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"Tell me father, do you love me?"

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I just had the realization that the Succession girlies would absolutely devour Star Trek’s S’chn T’gai family drama. In another universe people are making Mitski edits of Spock & his siblings

#makes note to consider doing this when i actually get into shit like disc

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Spockposting never stops

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Spock, accepting an award: I would like to dedicate this to my father, who said I wouldn't be winning this award and to not bother preparing a speech.

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Handover knowledge

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Before I go any further I ask for the logic and courtesy of being heard in entirety.

I want to say something about Sarek, first what I have observed through my own Trek experience, and then through a personal lens. I haven't ever shared this outside of my family, I share a lot but I tend not to share personal things, however, I think it's important because people love to rip Sarek out of context and for me, this is one of the many things that made Star Trek so important growing up, it was not just a way for my large and ridiculously extended family to connect, it was more than that. I am not saying he is a good father, I am not saying Spock should forgive him, I'm not an apologist and the second part is up to Spock, who does not exist, but I am saying that sometimes life sucks and the situation is bad to begin with. The rest is under the cut.

Observed: Sarek, for a Vulcan, is a bit outrageous. We see fans who complain about the "Wife, attend" line without considering that he is literally asking if he can kiss her. In public. It is against Vulcan customs to kiss or touch in public. He proclaims her as his wife about every three seconds and spends most of his time gushing over her as much as a Vulcan can be accused of gushing. He adores the very ground she walks on. With Spock, Sarek is proud, ya'll take the lines way too literally without considering that yes, a Vulcan is going to deny any emotion they are feeling. It isn't proper to do otherwise. Yes, he was distant with Spock, yes, he forced him to behave as other Vulcans, but there are numerous reasons for it. Sarek was already on very thin ice for marrying a human woman, the reason he gave to the rest of his species? It was logical to further relations between Vulcans and humans. Sarek didn't know if he would be able to have kids with her, so far no child of the two races had survived infancy. He didn't have an agenda because he was entirely smitten and it sounded like a good excuse at the time. Through much difficulty and a lot of intervention, Spock was born, and yes, Sarek comments Spock seems so human, but if you add the context of how much he loves Amanda, the fact he is a S'chn T'gai human lover, Sarek isn't angry... He's terrified. How is a child that behaves like a human going to survive on Vulcan? What is going to become of Spock? His eldest son Sybok, would come to face exile and an even worse fate. It is common practice for Vulcans to send those who show emotion for conditioning, and if that doesn't work, they are no longer considered Vulcan. Vulcans are so stuck on appearances that they will wreck entire families for it. Sarek knows this painfully well, and he is willing to give up his relationship with Spock to make sure his son has a place in society. He did not do it well, but he did what he knew. If you add in "Sarek" by A. C. Crispin, narrated by Mark Lenard himself in one version, you get to see a lot of this playing out, including a temporary fallout between Amanda and Sarek as Sarek, not wanting anything to happen to Spock, threatens to exile Spock himself, worried that Starfleet will get his son killed. To be fair, they do, to which we know Sarek immediately starts hunting for Spock's katra in desperation, something that most all of Vulcan believes is a myth. It isn't logical, but as Sarek says, logic fails him when it comes to his son. Sarek does whatever he can, bends whatever social moray he can, he argues for the crew's pardon, he pushes and pulls between two governments by the skin of his teeth, and when Sarek is dying, he does not expect Spock's forgiveness, instead he asks Picard to simply show Spock that Sarek loved him. No pressure on Spock. This is a man who quite plainly put would rather die than his family. None of this is fanwork, it's all right there.

Personal viewpoint: So let me say a little about situations like these, and I ask you to be as patient here as you were above. I was diagnosed with aspergers and hypermobility at three, and spent three and a half years in physical therapy. It ran in my father's side of the family, skipping no generations, but some had a harder time than others. On my mother's side it was scattered, and missed her. She thought her youngest child was broken, but was not of the opinion long. I grew up thinking I just had this thing, I was a little weird, stuff was loud and bright, fine, fair enough, the mask would do. But then one night as a little girl Ruth Bader Ginsburg comes on TV and with a smile calls for the euthanization of people like me. On national television. On a commercial. Now I came from a family of Germans and Americans and my half siblings and their mother and their extended family are all Jewish, and I grew up knowing what the word meant. I didn't have to run and ask my parents the definition. I stood there staring at the TV in shock and for the first time I went from thinking I was a bit strange to genuinely being afraid of society. This had been allowed, encouraged even, and she would later become a supreme court judge. I showed the commercial to my mother the next time it was on and as I got older I heard stories and cases of kids being handed live bombs and fireworks, fed dirt and bleach, treated like animals no matter how much education they had, no matter how much they passed as "normal." It wasn't until I was an adult that I decided that I would carve out my own chunk of things. For a brief time, I shared Spock's disgruntlement, but I also understood. We are humans, and if we will hand children live bombs and feed them bleach and call for death, then you're damn right Sarek was afraid. It is too easy to forget as we grow into a world that cries for more and more diversity acceptance that these things were the norm not so long ago, not even decades ago, and that they continue to happen every day, in some societies more than others. Many parents do what they can, whatever they can think of. There is no manual for this, not human nor Vulcan, and Gene knew that very well.

(If you make a Dr. Spock joke on this post I will eject you from it mercilessly. 😉)

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Yeah I'm just not sure how I feel about positioning Sarek as though he'd ever actively resent humanity, especially Spock's humanity. Like, idk, maybe if I got used to some of the newer stuff before his classic appearances, I would, but I can't get behind it.

He adores Amanda, and he seems to love his second wife as well. He spends the Search For Spock engaging in an unprecedented attempt to merge his son's revived body with his Katra; his scene with Kirk where they figure out the Katra shit is packed full of Mark Lenard acting and emoting his ass off to heartbreaking affect; he gets called out by T'Lar abt how illogical this is and he p much owns it. He spends his time in The One With The Whales trying to get the heat off the Enterprise Crew. He assures his son that Being His Son made his actions natural and necessary.

And that Gene Roddenberry interview...it's hilarious and awkward for the first half about sarek's sex life, yeah, but when they start talking abt Spock? How Spock is the first human-Vulcan hybrid to survive, and required intense medical care and attention throughout gestation? Oh my God. Obviously this is soft canon at best but just Oh My God. The intensity of the effort to bring Spock into the world. The audible Smile when Sarek remarks on Baby Spock's resilience; the way he explicitly attributes that resilience to his son being half-human...

Sarek loves humanity. He loves that his son is half human. The most glaring flaw regarding his son's humanity, as revealed in that same interview, was that he wound up deciding that it was more important to raise his son on Vulcan, where he was judged and excluded, so that they could embody IDIC to an extent that many Vulcans had grown accustomed to not acknowledging; he made his son an ideological figure, knowing how much Spock's treatment in Vulcan hurt him, but deciding that staying on Vulcan was more important than not traumatizing his son.

And who knows, part of that may be that since he was still half Vulcan with Vulcan strength, there was still a need to teach him emotional control; obviously a big part of it was about Culture, and Sarek wanting his child to know Vulcan Culture.

All of this characterization and backstory was written before Sybok entered the picture, and before Michael was even a concept, but Sybok does present a very good explanation for staying on Vulcan, and Michael...well, if she's in their family, and they've already decided to stay on Vulcan, then there you go. But I feel, again, like these would be secondary for Sarek; the reason they stayed on Vulcan, ad given from his mouth, was the principle of the thing; the value of embodying IDIC.

So it's like. Sarek absolutely fucked up. And whatever u choose to accept as Sybok's canon (idk abt SNW's Out-Of-Wedlock Sybok; I think mayhe Vulcan divorce, but idk fjdjfndkfjej), and whatever you think about Michael; I feel like it's p obvious that Sarek does better with Humans than Vulcans. Michael is the only kid who still talks to him regularly (Tho this could also be bc DISCO had spock institutionalized since in TOS he was at least communicating with his mom up to 5 years before JTB, and also like idk dnejfnfdjfb my incorporation of DISCO+SNW into personal fanon is limited and patchwork when it comes to Vulcan Stuff). And if I were to point to a glaring flaw in Sarek's parenting, it's that he, as an Ambassador, wanted his family to be a beacon of IDIC, and placed that appearance of their diverse family on Vulcan over the wellbeing of his children, particularly his Vulcan children who received mixed messaging that humanity and human emotions are natural and good, but also that they as Vulcans should not partake in those emotions, and indeed that it is a huge faux pas to do so. He valued the impact of their family living on Vulcan while being Atypical over how this would influence the treatment of his half-human son by his peers.

Again, I'm not sure how much of my opinions are influenced by the fact that I just don't really engage with nu!trek's sarek and don't necessarily consider all of nu!trek an infallible source of characterization and lore (I'm spoiled by the canon-less CATS, I guess, lol. I pick and choose what I consider Canon like it's a buffet line, specifically wrt TOS and Classic characters fjdjfbsjfj), but it just feels out of left field to make Sarek resentful of Humanity.

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Star Trek tos characters according to my sister who has only been witness to a couple episodes against her will. Whether or not this gets notes I will be doing a part 2 and 3 with the next gen and ds9 characters.

Spock

Kirk

Dr bones

Uhh kirk love interest besides spock and the ship. idk she looks like a like a Jen or something

a guy who I think would be named like Carl

looks like a hmmmmmm. Hmm. Len.

snickers

OH ITS THE GIRLBOSS. Lemme remember her name. Did it start with an r? No wait. Uhaira?

spock father

I’ve never seen this woman before but she looks like a Carole.

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Integral House - Aka the S'Chn T'Gai Home from Disco

If I haven't absolutely gushed about this before, here we go.

So they picked a house in Canada (no surprise) to be the home of Sarek and Amanda. Right?

Okay, but this fucking place is called the Integral House. As in Derivatives and Integrals. An integral is the area under a curve.

Also, the dude who built the house got rich off of Calculus textbooks (which we hate him for because my calc, etc books in college were way too fucking expensive.)

But the Vulcans are in a math house. That is all.

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Excerpt from Jake Sisko’s documentary about deep space station living.

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SPOCKTOBER Day 31: Spock

Halloween Edition!! From S2e07 Catspaw 🐈‍⬛

Finally at the finish line!!! This is the first time I’ve made it through any October drawing challenge ☺️ There have been some good spocks, some fantastic spocks, some definitely-drew-this-half-asleep spocks, but I think the most important spock is the spock we spocked along the way. Thanks so much to everyone who contributed to even one day of Spocktober, but special shout out to those of you who made it all the way through!!! Long live SPOCK!!!!!

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Mr. Spock holding a cat. for your troubles.

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