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With Fart the Wrong Saga officially dead let us all take a moment to remember all of the dumbass shit it did

(and yes they did whitewash Flora twice)

#fate the winx saga #winx club #winx

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Cartoon Girls + Sleepover

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What did you watch when you were younger?💜

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Sophia Lillis-Bloom

Emily Skinner-Stella

Jenna Ortega-Flora

Marsai Martin-Aisha

Peyton Elizabeth Lee-Musa

Rowan Blanchard & Cailee Spaeny

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Winx Club live-action as a Netflix Original Series how it should be 

“Close your eyes, and open your heart. Believe in yourself, that’s how it starts.”

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Arc V and Vrains trio😍🥰

ARC V: Yuya Sakaki l, Yuto, and Yugo

Vrains: Yusaku Fujiki, Takeru Homura, and Ryoken Kogami

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When your actress wears a better casual outfit similar to her animated counterpart than her live action one you know there’s a problem 😂😂

#fate the winx saga #fate saga #abigail cowen

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The Creative Directors Behind Fate: The Winx Saga Must Not Be KPop Fans

Sub: Also, they have a pretty wrong idea of the role fashion should play in a show.

There are a few words that will stand out across most reviews of Netflix's Fate: The Winx Saga - drab, boring, flop, flat, unimaginative. Critics and audiences consensus is that the adaptation not only is a mediocre at best story, and an atrocious (and ultimately confusing) choice of adaptation the color pop and fairy magic cartoon it’s based on, 2004 Winx Club. Fate has plenty of it's own issues - white washing and erasing characters, cringey dialogue, outdated melodrama, etc; but beyond that, Fate misses everything that was magical and loveable about the original series. This can be seen in all levels of the adaptation, from the polemic writing choices, such as never actually developing any sense of friendship between this cartoon about…..a group…….of friends, but it especially and immediately felt in the art direction of the series.

Winx Club is set on a fantastical world, Magix, where each of our main characters hail from a different planet, à la Sailor Moon. Alfea, the fairy school they attend is the most common background, a pastel colored, high tech meets fantasy art nouveau inspired castle. Alfea sets the tone for the whole visual of the cartoon: bright, colorful, leaning into the tech gear positivism of the Y2K style, uniting it with magic, DnD worthy monsters and, of course, fairy wings. Often featured are also the Red Fountain school, where the Specialists train, and especially Cloud Tower, the goth inspired witch school Alfea has a OxBridge rivalry with (How cool would that be in a live action? I guess we’ll never know…). On Fate, Alfea is the only school we ever see, and it’s another beige boarding school in not-britain, somehow set in a magical world where everyone has the exact same technology and even social media that we have on Earth in 2021.

This lack of visual creativity is pervasive throughout the whole show, and it’s most heartbreaking iteration is in the characters' wardrobe. The styling has the barest bones of a color scheme, - such as Bloom has to only dress in red since fire, duh,- the clothes are ill fitting, bland, dark and very dated. These are supposed to be teenagers who like fashion, and yet they look like varying types of soccer moms in 2010.

The show seems to operate on an old and tired vision that women and girls can’t have depth and have adventures and also care about fashion, a vision that the original show played a big, big role in challenging in the early 2000s. Fashion and costume design sets as much of the tone of a visual medium as the script does; through clothes we can gauge characters’ backgrounds, passions, and personality. Winx Club has some of the best examples of this in the cartoon sphere - Bloom’s comfortable and bright style, Stella’s glitzy and bold, Musa’s edgy and cool, Aisha’s sporty and fun, Techna’s neon and tech gear inspired, Flora’s earthy and romantic, they all work as extensions of each character and serve a narrative purpose. And that’s not even mentioning how insulting it feels that in their quest to make Winx “edgier, darker” and fit for an older audience, the creators of Fate somehow decided that was exclusive to caring about style and fashion. Most “girly” shows, including the Winx Club are just as much adventure action shows geared towards boys, and it’s emphasis in fashion, friendship and color does not detract from that.

If it’s darker they wanted, they easily could’ve done that; the original run of the cartoon deals with war, violence, abusive relationships and even genocide; leaning into those plotlines would not require Fate to erase integral part of what made Winx so beloved, and in doing so it shows that the Netflix team completely missed the point of fashion in the original show, and really the point of fashion and styling in the world builing of any show.

That, however, is not a mistake K-Pop makes very often; this might seem like a bit of wild swerve in topic, but stay with me.

Unlike it's western counterpart, the korean pop scene never lost the emphasis on music videos and how the visual medium can complete and potentialize music and performance; the K-Pop culture is very album and concept oriented in a way that has been all but lost in many other pop circuits, and the music video, styling and set design of a ‘comeback era’ is a key point of excitement of a promotion cycle.

As such music videos that follow storylines, connected universes, boundary pushing concepts and visual effects are the norm, rather than the exception, and I could make a list of works that are beautiful examples of what a live action Winx adaptation could look like. In fact, I think I will make that list; here are just a couple of examples:

3. Red Velvet Psycho

If it was a darker and more somber look that Fate wanted, there was a way to make it actually appealing. While it still feels a liiitle too grown up and elegant for Winx, (maybe this author is biased, as a full proponent for the y2k fun) but Psycho makes a very compelling argument for a witchy, mysterious, fairy tale-esque show that could look scrumptious and definitely not boring, or even a gorgeous example of what the witches in Cloud Tower could look like. Black, white, dark green, pastel blue and pops of jewel tones make Psycho's color palette. The styling mostly stays on soft pastels, deep blues and purples, and black and white, but is heavy on the textures. We see a of stonework, intricate embroidery, tassels, lace on lace on lace, feathers, bows, opera gloves and it's all offset by bold, dark makeup, and leather accents. Needle & Thread, Marchesa Notte and Self Portrait lend their hyper feminine and intricately detailed tulle gowns, juxtaposed with the eeriness of the story; their deep jewel fairy tale looks are built with pieces from Zara to Nina Ricci to Dolce & Gabbana to Alexander McQueen.

RV’s more edgy styling for 2018's Bad Boy would also not feel out of place on the Trix.

2. IZ*ONE Fiesta

IZ*ONE kicked off 2020 with sweet and fun Fiesta. The MV features rooms with mismatched décor that go from retro to space opera, rocky faux landscapes that feel other worldly and visual effects that would look perfect on the back of a transformation sequence. Mirroring the set design, the girls wear various outfits by sustainable up and coming brand Chopova Lowena. Their signature skirts made discarded and repurposed fabrics give a cool and interesting twist on a schoolgirl look to IZ*ONE that would look very sweet for a band of school fairies that occasionally go off save the world. Also, that bedazzled headphone would look great on Musa's fairy outfit or what?

1. Aespa - Black Mamba and Next Level

Aespa is what fans call a monster rookie. With only three music videos under their belt, Aespa still has some of the most visually interesting work right now. Their concept is very tied in with high tech, featuring even AI avatars of each member, packaged in a glitzy, fantastical and futuristic aesthetic, candy pop meets cyberpunk. I think I’ve exhausted ways to say that is exactly what a perfect Winx adaptation should feature.

Their debut smash hit, 2020’s Black Mamba is truly a perfect moodboard for live action Winx. Wearing sequined and colorful mix and match of Dollskill, Gucci, Didu and Balenciaga to a backdrop that features some alien fairy forest realness, a pyschodelic fever dream or donning a lime green and black techwear inside a a metro fighting a "black mamba", Aespa look through and through the part of fashion loving fairies who save the world together, while looking fierce, stylish and, most importantly, interesting.

In their third MV, 2021's Next Level, the cyber in their look is taken up a notch (get it. Next Level), in a futuristic urbanscape intersped with a planet made of crystals and the ocasional alien fauna showing up again. We get treated to Monse, The 2ND Skin Co, Johanna Ortiz and The Attico styled to fairy princess levels, sporty sky racers and a white and sequined group styling that is top ten fairy busy saving the world uniform material, or maybe even a specialist getup.

This particular look from Ningning is so Techna that it almost feels as if it's mocking Netflix.

And doesn’t this moment Karina is trapped in the black mamba in Alexander McQueen feel like a perfect Dark Bloom moment?

These are only a few examples of interesting and creative designs that could've been in line with a live action Winx Club should have given us. There so many more I could note, Sex Education and even polemic dark Euphoria being examples of teen shows that know how to have fun with style without losing the depth of their stories. In the end, it's hard to justify why Fate creators even wanted to make an adaptation that didn't even try to capture the heart of its source material, and to watch one more "Restyling Fate: The Winx Saga" video on Youtube.

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IKR, yes that racist and sexist asshole was like let criticize the design of the animated series because no body look like that “ proves that he had zero experience in animation in general” so let’s have WHITE plus size character over Latina and make fun of her 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻logic. Terra is a weird character, she isn’t ok with Musa ignoring when they are not friends but Bloom is allowed to, she pretends to be badass when Riven mocked her but when Stella was rude to her she is ok with it and even missed her when she was gone!! Just wow. Now to sexist part how about pretending to be woke feminist by letting Bloom yelling about mansplaining to the person that tried to help!! When this guy was the person that she and Stella hanging out with the most compared to the time they did together or with the ppl that supposed to be their friends and of course her best friend in the original is now her enemy over that guy “ because yeah girls can’t have healthy friendship unless there’s a boy” the fact that Sky and Riven are besties while the girls are literally hating on one other is ridiculous.

Fate stans really don’t understand why winx fans hate the live action reboot. 

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I gotta say something about this trend because it rubs me wrong

🌼Don't use my post to bully crew members and actors please!🌼

I know there's a post floating around here that talks about the erasure of monoracial/unambiguously black female characters, explicitly black/deep-toned women are now being portrayed by mixed/light-skinned actresses; or, if they're animated, depicted with lighter skin. I'm starting to notice that trend in other media not just in black women (although that issue is unfortunately common in that range).

Take Spirit for example. The first movie was a commentary on the effects of Manifest Destiny partly through the eyes of a Lakota man named Little Creek.

But in the spinoff sequels the new protagonist is a biracial (Mexican and White) light skinned girl named Lucky.

Now the plot is a typical "Girl and her Horse movie" where she has to save her wealthy father's railroad line. Which is an huge slap in the face of the messages set by the first movie because railroad lines were symbolic of the destructive nature of colonialism. There's a scene in the original where Spirit and Little Creek thwart the construction of the railroad as a defiant act against genocide. Lucky even ends up taming the son of Spirit & Little Creek's personal horse Rain - again a huge slap in the face - whereas Little Creek chose to let Rain go, reinforcing the theme of freedom. Having some girl who directly benefitted from colonialism&privilege do the exact opposite of that shows an utter misunderstanding of the first film.

Recently Fate the Winx Saga casted a light skinned actress to portray Flora.

Again, no hate toward her, and the franchise is no stranger to whitewashing - but this is another example of media whitewashing a brown-skinned character and removing unambiguous traits to be more acceptable.

Before that Fate flat out replaced her with a white woman, only to backtrack by saying that Terra is actually her cousin.

Disney is also guilty of this, casting casting lightskinned actresses to play Kamala and Jasmine:

This isn't much of a recent trend either. Back in 2007-8 the Bratz Movie casted Ian Nelson (who is white) to play Dylan (who is black and had already been whitewashed in the cartoon and other media).

Great representation does not mean erasing brown/deep toned and unambiguous features to make characters more marketable. There is no shame in unambiguous features. Trying to erase such is doing the bare minimum and shows the unjustified colorism that still runs rampant in Hollywood.

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Also can I add how we were promised that this live action is meant for the older audience WHO GREW UP WATCHING WINX AND STILL WATCHING IT TODAY, meaning this was meant for us after how childish S8 was!! So Yes we are allowed to criticize Fate as much as we want because it was the total opposite of what we loved about the early seasons or the franchise in general

Fate stans really don’t understand why winx fans hate the live action reboot. 

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#thank you #finally someone said it #fate saga #fate the winx saga

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I gotta say something about this trend because it rubs me wrong

🌼Don't use my post to bully crew members and actors please!🌼

I know there's a post floating around here that talks about the erasure of monoracial/unambiguously black female characters, explicitly black/deep-toned women are now being portrayed by mixed/light-skinned actresses; or, if they're animated, depicted with lighter skin. I'm starting to notice that trend in other media not just in black women (although that issue is unfortunately common in that range).

Take Spirit for example. The first movie was a commentary on the effects of Manifest Destiny partly through the eyes of a Lakota man named Little Creek.

But in the spinoff sequels the new protagonist is a biracial (Mexican and White) light skinned girl named Lucky.

Now the plot is a typical "Girl and her Horse movie" where she has to save her wealthy father's railroad line. Which is an huge slap in the face of the messages set by the first movie because railroad lines were symbolic of the destructive nature of colonialism. There's a scene in the original where Spirit and Little Creek thwart the construction of the railroad as a defiant act against genocide. Lucky even ends up taming the son of Spirit & Little Creek's personal horse Rain - again a huge slap in the face - whereas Little Creek chose to let Rain go, reinforcing the theme of freedom. Having some girl who directly benefitted from colonialism&privilege do the exact opposite of that shows an utter misunderstanding of the first film.

Recently Fate the Winx Saga casted a light skinned actress to portray Flora.

Again, no hate toward her, and the franchise is no stranger to whitewashing - but this is another example of media whitewashing a brown-skinned character and removing unambiguous traits to be more acceptable.

Before that Fate flat out replaced her with a white woman, only to backtrack by saying that Terra is actually her cousin.

Disney is also guilty of this, casting casting lightskinned actresses to play Kamala and Jasmine:

This isn't much of a recent trend either. Back in 2007-8 the Bratz Movie casted Ian Nelson (who is white) to play Dylan (who is black and had already been whitewashed in the cartoon and other media).

Great representation does not mean erasing brown/deep toned and unambiguous features to make characters more marketable. There is no shame in unambiguous features. Trying to erase such is doing the bare minimum and shows the unjustified colorism that still runs rampant in Hollywood.

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Fate’s new marketing strategy I mean Flora casting

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lmfaoooo i guess they chose the first latino actress they could find for flora so us whiny bitches would keep quiet about whitewashing her?😩 she looks nothing like flora

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So they cast Mexican AMERICAN actress for Flora but they couldn’t cast Asian AMERICAN for Musa so the whole “ oh all the cast should be English except Bloom “ is just absolute crap they can have Asian American actress and speak with English accent someone like Adeline Rudolph or Lana Condor.

But they didn’t why!! Well because originally Terra’s actress was supposed to be Flora and after the backlashes they changed it and now consider finding a good casting for her to shut the fans up. Good for you having Flora but Musa is still white

#fate the winx saga #fate saga #fate : the winx saga #fate

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“PreCure can actually make better dark content than World Of Winx and Winx Fate. Because Rainbow doesn’t realize that maturity should be in meaning, not in edgy content being put everywhere.”