburs "apology"

In case anyone else needs to see how they don't support him.

edit: heres a minor update

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HERES A CLIP OF TUBBO TALKING ABOUT IT !

last edit: (i hope niki is okay<3)

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Lady is lifting her veil for a minute.

smaller parts is under the cut :)

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i dont watch philza's hardcore world but whenever i see a clip of it hes always moving sand. hes always in a big pit somewhere getting rid of sand and putting sand and taking away sand and putting sand and talking it away. in a big pit. is he an ant

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Reveling in the fact that i just met a lovejoy fan irl who had no idea the lead was a long time minecraft streamer and youtuber

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Companionship.

a reverse picture below :)

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there going for a walk! :D

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#june or july 2020 i think #idk when it was but like watched dream and george when they first started streaming #they first introduced me to twitch lmao though idk when that was

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I kinda wish the dsmp's shit ending had been a character waking up instead of the amnesia so we could collectively pretend that's why it's called the dream smp

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🍟✨The Syndicate go to McDonalds✨🍔

(also niki's design based off of @pineapplefishh 's)

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tubbo just called marvel the mr beast of cinema hes the smartest man alive

#litteraly so true tubbo

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the field

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philza is a father to all