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stimmypaw · 3 years

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Warriored Cat Thoughts: A Reply To A BrambleFan

I read this fan article about Brambleclaw, and I wrote some thoughts about it and OP liked it so I decided to share them here also. All below but summary is that his development made sense, even if it upset the fans, people just missed some of his darker qualities probably.

First thing that I notice in this article is this: "In a relationship, there are two people (or cats) trying to work together, and it’s a two-way street. Fights are usually made when one person is struggling to meet in the middle, and a lot of the time, the fights resolve themselves and both people in the relationship grow and learn from their mistakes." Now this is very confusing, why does a relationship need the participating parties to fight? When I'm not managing to uh "meet in the middle" with someone I care about I try to talk to them, I never get into a fight with my loved ones, the one time that happened in my life things were very wrong and turned very unhealthy! I can't understand your argument that it's more realistic and healthy for Bramblestar and Squirrelflight to fight, interesting maybe because it's drama sure, but realistic and healthy I don't know. I don't remember the books I haven't read in a while but this argument doesn't seem to make sense to me. If fight was just a word for "Communication" you should have said that instead. Warrior Cats has some issues doing proper communication and it's definitely not where I'd go to learn about it but uh as the article continues, OP seems to think it is: "But the fact that they reconciled in The Last Hope continued and stayed faithful to the message of how fights are important for those in a relationship to grow and understand each other." I think the cool thing here instead was that they reconciled, that Brambleclaw was able to process what happened and feel better and grow to understand and trust his mate enough to want to be with her again, let me know if that's not exactly what happened since it's been a while since I read OOTS but I think the message here shouldn't and isn't that fighting with your loved ones is good. It's not good, it's ok that it happens sometimes but it's still a bad thing and you should solve your issues in another way, waiting for problems to break into a fight is not healthy or necessary in any way shape or form. If that's how any of you live, please change. Then, OP describes what he calls "the Onestar effect", in which a character becomes leader and loses their development as the authors pay less attention to them, consequently becoming a jerk Personally howerver, I think Onestar was made a jerk on purpose and, while it seemed a bit sudden it makes perfect sense plot wise :o He was young and inexperienced. He worried a LOT about his image. And there was a lot of pressure, and a whole coup, because of how nice and friendly he seemed specially to Thunderclan. I'd be very surprised if he still managed to seem nice and friendly after that, I think if he tried to do that he probably wouldn't have managed and Windclan would have coup'd him out eventually. He became a jerk and unfriendly as a result of all the other happenings in his life and that is very reasonable and uh in my opinion some good character writing. I think that could be the case for uh Brambleclaw being an incompetent leader too. OP says it was just for conflict but, it feels a bit like uh just his development in Bramblestar's Storm which was uh not fun I'll say that here I didn't have fun reading Bramblestar's Storm I thought it was kinda boring, but it's what happened to his character and his actions followed his development from there I think. He wants to be loved as a leader just like Firestar was. This bit actually I think has always been kind of there in his character? He feels hated because of his origins and he really REALLY wants to prove himself and feel better no matter what he has to do to get there He learns some lengths taken for respect aren't worth taking (like accepting attention from your father's evil deceased spirit) and uh I think the ending of Bramblestar's Storm tries to tell us he learns he is already respected and a good leader and he just needs to chill a bit. And maybe the thing from AVOS is that he's kind of too chill sometimes, his son is exploding with anxiety because of the prophecy and he's like "Calm down kid it's just a lil Starclan

you'll figure it out" like it isn't a real issue that is affecting all clans as he speaks. I've heard people say this is him being a bad father but I think it's him being a bad leader, he's like a pretty average father in my eyes not particularly bad just kind of uh not very existent maybe but that's the average for Warrior Cats fathers, Alderheart seems to think kindly of him and their relationship but we don't actually get to see them uh bond that much, they have a fun interaction once or twice I think??? It's like, really average. Hm, in conclusion, Brambleclaw has always been average! A cat with flaws and qualities, and uh a lot of his flaws stayed and some got worse or more visible with time. As the readers grow our vision of the stories do too, and things won't always be the way they seemed when we were kids.

#as a kid i thought ashfur went bad out of nowhere #mostly because i had a vision of him before reading where he was really evil and bloodthirsty and uh the books are more subtle #and i couldn't catch that when i was younger #i wasnt expecting the fire scene at all #and this is one of my many reasons why i think kids shouldn't read warrior cats #at least not without an adult to supervise it #wc #warrior cats #warriors #brambleclaw #bramblestar #alderheart #oots spoilers #avos spoilers #tnp spoilers

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