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I will most likely not be tagging spoilers, but I do tag all my posts with the name of whatever game I’m talking about!

subsequently I will be avoiding tumblr until I finish the game bc I also do not want to be spoiled lol

Please reblog this saying whether or not you will tag spoilers for ND34, what tag(s) you will use, and how long you plan to do so for :)

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like I understand that we want to see forward momentum in the graphics compared to SEA but let’s not pretend that we weren’t fine with all the games before it that have graphics that are just as questionable lol

I see a lot of people saying the environments look good but the characters don’t, has that not been the case for like 40% (conservatively lol) of all the games?

I simply Do Not Care about the graphics. Good, bad, or mediocre, I'm indifferent. If the puzzles and the story are good, and if the controls handle better than MID, then I am so fucking down

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I actually just screamed out loud watching the new trailer goodbye pessimist city I am taking the next train to optimistville

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yessss so much I agree with! Abbie and Rose especially and I never realized that Rose doesn’t have her own room?? Plus I feel like it’s totally in her character to be like so exhausted to the point where she’s like “yes babe all our decor can be spiritual zodiac stuff as long as you’re happy and I don’t have to do anything taxing to decorate” lol

and also +1000 to jessalyn!!! I think that the storyline of “we don’t want to get married and would never want to be married but we’re doing it for our super traditional families” makes a lot more sense if her and Colton are both gay! I always loved the theory that Lexie is actually a guy and the reason why jessalyn is so unthreatened is bc neither of them have any interest in each other lol

and ofc as shortythurmondsbaldhead I’m sure you know Shorty better than anyone so completely agree there 😂

I have a personal theory that Ranger Akers is part of the LGBTQ+ community but 2002 HeR was afraid of backlash from their super conservative fanbase and blocked the developers from including it

My reasoning:

There was an interview with one of the old team members floating around a while back that said the developers had imagined a lot more characters were LGBTQ+ but weren't allowed to state anything in the games

Ranger Akers made the entire Moon Lake info site you can access at the ranger station

All the articles have different bars as the headers, for instance this one is like a blue flower look:

4. Ranger Akers made a page for himself on the site

5. His page has a rainbow header!

His article isn't the only one that uses the rainbow header, but I like to think he chose it for himself on purpose :) Of course this isn't definitive and he could just be a fan of rainbows, but there's so little concrete LGBTQ+ representation in the games so I'd like to think there are more characters than we know!

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I have a personal theory that Ranger Akers is part of the LGBTQ+ community but 2002 HeR was afraid of backlash from their super conservative fanbase and blocked the developers from including it

My reasoning:

There was an interview with one of the old team members floating around a while back that said the developers had imagined a lot more characters were LGBTQ+ but weren't allowed to state anything in the games

Ranger Akers made the entire Moon Lake info site you can access at the ranger station

All the articles have different bars as the headers, for instance this one is like a blue flower look:

4. Ranger Akers made a page for himself on the site

5. His page has a rainbow header!

His article isn't the only one that uses the rainbow header, but I like to think he chose it for himself on purpose :) Of course this isn't definitive and he could just be a fan of rainbows, but there's so little concrete LGBTQ+ representation in the games so I'd like to think there are more characters than we know!

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absolutely LIVING for you analyzing Noisette. keep it up, baby!

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this is a safe space for Noisette discourse

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that could be, but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to me. She was tried as a collaborator after the war so I don’t know if she’d have many friends left from the resistance afterwards. Even if she did, her last words were one of the vital clues, implying to me that she meant only for people to find the treasure after she died (she also mentions in the letter being scared of what people would say if they knew she had hid the glass), meaning that all her contemporaries would be around her age (her obituary said she was 85) and at the very least that would make the catacombs diving very difficult!

but I definitely wouldn’t say you can’t think that if it’s what makes the most sense to you! What I love about these games is that some of the open ended smaller mysteries throughout are left for the player to decide. But no matter what I will say it’s ridiculous that she was the director of public works and didn’t do anything to designate the moulin as a museum or some other public space after she died if she really wanted people to find the glass lol

Noisette is Bad at Making Treasure Hunts

I'm really not sure if Noisette actually wanted anyone to find her treasure, or if she still harbored a ton of resentment and fear towards the city and wanted to clear her conscious before death by making it appear that she had done the work to ensure it would be found without actually making it possible for someone to do so. If she really wanted the stained glass to be returned, she could have just written in her will "the stained glass is in xyz, please give it back the following places:"

Instead, if her goal really was to have someone find the hidden stained glass after she died (as she states in the game in her final letter) she was bad at following through on her goals. The fact that Nancy was able to do so is due to so many contrived coincidences that would completely make it impossible for her treasure to be found in the real world. To find her treasure you need:

a) access to her moulin. This is in IMO her stupidest move in the whole game, she was director of public works (or something like that) and instead of trusting the moulin to the city when she died she did nothing and let it go to auction to a private buyer. Literally the only person in the entire game who gives a shit about her and the treasure (Lynn Manrique) can't do anything to find it bc Noisette didn't ensure that the treasure would be accessible to the public

okay, so maybe she intended for whoever purchased the moulin to find her treasure. Nope! because...

(Okay, I have a lot of thoughts here and this ended up being really long so the rest is under the cut!)

b) you would also need access to another completely private residence, Hans's old apartment. Nancy is lucky that Dieter still lives there and he works in the fashion industry, which coincidentally the owner of the moulin is in. But what are the odds of that?? Also, it states in the game that Hans went to Germany after the war and never returned to Paris. So did he just hang on to an empty apartment that whole time or did Dieter randomly end up in the same apartment as his grandpa? Paris was fine with a German soldier occupying an apartment during the war and never wanted to re-allocate it afterwards?

okay, so there's someone that has access to the moulin and Hans's apartment, they can find the treasure, right? Nope!

c) you need a very specific mechanic key to open the panel in the apartment wall. A key that for some reason only Hans had? She never spoke to him again after the war, so I'm assuming in order to hide her diary afterwards she had her own key, but that's not a part of the treasure hunt or clues at all. Nancy got Hans's key out of pure coincidence, so how was someone else supposed to open the panel? okay, someone living there managed to open the panel, maybe some construction workers discovered it during renovations. So can they find the treasure? No! d) The panel is locked, and you need to 1. know that the hazelnut symbol refers to Noisette and 2. know her life story to the point that you'd know her life fell to shit in 1945. if you weren't connected to the mystery, good luck!

So you made it in the panel, you have her diary, and you have the paper with the eyes. That doesn't help at all unless you...

e) know what Noisette's last words were! If that was an important clue, why not write it down somewhere??

also...

f) YOU NEED A FRENCH RESISTANCE WWII DECODER. Noisette was said to have died recently when the game came out in 2006. You're telling me that in the sixty years between the end of the war and her death she never once noticed that no one has one of those just lying around? She couldn't have changed that step or at least hidden "ma cherie" in one of the lock boxes? In the game we get incredibly lucky that we just randomly stumble on one, and even in that case it's known to be so rare that we need to jump through hoops to get it.

That's all well and good, but there's more! g) you need to be able bodied enough to use ladders, swim through tunnels, and more. And you also have to be willing to break the law and go into restricted areas of the catacombs, AND swim through flooded areas?? of the catacombs?? where they have dead bodies?? who would do that?? h) once you do that, you need to have a working knowledge of the metro system, otherwise you need to go back and do it all twice. And that's assuming that there are no line changes or renames in the time between making the puzzle and someone finding it! You also have to hope that no one has made any changes to the art in the park in that timeframe

Okay it took a while but you found the treasure!!

I) Now you're locked in so you better hope you know how to use the code she likes to get out, otherwise you're stuck there forever and you're dead. If you didn't pick up a random code book while visiting the park, sorry!

This ended up quite long, but my overall point is that it would be completely asinine to assume anyone would be able to discover the treasure. Even Nancy finding it was contingent on a ton of random coincidences and deus ex machinas that would be unreplicable in the real world. I love the puzzles and the vibes of this game but the I hate the plot and after writing this I'm realizing how much I really hate Noisette as a person lol

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Noisette is Bad at Making Treasure Hunts

I'm really not sure if Noisette actually wanted anyone to find her treasure, or if she still harbored a ton of resentment and fear towards the city and wanted to clear her conscious before death by making it appear that she had done the work to ensure it would be found without actually making it possible for someone to do so. If she really wanted the stained glass to be returned, she could have just written in her will "the stained glass is in xyz, please give it back the following places:"

Instead, if her goal really was to have someone find the hidden stained glass after she died (as she states in the game in her final letter) she was bad at following through on her goals. The fact that Nancy was able to do so is due to so many contrived coincidences that would completely make it impossible for her treasure to be found in the real world. To find her treasure you need:

a) access to her moulin. This is in IMO her stupidest move in the whole game, she was director of public works (or something like that) and instead of trusting the moulin to the city when she died she did nothing and let it go to auction to a private buyer. Literally the only person in the entire game who gives a shit about her and the treasure (Lynn Manrique) can't do anything to find it bc Noisette didn't ensure that the treasure would be accessible to the public

okay, so maybe she intended for whoever purchased the moulin to find her treasure. Nope! because...

(Okay, I have a lot of thoughts here and this ended up being really long so the rest is under the cut!)

b) you would also need access to another completely private residence, Hans's old apartment. Nancy is lucky that Dieter still lives there and he works in the fashion industry, which coincidentally the owner of the moulin is in. But what are the odds of that?? Also, it states in the game that Hans went to Germany after the war and never returned to Paris. So did he just hang on to an empty apartment that whole time or did Dieter randomly end up in the same apartment as his grandpa? Paris was fine with a German soldier occupying an apartment during the war and never wanted to re-allocate it afterwards?

okay, so there's someone that has access to the moulin and Hans's apartment, they can find the treasure, right? Nope!

c) you need a very specific mechanic key to open the panel in the apartment wall. A key that for some reason only Hans had? She never spoke to him again after the war, so I'm assuming in order to hide her diary afterwards she had her own key, but that's not a part of the treasure hunt or clues at all. Nancy got Hans's key out of pure coincidence, so how was someone else supposed to open the panel? okay, someone living there managed to open the panel, maybe some construction workers discovered it during renovations. So can they find the treasure? No! d) The panel is locked, and you need to 1. know that the hazelnut symbol refers to Noisette and 2. know her life story to the point that you'd know her life fell to shit in 1945. if you weren't connected to the mystery, good luck!

So you made it in the panel, you have her diary, and you have the paper with the eyes. That doesn't help at all unless you...

e) know what Noisette's last words were! If that was an important clue, why not write it down somewhere??

also...

f) YOU NEED A FRENCH RESISTANCE WWII DECODER. Noisette was said to have died recently when the game came out in 2006. You're telling me that in the sixty years between the end of the war and her death she never once noticed that no one has one of those just lying around? She couldn't have changed that step or at least hidden "ma cherie" in one of the lock boxes? In the game we get incredibly lucky that we just randomly stumble on one, and even in that case it's known to be so rare that we need to jump through hoops to get it.

That's all well and good, but there's more! g) you need to be able bodied enough to use ladders, swim through tunnels, and more. And you also have to be willing to break the law and go into restricted areas of the catacombs, AND swim through flooded areas?? of the catacombs?? where they have dead bodies?? who would do that?? h) once you do that, you need to have a working knowledge of the metro system, otherwise you need to go back and do it all twice. And that's assuming that there are no line changes or renames in the time between making the puzzle and someone finding it! You also have to hope that no one has made any changes to the art in the park in that timeframe

Okay it took a while but you found the treasure!!

I) Now you're locked in so you better hope you know how to use the code she likes to get out, otherwise you're stuck there forever and you're dead. If you didn't pick up a random code book while visiting the park, sorry!

This ended up quite long, but my overall point is that it would be completely asinine to assume anyone would be able to discover the treasure. Even Nancy finding it was contingent on a ton of random coincidences and deus ex machinas that would be unreplicable in the real world. I love the puzzles and the vibes of this game but the I hate the plot and after writing this I'm realizing how much I really hate Noisette as a person lol

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I used to think I had to balance all the ingredients in Loulou's cakes to match the percentages of all the food types parrots are supposed to eat in the article on Nancy's phone

Nope lol I have since learned that as long as you pick something that isn't deadly to parrots, you can really put just one thing and call it a day. So this is just a handful of dried beans that sat in an easy bake oven for ten minutes and Loulou loved it

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As the culprit made their way towards the state line, thinking that they were about to make their grand escape, they crashed into a pizza truck parked in the middle of the road. Who got in their way? None other than Tino’s grand uncle, the great Vincenzo Balducci. We can see where Tino got his knicks for catching criminals.

#hahahahha

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finding out in the tags that some ppl also didn’t know and still play ungodly amounts of mini golf is very validating, rb to save a life

playing clk and getting violent flashbacks to the first time I played as a kid and didn't know you could buy toys at the general store and had to play ungodly amounts of mini golf until I got five ponies

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haha almost! She calls her a grouch in the actual game but everything else is the same lol

damn Nancy tell us how you really feel

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playing clk and getting violent flashbacks to the first time I played as a kid and didn't know you could buy toys at the general store and had to play ungodly amounts of mini golf until I got five ponies

#secret of the old clock #nancy drew #nancy drew games #her interactive #clue crew

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damn Nancy tell us how you really feel

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He gives out so many tickets to give himself an excuse to go out and see the sun

so jeff is just sitting there all day..... with no windows....

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i call this burger "500 pickled herrings on a bed of mayonnaise and hot mustard"

alternative names were "good luck keeping this together after you take a bite", "pyramid of fish", "how many pickled herrings can I add before something stops me" and "fuck you" btw after this the game just automatically takes the burger away from you and moves on with the dialogue

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It's really not that clever bc she could have just walked through that open archway and not had to do any of that

#it's not like it takes you to a secret room you'd go to the exact place you'd end up at using the arch?? #last train to blue moon canyon #nancy drew games #clue crew #nancy drew #her interactive