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ace attorney spirit of justice post

i was going to play the whole game without bothering to post about it, but now i've had enough thoughts that i have to put them somewhere. they are disorganized and out of order and include full spoilers.

the game would have been $30 on switch but it was like $16 on iOS. what did i miss out on for saving my $14? i don't care. there's only so much you can miss out on when it's a visual novel. also, i remembered the reason i didn't play this game when it came out on iOS several years ago. it's because the app is very careful to list which iOS versions and devices the game will work on, and it will warn you not to purchase content if you're on any other version or device. and that was before i had gotten my first job, so i didn't have ~$16 to spare on a game that might not work. so i forgot about it. anyway i took the plunge this time and it worked fine on my ipad whose iOS version is not on the supported list.

i didn't start writing this post until the middle of the 5th and final case. i think we're about to defend dhurke in court and i have to note that i love that idea. and there's the fact that the justice minister was such an evil son of a bitch and now he's dead and that's kind of objectively good. also, the character designs in this game are quite good, especially the outfits.

red flag: when mere bailiffs in your "peaceful" country are carrying assault rifles at all times. they don't even do that in america. as of 2023.

i liked apollo's near-drowning cave adventure. and dhurke saved him with his left arm, which seems to be fine and only lives in a makeshift sling for stylistic reasons. on a gut level i'm displeased that the solution to the puzzle box requires one of the panels to be half-turned, even though i know puzzle boxes don't have strict rules any more than any other kind of brain teaser.

datz is so cute for a 46-year-old insurgent. he has the biggest mouth ever. that one face he makes strongly evokes enel one piece's big moment, but that's fair. now listen closely to me. up until recently, an important personal policy of mine has been as follows: "NO HOT DADS!" it's a hard-and-fast rule related to my personal taste/distaste and nothing else. but i think a really fun and good ship would be the dilf x dilf ship of datz x dhurke. so i can make a small exception. they can have a revolutionary ossan love that is perfectly righteous, true, and appropriate. maybe. (i do know that datz is no one's dad.)

i love apollo justice. he's the best and the cutest. i love his forehead and his vest and his antennae. but in real life, people with naturally very loud voices are unpleasant to be around <3 tone it down <3

when we see that photo of dhurke looking like apollo's spitting image with little apollo and little nahyuta and datz is like "yeah there he is with his Biological son nahyuta (Zero resemblance Whatsoever) and his Foster son apollo (clone)" it's like (everyone in the audience side-eyes each other) uh-huh… that being said, i don't remember anything that was said about apollo's family history in previous games apart from lamiroir being his and trucy's mother. also dhurke's eyebrows are trifurcated while apollo's are only bifurcated. that's plausible deniability. maybe jove justice is dhurke's brother or something? [he's not.] and if queen amara was dhurke's wife, was she nahyuta's mother, and then, were her genes 100% dominant so that nahyuta looks like a clone of her and not like dhurke at all? [note added in later: it seems that was the case.]

ace attorney games sure do include characters' ancestry as twists a lot of the time. maybe it's unavoidable in a human drama?

i think 35-year-old miles edgeworth has glasses because they couldn't think of any fun talky animations to give him so they had to give him some glasses-adjusting poses

how much taxpayer money is nahyuta spending on international flights for ema skye every 2 days

the idea of channeling an ancient figure like the founder or kee'ra is so fun and cool. i can't help but feel like it probably won't come to that, though. also, the fact that they preserved her true face not on any flat painting but on a mini sculpture in the round inside a tricky snowglobe thing was really cool. now they just need her name and maya could totally channel her. or i guess the queen could. [note added in later: of course they didn't channel her. ace attorney always has to step right up to the plate and not even swing.]

the high priestess carries on the rich tradition of being a smug know-nothing, a tried-and-true charming character archetype. i can get behind it. she's doing her best. her english voice actor was no good, though. are there no little girl voices available?

it's very interesting to have a revolution subplot (or rather, underlying main plot) where we the audience can and should eventually be like, "oh. the revolutionaries are very clearly and obviously the ones who are correct." though in the end, even after the revolution succeeded, it's still a monarchy.

i wonder how people with dissociative identity disorder feel about uendo in the fourth case. the story didn't go into the fact that in order to end up with DID, someone generally has to go through a staggeringly traumatic childhood. though you could kind of get that impression from owen… i don't know. i heard about a case where a victim with DID testified as many of her different alters in a court of law, in real life. is it disrespectful to portray DID in fiction at all? it's fair to say that in most cases, they do a shit job. i didn't feel like it was really played as a joke in this case... except for the way he used it conveniently for his rakugo characters... i guess that does count as playing it as a joke.

the 4th case must have been fun to localize, huh? you can't pretend rakugo is anything but rakugo.

you know, i thought that maybe i had been imagining it and that i was longing for something i shouldn't have expected, but after comparing nahyuta's reactions in court, i really do think van zieks's reactions in DGS were not as satisfying as they could have been. it's like, he's the most stoic prosecutor we've ever gone up against and there was absolutely nothing silly about his reactions (except throwing glasses of wine all over the place, which, like i said, gets old. and it's not that funny in the first place. it's more... aggressive.) like at least nahyuta's most drastic reactions are a little bit humbling, a little bit humiliating, you know? he loses his composure. van zieks doesn't lose his composure in that way.

they certainly did a good job of making nahyuta a lovably aggravating opponent.

is any ace attorney case NOT a locked-room mystery? good grief

nahyuta says, "Her Eminence thinks highly of my prosecutorial skills." but didn't you lose 3 or 4 cases in this game already? and one guilty verdict you got was nullified the next day?

when we were opposing phoenix in court and he got really upset and put his head in his hands… that was so alarming! it's like, we're not him! ah! we can't go over there and be him to fix it! for once, we don't know what he's thinking when he's breaking down like that! though it was easy enough to figure out.

the fact that khura'in is totally a theocracy is glossed right over. like check it out! we're a deeply religious ethnostate where there is no line between church and state! but don't worry— everyone in the whole country agrees that it's ideal… right? like even if they bring back defense lawyers, there still might be some problems worth addressing.

edgeworth let out a Nghoooooooooh! and it was cravat-related! it was all worth it just for this.

i have to kick phoenix wright's ass and also apollo justice's ass because they climbed into a manhole and cave respectively without thinking to bring a light source with them. you can't tell me you didn't expect it to be dark. you can see that it is dark from the outside.

"Founder's Orb left with Datz." とても嫌な予感がする…

the way armie became agoraphobic as a result of a different phobia (in her case, fire)… that really hit hard for personal reasons… huegh

oh so datz brought us back the Orb after all. i am honestly shocked.

dhurke's tit shadow

ok so they had to kill off dhurke so he can't live happily with datz. and they had to go on and on about his everlasting het love with amara. maybe that dilf x dilf ship was a pipe dream in the first place. but what else am i supposed to do when i come across not one but two characters who make me want to bend my no hot dads rule?? give me a break.

i cried when apollo left the nest to start his own musty law office. make all your dads proud, apollo...!

in the great ace attorney, there was the sad ex-jailer who was wearing an implausibly perfect facial disguise in which even the shape of his nose was greatly altered, and that pissed me off due to its implausibility. in this game, there was another implausibly perfect disguise, which was queen amara posing as nayna, wherein her facial structure, eye color, nose, body type, posture, and weight were all perfectly disguised. there's a limit to how good disguises can be before it becomes BS. narratively.

now i'm in the bonus story and we're up against edgeworth and he took his glasses off for the trial. (slams table) what? why did they do that? what is the logic behind this? glasses aren't only a leisure time thing. glasses are an all the time thing if you need them. and whether you're near-sighted or far-sighted, you need them in the courtroom, as important objects and people appear at both near and middle distance. does this imply that edgeworth's glasses are cosmetic only? even then, there's no reason to take them off before a trial! if you're going to change his character design, commit to it! ahh but the edgeworth shrug, smile, and shake head movement is wonderful as always. ok, could it be that the glasses did not render nicely in a 3/4 view so they gave up and excluded them completely? i think that has to be it. they couldn't get glasses to work in a 3/4 view so they gave up. weak...

(you have unlocked: minor pet peeve: when characters with glasses take their glasses off without good reason. no one who wears glasses in real life would do that.)

edgeworth told the judge that he doesn't plan on getting married. of course this is because it's still illegal to get gay married in japanifornia :( so he can't officially get gay married to his common law husband of many years, phoenix wright.

i don't have any large overarching opinions to sum up about the game except that it's an ace attorney game as good as any other, and as such, it was worth playing. it felt a lot more similar to the older games than the great ace attorney chronicles did.

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aceprosecuties · 6 years

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Idk if you're still doing blackmadhi stuff, but imagine this: Nahyuta being just as tsundere as Rayfa is.

I KNOW THIS IS LATE AF BUT I HOPE YOU STILL ACCEPT MY HUMBLE OFFERING )

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Atfirst glance, the royal siblings of Khura’in could not have been moredifferent.

Asidefrom their striking eye color, there was little in their features that wouldtell strangers that they were blood related. Rayfa carried her father’s black hair; Nahyuta’s was more akin to hismother’s. Nahyuta was tall and carried acertain grace and elegance that seemed to elude Rayfa, even after their releasefrom their aunt’s clutches.

Andtheir personalities – sharp tongues aside, there was nothing they appeared tohold in common. Rayfa had a short fuse,easily angered and impatient when things did not fall into place the way thatshe imagined they should. Nahyuta had acalmer demeanor on the surface; passive aggressiveness was his forte, and whenhe went for the throat, he did so with a smile that would mask the harshness ofhis words.

But ifone were to look closer…they would see more similarities beneath the obvioussurface.

Rayfahad developed a deep fondness for Phoenix Wright, despite how she would oftenyell at him and call him names. He wasthe first person she sought when she visited his home, and demanded that he showher around, ignoring him when he said he had work to do. When she thought no one was looking, shehanded him a trinket from her home, blushing furiously and refusing to look athim. When he thanked her with a smile,she whacked him with her staff and told her that the bauble reminded her of himbecause of his “stupid, spikey hair, not because you ever cross my mind” andscurried away before he could say anything else.

Yes, itwas clear she truly liked the blue attorney.

Nahyuta,on the other hand, seemed to keep people at a distance. Call it distrust, perhaps, but he stuck withhis official duties and kept mostly to himself otherwise. Once in a while, one would be able to catchhim with Miles Edgeworth, but those meetings were held with a certain air of professionalism.

Soon,though…he began to find himself in the presence of one Simon Blackquill.

Whatwas interesting, though…was that his interactions with the former ‘twisted’samurai were noticeably different than with anyone else.

Histongue was sharper and he almost seemed to delight in making the dark-hairedman scowl. Their battles would have leftmany dead if their weapons had been swords and armies rather than words. One would think they were great enemies, butNahyuta sought Simon out, greeting him with some sort of backhanded insult thatSimon always saw through.

“If Ididn’t know any better, Sad Monk, I’d say you were infatuated with me.”

That,of course, caught Nahyuta off guard. Hisface colored and he seemed to become angry in the way he sometimes would whenhis opponent would trip him up in court. He clutched his prayer beads tightly in one hand, growling at theconfident smirk that crept up onto Simon’s face.

“You…youread too much into things, Panda!”

Evenhis voice was uncharacteristically loud.

Theurge to throw his beads at Simon was high, but he refrained, only because heremembered them being cut mid-air the last time he tried such a thing. But he still whirled around and brisklywalked from Simon’s sight.

Thatone comment was not enough to keep him away, however.

Nexttime he saw Simon, he decided that he did not need to knock on Simon’s officedoor, choosing instead to just barge in unannounced. Simon was surprised at first, but soon wasgoing to scold him for the blatant lack of respect, but Nahyuta slammedsomething onto Simon’s desk, a furious shade of scarlet tinging his cheeks.

“What’sthis?”

“Anapology, I suppose.”

Simonwas about to ask for what, but then looked at the offering. It was a small golden statue of a hawk withsilver intricacies lining the features. Truly an impressive (and expensive) piece of craftsmanship.

Simonadmired the golden bird for a moment, before glancing up to see Nahyutastudying his reaction closely.

Again,that insufferable knowing smirk reared its ugly head.

“It’sthis a bit much for an apology, Sad Monk? To me it seems a bit more like a gift.” He almost laughed when Nahyuta seemed to stiffen, grabbing onto hisprayer beads so tightly it was amazing they did not break under the pressure.

“I justdid not want any bad blood between us, Panda. It means nothing else,” Nahyuta hastily said. Judging from Simon’s facial expression, heclearly did not buy the explanation as the full truth.

“Well,regardless,” Simon said, a rare genuinesmile forming his lips as he looked from the hawk to Nahyuta. “Thank you, Nahyuta.” Beneath all the roughness and sarcasm and thephysical memories of a horrible past, Simon was a kind and handsome man. It showedthrough in these rare moments, and Nahyuta was a rare blessed one to see such asight.

Feelinghis face warm even more, to the point where his entire body began to feeluncomfortable, Nahyuta practically stormed from the room, telling Simon not toexpect any more from him.

Because,it wasn’t as if he ever thought about the stupid samurai prosecutor.

Just asRayfa swore she never thought of the blue lawyer whenever she brought him agift.

Yes, ata closer glance, there was more connecting the two siblings than it appeared.

#ace attorney #blackmadhi #nahyuta sahdmadhi #simon blackquill #rayfa padma khura'in #royal siblings #blackmadhi asks #my writings #allie answers #I wanted to try to compare them directly so I hope this is okay!#also I kind of like the idea of rayfa having a crush on phoenix (not reciprocated of course)#but you can interpret her as just having a hero thing with him or something!#also this was different from how I usually interpret Nahyuta's interactions #so this was super interesting to try for me! :D #nightshadereaper

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