âȘ I've got a second chance to fly
I've got a second chance to fall
What can make the tide turn?
What can make the fire burn?
A second chance is all âȘ
HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL: THE MUSICAL: THE SERIES | 4x05 â Admissions
I saw people discussing when they think Ricky knew about his romantic feelings for Gina, and honestly I feel like him (and Gina) knew from the pretty much the beginning.
In 105 Ricky is upset Nini rejected his kiss and âfriendzonedâ him so he decides to stop pursuing her and goes to homecoming with Big Red. He makes a pact with his dad that they would put themselves out there and Red says âSo put yourself out there. Like, tonightâ. and the next shot is Gina and EJ asking to sit.
The show establishes that Ricky is in the mindset of looking for a romantic connection and then places Gina in front of him.
He lashes out at her, and when he goes to apologise he basically tells her that he felt a connection with her, and he kind felt disappointed because he thought she felt it too (he was jealous đ) and he has a high opinion of her. âI thought you were classier than that,â
After the convo and kiss on the check in the car, I think that he knows thereâs potential there, but might be hesitant because she had just told him she that doesnât date.
When Big Red asks âwhat happened with Gina, Ricky says âIâm not sure yet,â again, confirming that Ricky is deciding on if itâs a crush or not.
And then Gina asks to hear him play her the song, and he KNOWS that he likes her.
like look at his face, he is cheesing. This whole scene is SOOOOOO excellent. The way Gina asks him to play so they could stay for 5 minutes more because the night before the had confessed how much they enjoyed having a place to go after school, (him being flattered because nobody takes him seriously) ALSO WTWMAY is such a loaded song choice
After they both shower each other in compliments (because they are so đ„°đ„°đ„°) Ricky says to her:
âI kinda canât forget about anything that happened at homecoming,â
Which I feel is Ricky telling Gina that he has a crush on her.
Look at the way he says âanything,â with the raise of the eyebrow, the small step towards her, as he tells her heâs been thinking about her, and the kiss with a hopeful smile.
And Gina understands it. You can see her process the information.
Iâve seen people joke that S1 Rina were dating without labels- and I literally think itâs true. Ricky tells Gina he felt a connection with her, she asks for a ride home and kisses him on the cheek. He tells her he canât stop thinking about her, she walks him to a party and makes him a hat. They were courting each other, and thatâs why they were both devastated when she got the call from her mom and she cut him off.
Ginaâs confession on opening night is her verbally confirming to Ricky that she felt the connection too, and she was really sorry (heartbroken) that she had to give up on it.
Just like in the s3 finale, where she understood his confession in Kristofâs Lullaby, she verbally confirms that she wants to be with him.
Ricky doesnât blink when Big Red thinks he wrote a song about Gina, because he knew he was romantically pursuing her. When Ricky says he let Gina slip through his fingers, I think means heâs sad he didnât fight when they both knew they liked each other, and itâs why he feels EJ stole her. In s2 Gina says âNiniâs back and heâs so happy now,â she was a sad because he moved on, not because her crush was unrequited! And he only moved on because she had told him to, he doesnât see her as an option after she moves (he thinks the follow my dreams resolution was about Gina) and he ïżŒbury his feelings for her. He put himself out there and got disappointed again, and Nini was the safer option for a moment (iâm just saying Ricky wasnât particularly heartbroken over his first break up with Nini)
The TL;DR is
Ricky is very open with Gina about his feelings for her in s1, he has always known that they were romantic and he basically tells her he has a crush on her after singing WTWMAY.
IM SORRY BUTâŠ. i was probably the most skeptical person about the chocolates theory. thought it was just our delusions. but first of all there was NO reason to bring it up now⊠like with the âno dramaâ line was enough for us and ricky to get the point. second of all RICKYâS REACTION??? HIS WHOLE BODY TENSED WHEN SHE SAID THAT??
back in my full time delusional era but why am i thinking the chocolate theory can be trueâŠ
âI donât think Gina and Ricky were a big plan. I think âHomecomingâ changed everything and the performance of Josh and Sofia in that car changed the trajectory of the show forever.â - Tim Federle
He said we all saw this coming. But I didnât. Not that night in your car after homecoming. Or when I made you that hat at Thanksgiving and the floppy little ears looked so dumb, but it was honestly the cutest thing Iâd ever seen. God, Ricky Bowen, you have been a surprise since the day we met. You werenât the plan. You were never the plan. Plans change. And if you want me to shut up, Iâll shut up, but I donât have âmaybeâ feelings about you. You arenât a maybe. Youâre a yes. And I like to know where people stand with me and so now you know where you stand with me.
HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL: THE MUSICAL: THE SERIES | 3x08 â Let It Go
âGina giving the speech was unrealistic.â âRicky still doesnât love Gina as much as she loves him.â
Walk with me.
Gina SAYING how she feels explicitly after all theyâve been through (Gina moving then coming back, Rini getting back together, her âconfessionâ in season 1, Ricky being blinded by his fear of change to see how heâs UNINTENTIONALLY hurting Gina, Rina drifting apart after 2x05, Portwell getting together and Rinaâs reconciliation in S3) proves that she gets him. Ricky has always needed people to use words to show how they feel about him because HE never has the words. His love language is words of affirmation and a bit of quality time, he prefers to receive love in those ways and he gives his in quality time and acts of service.
He had to HEAR that after all they went through, Gina still loved him and she knew that. Because they get each other. Remember sheâs the one who vocalized how he felt about his mother and Todd in season one episode seven: âjust when you get used to things changing, they change again. Am I close?â ââŠmaybeâ
Gina not getting the big speech doesnât mean Rickyâs feelings arenât as strong, it means he understands her because Gina might have always heard pretty words (from her mother, her brother, EJ this summer) but no one has STOOD BY HER. No one has shown up and stayed for her until Ricky. EJ showed up when things were easy (before he graduated and had to face real life) but Ricky stayed throughout a pretty life changing time for both of them (her first summer camp, her first real friendships, her first basketball triumph, her first âbigâ lead, his turning eighteen) he walked beside her through this and she knows it.
She knows Ricky loves her because while he barely showed up last season when they were both in turbulent times in their lives and had drifted apart, heâs now here, unmoving. She had to SEE him after all they went through and he knew she deserved someone by her side because remember in season one episode five: âI donât do dates. Try moving five schools in seven years.â âAnd howâs that working out for you?â
Sheâs never had stability and he knows it. Ginaâs love language is quality time and acts of service. And she gives her love with acts of service and words of affirmation. Ricky gave his all for this musical because it meant a lot to Gina, he helped her plan the surprise for Elton and he was by her side through the woman in the woods and colour war and defended her from Channing and even after Portwellâs break up, he was there and they were only apart after SHE left him in the coat check. Hell, HE went to find HER after she missed HIS birthday surprise.
She recognizes what he was saying all summer without using words and gave her love in the form of words of affirmation.
A trait they share is they NEED physical touch. Ricky and Gina relish in feeling the other person. They (playfully) hold hands, Ricky places her hand over his heart, they hug, they lean into one another when they stand next to each other as if to remind themselves and the other person that they are there.
The kiss was perfectly placed because all that needed to be said or shown over the summer had been. Gina placed all her cards on the table at the theater and Ricky had shown his all summer. They kissed to show the other that what they always had was always real.
Gina deserves the big romantic moments and she will absolutely get them from Ricky but not only in words, but in gestures. In time together. In showing up and staying.
TL: DR: Rina works because they understand who the other is NOW. Gina SAYING how she feels is on parr with Ricky SHOWING how he feels.
i mean, i donât want to say we told you so butâŠ
in the s1 finale rinas wouldnât stop saying how rini break up was inevitable because ricky was clinging to the past and nini was the figure of what represented a safe space for him in that place. it protected him from change. eventually, a year and a half later they end up having a whole storyline over this and explicitly say it in their break up.
portwell starts dating after the s2 finale airs. rinas say the relationship is doomed because theyâre in two different stages of their lives which are not comparable with one another. ej canât give gina what she needs because his place in life doesnât align with ginaâs, so their priorities end up being completely different. s3 starts and builds up a whole storyline of ej not being able to show up because of his responsibilities. because heâs not a kid anymore. they break and the show explicitly states that theyâre in different places as people and it just doesnât align.
so. is it really the writing bad or inconsistent if such a big group of people noticed with so much anticipation? havenât you guys considered maybe you just read what the show has been telling you wrong?
I think the most important part we have to take into consideration with Gina and EJâs relationship is that they both really wanted it to work. Both of them tried and, to some extent, fought to keep the relationship afloat.
We have Gina who pretty much stuffs her feelings for Ricky down, down, down. (and we know her feelings are still there for many reasons, first of all she never got closure, also the âwho said anybody wouldâ line in 3x01, âand for the first time in forever i wonât be aloneâ look she gave ricky in 3x02, and so on!) She does this to completely focus on her âSummer of Firstsâ with EJ.
Then we have EJ who had this pile of responsibility packed on top of him at the last minute and has completely abandoned Gina (yes itâs not his fault! but it still happened) despite promising her the best summer of fun. Even though a lot of lies and secrets and miscommunication came to the surface due to his new position as director, they still managed to make up in during the beginning of 3x06 âColor Warsâ, and focus on the rest of the summer.
Even though her and EJ were back to how they were, EJ still wasnât around. Ricky, himself, asks where EJ is and asks EJ where heâs going. Like even Ricky notices EJ keeps leaving Gina. Again, I know itâs because of his responsibility, and because he was with Miss Jenn the whole episode (I wonât even get into him lying to Gina again about Miss Jenn, but maybe another day) but it still happened. I think a funny thing to also point out is Gina stating how much she wanted Blue team to win for her and EJ, and Blue team.. lost.
This is when I feel like Gina really thinks of one last big gesture to give EJ to really salvage their relationship. Ricky (my son who loves her so much and just wants her to be happy) helps her set up this adorable âKiss the Girlâ inspired decoration with the canoe. They bring EJ to surprise him and thatâs where Gina asks him to prom. EJ immediately shuts her down and claims itâs because they donât allow dates to the prom, to not hurt anybodyâs feelings. I could get into how much his delivery towards rejecting Ginaâs Promposal bothers me, but again.. thatâs for another day. At the end of the day, he just said no! Then he told her he had to get back to work so they should just sit there for a little bit and wait for the fireworks. I believe that Gina interpreted that as EJ telling her to just sit there and wait for either of them to feel something for the other again and she asks âis that a metaphor?â but EJ reiterates that no there are real fireworks and theyâll be âany minuteâ now. And the fireworks never came.
Going back to what I said in the beginning, both EJ and Gina wanted the relationship to work. EJ even tells her heâs going to fight for her to stay in Salt Lake. But the fireworks never came. You can put as much effort as you want into a relationship, you can want a relationship to work out reallllyyyyy bad, but sometimes youâre simply just not meant to be? Sometimes a pair just isnât compatible. Sometimes a couple loses their spark and their passion after that initial honeymoon phase. and thatâs okay. There doesnât need to really be a (strong) outside force, or a super clear explanation as to why the fireworks didnât come. They just werenât meant to be.
Itâs also important to point out that Ashlyn asked Miss Jenn about Mike Bowen earlier in the episode and how she knew she wanted to get on the boat with rickyâs dad and Miss Jenn answered fireworks! The scene right after Gina and EJâs was Ashlynâs realization of her sexuality. The fireworks came for both Miss Jenn and Ashlyn, but not for portweII and the look they both make at the end, really shows they know it too.
While I have no horse in the portwell v rina race, I will say, rina fans are much funnier than portwells. Like portwells are no fun in the way that it is no fun to watch a baby fall down a flight of stairs. They're whinging and you're worried for them and you wanna help. But rinas are like a grown man enthusiastically falling down the stairs for the third time. They're joking about how they're gonna throw themselves down next time and laughing maniacally as they fall. This is the slow burn they've wanted all along. They are psychotic. It's a hot mess but I enjoy it.
when i have time i will probably write a whole long post about this because i have so much thoughts all around my head right now but i want to point it out now so you have it in mind. specially when there has been all this talk about rickyâs character regression, ricky not being ready for a relationship, saying if rina were to date it wouldnât be healthy.
rickyâs love for gina represents the complete total opposite of his love for nini. rickyâs love for gina is selfless while rickyâs love for nini (the main reason why their relationship fell apart) was selfish. it was about clinging onto nini too much and not letting her out to the world. it was, and i quote nini, trapping her in a pedestal. with nini, ricky prioritized their relationship interestâs over herâs. he deleted a comment (not maliciously) because he thought it could send her off (even if it mean a dream come true to her) and unconsciously he was putting his and the relationshipâs interests over what nini wanted. meanwhile rickyâs love for gina makes her help her plan a surprise for her boyfriend and accept her happiness might not be with him, but it doesnât matter because the fact sheâs happy is enough for him. rickyâs love for gina makes him show up every single time with no ulterior motive other than to be there for there. do you know how big this is for his character development when he was considered unreliable by the beginning of s2? now heâs literally the person gina relies on for everything. heâs the guy who shows up.
with gina, ricky learned how to love selflessly. THATâS character development if iâve ever seen one. in the words of rinaâs parents: âthe act of being in love with you is enough for meâ đ«¶đ»
omg hi i have a lot of asks iâm sorry i have been busy but iâve seen a recurring thing that is causing panic among us rinas that i donât think everyone interpreted well.
i am the rina with the most fear of the season not ending good us for us. however i saw a lot of people scared because of tamia (the rina reviewer) saying she doesnât want rina to end up the season together. i think everyone interpreted it as a bad thing but me, as a full rina too, also donât want them to end s3 officially together. iâm pretty sure thatâs what she was referring. because if portwell breaks up, rina would start dating too fast and since theyâre the slowburn of the show them ending s3 together would make it rushed and i donât think no one wants that. i for the life of god also donât want rina to end up together in s3 but not necessarily a bad thing for them at all, itâs more just a preference for their future plot and what makes sense with their storytelling.
i think thereâs a lot of things to be scared because i am, more than anyone, but i donât think this is one of them! hope this eased someoneâs fears đ