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Chapters: 9/12 Fandom: Dead Friend Forever - DFF (TV), KinnPorsche: The Series (TV) Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence
Chapter summary:
Things come to a head and danger is around every corner at the forest manor.
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Phee left the name ā€œMacau Theerapanyakulā€ behind when he left the mafia three years ago. Heā€™s been living under a false identity ever since, as he studies in university, even making new friends.
Phee has never felt more like himself, but he carries the weight of his secret as it interferes with his close relationship and drives a wedge between him and others. Most crucially, between him and Jin, who heā€™s on the verge of losing entirely.
Now, Phee is heading into the woods with his friends with only one goal in mind: Figure out how to keep Jin from walking out of his life forever.
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DFF Finale and overall series thoughts
I had to sit and process the ending of the show for a while, to really sit with my thoughts and process and decide where I landed. And here's where I'm at:
I didn't mind the ending, but I very much do mind all the dropped plot threads on the way.
The ending felt like a waste of a really thoughtfully put together series. It felt like throwing all the interesting characterization and nuances of the plot away in favor of having a shock "horror" ending. The ending itself wasn't bad - I personally don't mind a more ambiguous ending. And particularly in a show that was so divisive and controversial, leaving people room to their own interpretations was probably the best possible resolution.
What I mind are the threads that were dropped. I mind the jacked pacing of the final three episodes. I mind the missing characterization of Jin. I mind Non's death scene not getting the weight it needed. I mind Keng's death basically happening off screen.
I mind that they gave Tee a ton of nuance only to give him the most brutal ending, when it would've been so much more meaningful for him to die saving White's life. Saving one innocent boy where he couldn't save the other. That would've been a heartbreaking redemption for the darkest character in the show, who was shown to do all of this even though he didn't want to.
I mind that they had Phee kill New when it would've been more meaningful for Phee and Jin to get New out of there and get him psychological help. The thing they couldn't do for Non - helping him to recover from his trauma and maybe, someday, move forward.
I mind that they gave us such an ambiguous ending when something concrete would've been so much better! Like from a horror perspective I don't mind the ambiguity, but from a storytelling perspective I find myself really dissatisfied. I would've liked to see:
Tee dying to save White
Phee and Jin getting New psychological help
Jin admitting that Keng groomed him as well (which is a headcanon but is a way better explanation for Jin's hallucinations. Though I don't entirely mind that his hallucination were a manifestation of his guilt)
The survivors having to face actual justice. Fluke living but being put in jail for his part of things. Jin facing consequences for his part in Non's undoing. New facing consequences for the people he killed.
I know, I know. That's not a horror ending. But it would've been way more satisfying AND a better resolution than what we got.
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Chapters: 8/12 Fandom: Dead Friend Forever - DFF (TV), KinnPorsche: The Series (TV) Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Phi Ratthakiat Phromjinda/Jin Jinnaphat Sukmek, Jin Jinnaphat Sukmek/MacauTheerapanyakun, Minor or Background Relationship(s) Characters: Phi Ratthakiat Phromjinda, Macau Theerapanyakun, Jin Jinnaphat Sukmek, Tee Pariphat Wanit, White Watcharin Siriphan, Por Prachaya Suwannarat, Tan Siriwat Phatthanon, Top Sirawit Wibulsilp, Fluke Phakhin Thianthong, Vegas Kornwit Theerapanyakun, Pete Phongsakorn Saengtham, Arm (KinnPorsche: The Series)
Chapter summary:
Phee and Jin return to the house and face their next biggest problem: figuring out who is working against them.
Work summary:
Phee left the name ā€œMacau Theerapanyakulā€ behind when he left the mafia three years ago. Heā€™s been living under a false identity ever since, as he studies in university, even making new friends.
Phee has never felt more like himself, but he carries the weight of his secret as it interferes with his close relationship and drives a wedge between him and others. Most crucially, between him and Jin, who heā€™s on the verge of losing entirely.
Now, Phee is heading into the woods with his friends with only one goal in mind: Figure out how to keep Jin from walking out of his life forever.
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Seeing spoilers on Twitter from the fan screening šŸ‘€ Iā€™m excited šŸ¤­
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Chapters: 7/9 Fandom: KinnPorsche: The Series (TV) Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Arm/Tae Taechin Lerttravinont, Background Pete Phongsakorn Saengtham/Vegas Kornwit Theerapanyakun, Arm & Pete Phongsakorn Saengtham Characters: Tae Taechin Lerttravinont, Arm (KinnPorsche: The Series), Pete Phongsakorn Saengtham, Time Thaweewat Ratanapakorn, Original Characters, Vegas Kornwit Theerapanyakun, Tae Taechin Lerttravinont's Father, Tae Taechin Lerttravinontā€™s Mother, Kinn Anakinn Theerapanyakun, Pol (KinnPorsche: The Series), Khun Tankhun Theerapanyakun, Porsche Pachara Kittisawat, Chan (KinnPorsche: The Series), Big (KinnPorsche: The Series) Series: Part 10 of Love & Blood
Chapter summary:
Arm and Tay get to know each other better, and relax into their new relationship.
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Arm was drunk. He wanted to dance with someoneā€”he was warm, it was hot in Hum Bar, and he wanted a body against his own. But most everyone else was either dancing alone, or already with someone else, so Arm couldnā€™t scratch that little itch for human contact.
That was, until a slim, silver-haired man in a loose white jacket appeared in front of him with a pretty, angelic little smile. ā€œHey, sweetie. Dance with me?ā€
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OR: The night of the party, Tay gets fed up with Time flirting with someone else and decides to make his boyfriend jealous.
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Hi, I'm not sure if you know: censoring words like 'porn' and 'coercion' in your posts is not necessary on tumblr and is actually detrimental to people who don't want to see those things, as it bypasses the filters you can put up. There isn't an algorithm for your posts to be filtered out of, if you want to make sure people searching "porn" don't see your post, all you have to do is NOT tag it with that. Was unsure if you knew.
Hmm I didnā€™t know that. I usually find that if I donā€™t censor those words my posts get suppressed and no interactions, which is very similar to Twitter. Iā€™ll uncensor it for the filtering end but Iā€™m not convinced Tumblr doesnā€™t suppress it šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
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Did you see Taā€™s Live? He says that from Pheeā€™s perspective, Non cheated on him. Jin posting the video was bad but Non being in the video was worse for Phee. There was definitely complexity and nuance around this situation that is lost on a lot of people.
From the audience perspective we know itā€™s grooming but not from the characters.
Oh yeah I saw, twitter has been on fire since then because Non fans are attacking Ta over it šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø
Ta confirmed what I suspected about Phee's characterization - that he viewed Non as cheating on and betraying him, and from his point of view the view wasn't "that bad" because it showed him the truth of the situation and revealed Non's lies to him. Which is shitty of course because Non was in a sucky situation, but does add a lot of nuance to his character and his connection with Jin.
I was just talking to another friend about how I looked up the revenge porn laws in Thailand. And BIG DISCLAIMER that I can only research things in English so I don't know that I fully understand, but from what I gathered there weren't laws against it up until recently (the last few years) and even then the laws aren't really enforced often. Which is shitty because the laws were made because someone had a video posted and then k!lled herself afterwards...
But I feel like that, plus the age of consent difference, plus the generalized attitude of Thailand about sex (them having big issues with prostitution and coercion especially of minors) kind of explain why the characters react SO differently to the international audience.
Anyway, it rings true for me. I think in a lot of ways Non's biggest betrayal wasn't sleeping with Keng, it was lying about it. Because I think if he told the truth to Phee when Phee caught them the first time, Phee would've forgiven him and been on his side. But he didn't. He lied and manipulated Phee, and then Phee found out about it.... and that was really the end of them.
Mostly I just feel bad because Ta is getting hate for what he said on Twitter, when to me it's just character insights. But yes! It was good to hear his thoughts.
Thanks for the message! šŸ’•
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I've been thinking about a Jin headcanon because I know we won't get much of his home life or backstory in the rest of the show.
I think Jin is neglected by his parents. He shows a lot of signs of emotional neglect (easy attachments, desperation for affection and attention, wanting to be accepted and loved). Also because Jin is shown to be out late, coming home at odd hours, even having Phee stay over on a school night and no one seems to bat an eye or notice.
I think the only place that Jin feels accepted is at school with his friends, and even that started to fade because of everything with Non. But because he's used to feeling lonely, not cared for, unimportant, and out of place, he doesn't leave his friend group. Because it's what he's used to, so it's what he feels like he deserves...
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Would Non want this?
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This question has been echoing in my head, ever since I made the post about New disregarding what Non might want. To me, that was a really damning moment in the narrative for New, because it puts him in a long line of people who have used Non for their own ends, for their own gain. It shifted his goal from "righteous revenge" to "selfish revenge" and since that put him in line with everyone else who didn't care about Non's agency or his desires, to me it marked him for death.
I've heard a lot of responses to that, including "revenge is always inherently selfish so that doesn't change New's character" and "Non is dead so what he'd want doesn't matter." And I disagree. Because narratively, what Non wants does matter. It's half the point of the show, that Non wanted to stay involved in the movie, didn't want to give up his script, that people pushed him around and framed him and coerced and manipulated him - stripping him of his agency at every turn. Even the people who thought they wanted the best for him (Phee, Jin) pushed what they wanted onto Non.
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So even if Non is dead (and I'm not convinced he is), yes his agency and what he'd want matters. The problem is, of course, that we don't know what he might want.
We can speculate. Because of course, Non wrote the script, condemning everyone to die. He brought a knife into the woods, intending to use it to murder Por, Tee, Top, Fluke, and Jin.
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But despite this, when push comes to shove, Non backs down. When Jin darts forward to apologize, Non lowers the knife. Despite the fact that Non wrote Jin's death into the script, and crossed out his face along with the others, Non couldn't kill Jin even in the midst of his psychotic break.
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Yes yes I know Non didn't know what Jin did to him, but despite that, Non had clearly decided Jin was guilty by association, but he couldn't pull the trigger.
In the further flashbacks, when we see Non working with Tee to repay Uncle Joe, we also see he has a note that he keeps nearby to motivate him. And that note says nothing about revenge. Non simply wants to get out and move on with his life. He also has Tee right there in front of him, and doesn't try to kill him. He hits Tee's chest, but even that is pathetic in comparison to pulling a knife on him before...
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So all of that leads me to believe that Non didn't want revenge. He wanted to move on with his life. He didn't have that kind of violence in him. He was a gentle kid at heart, pushed to the breaking point.
But for the sake of argument, let's say Non DOES want revenge. Let's say that he wants the group of friends to die for their crimes. Because he very well might.
I think some people are missing some crucial pieces of information here. Because while Non might want the group to die, I don't think that would extend to Phee.
Non loved Phee. They broke up. And even if Non viewed Phee sleeping with Jin as a betrayal (and he might not, since they broke up AND there's some muddiness there because of Non sleeping with Keng - don't come at me, it's coercion, but the narrative establishes that Phee views it as cheating, so that's why I mention it) - he might not want Phee to die for it!
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Non might not want the person he loved to die a bloody death because of his mistakes. Even if he hated Phee for sleeping with Jin. That might very well be too far for the boy who hated feeling like a burden on the people he loves.
But okay, let's assume Non DOES want Phee to die along with the others. He might not want his older brother to be the one doing it.
As I said above, Non hated feeling like a burden. He hated the idea of people inconveniencing themselves because of him. Do you really think he'd like the thought of his older brother throwing everything away, his entire life, and now his future? Non might not want New, the last member of his family, to destroy himself that way. There's no one else to carry out that revenge for Non, but if Non weighed the choice between his brother having a successful future vs revenge...? I'm not sure what he'd choose.
There's a lot of complexities to the question of what Non might or might not want. And while I personally think he wouldn't want revenge, because Non was at his heart a gentle person until he was pushed to the absolute brink... I think there are layers to the revenge that he may or may not want. And I think that desire matters, and it frustrates me that people are once again taking Non's agency out of the story.
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Also want to read your analyses!!! As long as you keep them coming Iā€™ll be reading. šŸ˜
I honestly find it very tragic how everything escalated with Non and the group. Like the bits that we did see of their short film, it was quite a decent piece of work by high schoolers. Por had a solid sense of direction and how he wanted the film to look, and Fluke and Jin did a lot of work on the editing and special effects. They couldā€™ve really stood on their own.
Sorry it took me so long to answer this!!! I'm going through my backlog now, I feel bad, I just wasn't in a good mental space last week. But I'm doing better now!
Anyway I agree with you. They made a really good movie out of not very much stuff. They had funding and access to a location which put them ahead, but generally speaking that movie was still good for a bunch of teenagers. If they could've gotten past their prejudices, they could've probably become really successful content creators and eventually worked on actual films together.
But that's the tragedy of the story, right? That things could've easily gone so differently if only people hadn't been shitty...
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Chapters: 7/12 Fandom: Dead Friend Forever - DFF (TV), KinnPorsche: The Series (TV)
Chapter summary:
Phee and Jin struggle to make it back to their friends. Jin tries to understand what he learned about Phee.
Work Summary:
Phee left the name ā€œMacau Theerapanyakulā€ behind when he left the mafia three years ago. Heā€™s been living under a false identity ever since, as he studies in university, even making new friends.
Phee has never felt more like himself, but he carries the weight of his secret as it interferes with his close relationship and drives a wedge between him and others. Most crucially, between him and Jin, who heā€™s on the verge of losing entirely.
Now, Phee is heading into the woods with his friends with only one goal in mind: Figure out how to keep Jin from walking out of his life forever.
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Me last week: idk who is and isnā€™t doomed by the narrative in DFF
Me this week: Yall I think New is doomed by the narrativeā€¦
Am I a clown? Maybe šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­
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Tbh I shouldā€™ve written more in my original post. My point wasnā€™t that heā€™s the same as the people who bullied Non (because obviously thatā€™s ridiculous and New hasnā€™t done anything bad to Non other than being an absent brother). My point is that New is no longer playing the tragic hero role in the narrative.
Nonā€™s entire story is that of people making choices for him, manipulating him, not respecting what he wants, etc. thatā€™s how he got pushed so deeply into all the bullshit that happened. Itā€™s what happened with Por and the camera, Tee and the money laundering, Keng and the coercion, etc. Phee does it in the past, trying to make Non transfer schools and lying to the police (which is what ends up making Non disappear in the end). So it made me wince when not only did New say heā€™s no longer thinking of what Non wanted, he goes so far as to be entirely flippant about it by essentially saying ā€œwho cares?ā€
Iā€™m not debating that New has a right to want revenge for himself. But from a narrative perspective, his cause is no longer ā€œpureā€ because heā€™s not crusading for the victim, heā€™s crusading for himself. DFF doesnā€™t always follow horror tropes by any means - but considering how heavily theyā€™ve weighed the wrongs done to Non and the agencies taken away from him, Newā€™s disregard for Non is a sin within the narrative.
Iā€™m pretty sure heā€™s going to die and fail next episode because of it. Because the only person who now cares about what Non would or wouldnā€™t want is Phee. And I know that makes the audience mad - people want revenge, I get that. But DFF has never been a revenge slasher, itā€™s written too gray for that.
Even if DFF was written to be a typical revenge slasher, Newā€™s less ā€œpureā€ motivations might well doom him. And DFF isnā€™t that, itā€™s much more complex.
Hereā€™s a great post about Newā€™s place in the narrative and horror tropes.
(Iā€™m also not convinced Non is actually dead but thatā€™s for another post).
For all the people cheering New on to get "justice" for Non...
I'm just going to leave this here.
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New is just another person pushing what he wants onto Non, doing what he thinks is best with no regard for what Non would want. He's focused on what he lost, on what happened to him.
He's no better than the rest of them. Remember that.
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Iā€™ve been seeing so many complaints about Jin not having enough backstory and that heā€™s too flat, and Iā€™m curious to know your thoughts. I personally think heā€™s very developed and believe that a character should be able to stand by their current actions without needing flashbacks to explain them.
We know that he is a kind and gentle person who held (and still holds) idealistic notions, and that he effed up real bad with taking the video, and has been feeling guilty and haunted ever since. We know that he develops feelings deeply for people but always makes sure that they reciprocate. We know that he doesnā€™t like uncertainty when emotions are involved and wants clear communication and has a bit of a jealous streak. We know that when placed in physically dangerous situations, he will jump in immediately to defend and help people. We know that he loves photography and honestly a lot can be explained by his having an artistic soul.
I guess a recent example Iā€™ve seen of a character thatā€™s very developed with absolutely no flashback backstory is Tongā€™s character Hong from ManSuang. Obviously very different context and character but I loved how much we knew about his essence as a character and person without needing scenes about his childhood and how he grew up.
Anyway sorry for the length, and thank you for your wonderful DFF thoughts and analyses!
Thank you for sending this ask šŸ’• I've been thinking a lot about this too, honestly. I have some mixed, complex thoughts lol so let me try and explain them.
Firstly, I agree with you that we get a lot of Jin throughout his actions. I fully disagree with people who say that Jin is flat, or that he doesn't have impact on the narrative, or that he's a side character. Jin's always been a very central main piece of the plot. He's the everyman, reacting to the bullying the way most average people would. Acting selfishly and selflessly by turns. He's the catalyst that drove them into the woods. He's the only person who feels guilt and carries the weight of the past (among the bullies). He tries to be a good person, and fucks up bad by turns.
And as you said, we get tons of personality from Jin throughout his actions. He's naive and idealistic. He associates sex and feelings strongly. He falls hard and fast. He lives in a large house but clearly has no one checking on him when he comes home late or brings a boy over to stay the night. He shows signs of emotional neglect and unhealthy attachments. He has fits of anger which lead him to do bad things he feels awful about for years afterwards.
He calls himself a coward but when faced with a weapon he jumps in front of it to try and protect his friends.
There are a lot of shadows to his character that paint a full picture, to me. I don't find his character to be flat at all, in fact Jin is still one of my favorite characters because of all of this.
However, I do understand why people are disappointed. Because while we do see large pieces of Jin's character, when you compare him to characters like Non and Tee, where we see their home lives and motivations in detail, Jin definitely looks flat in comparison. I was also hoping that we'd get insight into Jin's home life and learn why he is the way he is, like we did with some of the others. And we didn't (and won't) get that. And that's definitely disappointing.
Especially since today, in a Space on Twitter, Sammon said she regrets not writing Jin in more detail and she views that as a failing. I think that's one reason people are being so negative about Jin's character right now.
BUT, I personally think people are entirely overblowing it all. Jin is a very interesting, complex, gray, sympathetic character in so many ways, even if we don't get that extra layer of depth. Especially given that one of the reasons we have less of Jin is because he does less terrible shit within the narrative as some of the others, I'm a bit šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø about it all.
Anyway! Thanks again for the ask, it was a good excuse for me to actually formulate my thoughts!
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My death predictions for the final episode of DFF:
Fluke will die - he takes no responsibility for his part in anything, he's learned nothing.
Jin will live - he takes credit for his part in things (and I'm still not convinced he posted the video), he's learned and grown and still carries guilt.
Phee will live - He's the only one left who cares what Non would want, and is trying to be a good person.
Tan will die - he's diverged from righteous revenge to selfish revenge. He no longer has the narrative on his side.
Tee will die - despite feeling bad about it, he's done too much bad. He's likely going to die saving White.
White will live - White's an innocent, and as far as we know so far he's done nothing.
Top will die (if he's not already dead).
Non is still alive - but idk how or why. His death scene was too fast, too easy.
Keng is already dead.
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For all the people cheering New on to get "justice" for Non...
I'm just going to leave this here.
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New is just another person pushing what he wants onto Non, doing what he thinks is best with no regard for what Non would want. He's focused on what he lost, on what happened to him.
He's no better than the rest of them. Remember that.
ETA: I donā€™t mean New is as bad as the bullies, I mean his cause is no longer pure because itā€™s not a moral crusade anymore. Feel free to read my expanded thoughts here.
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The DFF fandom kinda sucks ass, I'm going to be glad when the show is over lmao
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