#(cause one of the key features of the moshiach is liberating the jewish nation from foreign powers ie rome)

[supercantaloupe]

im not gonna link it cause im not interested in getting into shit tonight but i really hate that post thats like “as a jew i dont think jesus was divine or the messiah or anything but i think he was still a cool guy” bc i dont. i think he sucked actually

#sasha speaks #and its not just me being bitter about modern day religious xtianity & cultural xtianity pervasiveness either #dude was first of all not unique; there were a lot of messianic offshoots of judaism around the first century #(cause one of the key features of the moshiach is liberating the jewish nation from foreign powers ie rome) #(which. yknow. jesus didnt do) #but also a lot of the shit people point out that jesus supposedly did as being Good and Sticking It To The Man. kinda sucked for us actually #no the money traders in the temple courtyard were not corrupt they were performing a necessary public service in a central location. #yeah the teachings about being kind to your fellow man and the immorality of obscene wealth i vibe with but like #jesus and his cult were hellenized jews in a cultural context where hellenization (as opposed to non-assimilated judaism) #was a big and uncertain divide at the time #and jesus' cult going so far out of its way to not only accept but embrace hellenization and assimilation for the sake of proselytizing #and growth #directly and actively goes out of its way to divorce itself from the rest of judaism; declare the rest of judaism to be bad/wrong; #and eventually seek to 'replace' it in some way #(maybe other hellenized judaic cults could have survived if the jewish revolts hadnt failed in the first century and the romans hadnt #effectively forced us into diaspora 2 electric boogaloo but speculation doesnt change the fact that non-hellenized judais #m is what survived to the present day as judaism) #also talking about jesus by applying modern sociopolitical labels is just dumb. #the concepts of 'people or color vs white' or 'socialist' or 'anti-capitalist' or whatever. none of those existed in the first century #and it's disingenuous to sincerely call jesus an ancap person of color icon or whatever. #anti imperialist (anti roman empire anyway) was certainly an existing political position back then #but lets stop pretending jesus and his cult were anti rome. they were hellenized. they were hellenizers. #they actively changed their religious and cultural practices to embrace hellenic culture and make itself more attractive to hellenic culture #if jesus and his cult were really anti roman imperialism then maybe jews wouldnt STILL be harassed for being 'gd killers' today #but we are. so. guess they weren't lol #anyway. jesus sucks. hate that guy