#but maybe we could also keep dangerous weapons away from potentially dangerous people while we're addressing those issues

[sammysdewysensitiveeyes]

I am too tired and frustrated to write up a real rant, but I just want to point out, after yesterday’s mass shooting that killed 19 children and a teacher, that we Americans have been taking our shoes off to go through airport security for like 20 fucking years after ONE failed attempt at a shoe bombing that killed no one, but we can’t pass any kind of sensible gun control laws after multiple mass shootings, multiple school shootings killing small children.  Instead we’ve made mass shooter drills a regular part of school for these kids.

I’m not even a “ban all guns” type of person, I respect responsible gun owners, and I’m not trying to take their guns away.  Protect yourself, go hunting, target shoot, as long as you use and store your guns safely I don’t care.  I’m just tired of all the bullshit disingenuous arguments about how a gun is just a tool, people will find any way to kill someone if they’re determined, etc, etc.  Yes, but the gun makes it a lot easier to kill people, doesn’t it?  The gun makes it easy to kill a lot of people very quickly, even while they are trying to run away, doesn’t it?  The Las Vegas shooter didn’t kill 60 people throwing knives out the window, did he?  Can we at least admit this is a problem instead of dancing around the issue every time, and demonizing the mentally ill by pointing at them as a scapegoat.  We banned lawn darts and Kinder eggs after a few children died, but we are selling bulletproof backpacks to kids rather than address how many guns we have in America.

I’m tired of The Onion having to repost this article

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668

#sorry I'm just tired #I know there are many factors we need to address to stop this #but maybe we could also keep dangerous weapons away from potentially dangerous people while we're addressing those issues #we pretend it has nothing to do with the guns while ignoring all the other countries without mass shootings and it's ridiculous

[kaypeace21]

Okay but if Will does get taken by the government with El because Joyce signed a dodgy document before s2 then we're probably gonna get 3 awful things that WILL kill me: 1) Her screaming and being physically restrained from going to him, directly paralleling when Bob died, 2) Hopper also gave information on his child to the government before he adopted her, so both will have much guilt, ow, 3) Brenner's emotional manipulation AF like 'your parents practically gave you away' I am not ready

1) Oh. Interesting- but do you know what would be sadder that might be the actual callback they do. The scene in s1, when everyone thought Will was dead “gone”. Aka mothers hugging their sons.

Jonathan and his mom (after Will’s ‘death’)

Mike and his mom (after Will’s ‘death’)

so… Yeah, Will & his mom hugging may be brought back as a visual cue…of that loss and dispair

2) Hopper’s probably going to die, unfortunately.  Theory here. Brenner is trying to kidnap children with the least amount of backlash- in a ‘legal’ way. In the prequel novel ‘Suspicious Minds’ Hawkins lab made the adult subjects also sign non-disclosure agreements however they didn’t read the fine print either. So when Dr Brenner, finds out that Alice (an adult) has powers, this is when the he essentially legally kidnaps her as her ‘psychiatrist’.

- “We’re here for Alice Johnson. I have paperwork that authorizes us to take her into the custody of Hawkins National Laboratory. Commitment paperwork”

-Commitment paperwork- a legal process through which an individual who is deemed by a qualified agent ( Dr. Brenner, the psychiatrist) to have symptoms of a severe mental disorder and is ordered by a court into treatment in a psychiatric hospital  or in the community.

So essentially Joyce signed paperwork, that the second it’s verified he has powers, under the law there is nothing she could do to get him back – she inadvertently gave custody of her son to a monster. And everyone would buy the story, his own school knows he goes to monthly psychiatry appointments- he’s had meltdowns in public (like on Halloween).And his mother has been rumored to have psychiatric problems herself. He’s an evil genius!

And , if Hopper dies who will get custody of El? The united states government! And who works the united states government -that’s right Dr Brenner! You can read more about Will and El being kidnapped theory here.

3) Yes, he will 100% use this against them.  I briefly talked about the emotional manipulation Brenner would do to them in s4 here.

But to add more to that post.After reading ‘suspicious minds’ - it just reiterates the theme of ‘house of stairs’ (a novel referenced in the Will comic). Brenner’s plan will be condition the children to start subconciously doing small commands, and slowly escalating it to more significant commands, then bringing out their more violent tendencies so he can shape them into violent weapons who will only attack under his command. I’m still withholding a lot of plot points for my masterpost-theory for s4  but here’s a little taste… from the ST prequel novel…

Becoming Weapons

- “When it’s our government involved, I think you’ll find our rights are often to be determined.”

-“So…do you guys think it’s odd that the feds would be spending time on this with the war going on? Shouldn’t they be working on weapons or something instead?” Ken lowered his voice, even though they were alone. “Maybe they are.” Terry scoffed, “Is it me or Alice who’s the weapon? Or Gloria?”

-”then Terry’s boyfriend said that thing about weapons and she had realized maybe she was beginning to feel more like a weapon.” 

-He came to her side. “I’m going to need you to lay back for a few minutes while we add a new…treatment.” “You want to turn me into a machine,” Alice said. “But I already am one. We all are.”

Brenner (The psychiatrist)

- “I’d spoil the experiment if I told you. I’m going to need you to take my word for it that our work here it’s crucial to the safety of our nation. It can’t be disrupted for any reason.”

–“The hospital gowns they were forced to wear during the experiments were an affront to dignity. This was a fact, not just Gloria’s opinion. She could’ve done a double-blind peer-reviewed study to prove it.” (Gloria was studying biology in college, so she knew what she was talking about.)“

-Brenner took her arm and marched her back to her room, where he kept her awake for the next thirteen hours, refusing to let her sleep. ( common technique of mind control, and to get people to admit wrong doing, it’s considered a form of torture).”

- “We’ve given you a powerful hallucinogenic. We have evidence it can open the mind to suggestibility.”

- “make them suggestible and exert control…But we can’t get the results we want without the right people, period… It is nothing to manipulate a weak mind. We need those with potential.”

-”She’d feel much lighter. The first stage to creating a mind susceptible to greater manipulations.”

- “Dr. Martin Brenner wished he could see inside the minds of the subjects. No messy conversation to extract what they might or might not have seen, how effective the hypnotic techniques had been… “

-”Brenner didn’t understand children, because he didn’t feel like he’d ever been a child. He’d considered kicking Terry out. But he’d invested too much effort and already she seemed more malleable.”

- “But they’re experimenting with our memories, our minds —it makes sense they’d want to control us. If they could use regular people to do their dirty work…”

- “What transpires here will be a secret. You will maintain this knowledge and complete a task without discovery, but you will have no memory of me requesting it”

 -”Having powers put you in danger. Even being near people that had powers put you in danger. And being discovered by people who wanted to control those powers put you in even more. Of that she was certain.”

-”Men like Dr. Martin Brenner got you in their clutches and didn’t let you go, especially if you made enemies of them. They could fight him, and they would, but they might lose. She wanted to know how hard he’d work to keep them under his thumb.”

-”She already felt confident that Dr. Brenner was no Professor Xavier to mentor anyone.”

Will will be El’s greatest weakness- and Brenner will use this against her to keep her from rebelling

*Brenner’s conversations with or about Terry (El’s mom)

-“He’d underestimated her.He needed to get her back under control.The best way to do that was to distract her, give her bigger problems. He knew everything she cared about most, because she’d told him. The solution was obvious.”

-“Russians have developed a theory that mothers and their children have a mental link with each other…in different rooms they killed the babies to see if the mother felt it… killing rabbits, like keeping children prisoner for experiments.”

-”Brenner gazed at her steadily. “I bet you don’t know what you’d do without him. Say it. That you don’t know.” She couldn’t seem to stop herself. “I don’t know what I’d do without Andrew.”  He smiled at her. “Now, close your eyes and go deeper like a good girl. I’m done with you for today.” 

Forcing Will to do LSD to manipulate him and strengthen his powers

-”We have a few more young patients transferring here for a related program, but I’d like a range of ages. There is every reason to believe that a combination of chemical psychedelics and the right inducements can unlock the secrets we need.”

- “Then there was Brenner’s use of the word “cocktail.” What exactly was in the Hawkins special acid blend? “Who has the medical cocktail?”

-”She nodded and handed the glass back, smoothing soaked hair away from a cheek shiny with moisture. Tears and sweat both. Extremely susceptible to the drug cocktail.”

*cough* Will’s comic*

His name is Martin Brenner- the comic draws Will with a ‘cocktail’/martini… thanks I hate it -_-

Do you know what’s worse? The book ‘House of Stairs’  also has other darker elements, I didn’t even get into… like s4 is going to kill me. It will be waaaay worse for Will and El then s3 will be . I CAN’T! They’ll survive but-

#will byers #joyce byers #el hopper #stranger things theory #jane hopper