#YOU'RE JUST FEEDING IT DATA OR HAVING IT PLAGIARIZE OTHER PEOPLE

[trackerkitsune]

"chatgpt helped me write this!"

"beta read by chatgpt"

"translated by chatgpt"

Are you fucks *insane*

Chatgpt makes shit up on the fly and will fuck with your words no end

It does not know the proper grammar to translate into other languages and will bullshit you harder than a billionaire

STOP THAT

#STOP USING AI FOR FICS #YOU'RE JUST FEEDING IT DATA OR HAVING IT PLAGIARIZE OTHER PEOPLE #I s2g #why are yall this stupid #did you not SEE the fucking #chatgpt falsifying court cases #post on this hellsite #you think your fanfic is gonna read well?? #good fucking luck #ask a buddy to beta read it instead #even if they don't know the fandom they might be able to help with grammar #sentence structure etc

[txttletale]

so, re: ai art, what you're saying is that we can just take whatever someone has made and do whatever we want with that, and there's no reason to stop anyone from doing that? i don't mean to argue or whatever, just trying to understand your point of view because so far i have a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that you both create things and don't care about the ai scrapping because, in your opinion, it would happen anyway. so we could take whatever game you wrote and feed it to ai?

yeah basically i love it when people take things other people have made and do anything they want with them. i think plagiarism is bad but i have a pretty strict definition of plagiarism and AI scraping doesn't fall under that -- like, when something is used in an LLM, that thing doesn't get 'copied' or anything, it just becomes one set of datapoints about which words are more likely to go next to others. that's what an LLM is, a gigantic statistical model. and AI art works in a similar way -- in either case, your work isn't stored in the AI as a work, it's stored as a single datapoint in a gigantic statistical model about which words / pixels are likely to go next to each other in different labelled contexts. it's no more 'stolen' than if someone made a really big spreadsheet and included information about your artwork in it.

so yeah, if most trusted advisors was fed into an LLM's training data i wouldn't really care. i would be basically neutral about this happening, it doesn't affect me in any way. on the other hand if someone used parts of most trusted advisors for collage art, or for found / blackout / cutup poetry, if someone trained an LLM specifically on it as part of a small curated corpus to create a specific type of text, if someone just really liked a line or phrase from it and nicked it for a novel or poem or play or game of their own, i would basically think that was ultra awesome.

#ask

[loverboy-inc]

hi! character.ai and other ai bots do not add user text directly into its training data. data is curated purposefully to generate good results, which would be really easy to screw up if you could just feed garbage into the input box. the only input they're collecting is based on how you rate responses via thumbs-up or stars. writers should obviously be able to opt out of having their work scraped for training data, i'm not arguing on the data security ethics here, but you're not contributing to the death of literature just by using ai chatbots, and your own responses are not going to get copied and pasted into other people's chats. while legal standards regarding ai are still being written, i think spreading misinfo to scare people isn't really helping.

anon look me in the eyes. do you trust the creators of character AI, former google employees, to tell you everything about how their program works. because, especially right now, i sure as hell don't.

this isn't just about character AI, but that's the easiest example because dozens of people i know have used it. hell, i used to use it, right when information was coming out about chatbots and how they work. then i stopped, because the chances of someones writing being plagiarized by a bot just so i can have a silly fun conversation with a chatbot is something i don't want to contribute to, considering i am also a writer. i've been a writer in fandom spaces for over ten years, i've been making fanart for longer than that, and with how AI is developing, with how easy it is for bots to steal ones works these days, any risk whatsoever is too much. there's a blatant disrespect for people who write in fandom spaces, and we're seeing it even more prevalently now. it's an exhausting state of the world, anon.

i'm not claiming anyone is contributing to "the death of literature" for using bots. i am saying that peoples work gets scraped, and it's happening more and more with recent developments in googles privacy policy, and that if there's a chance something could contribute to that situation, then maybe we shouldn't be using it.

#bishop.txt