#but while like... no one in this game is a good person (except for forneus. <3 we love cat mom in this household)

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The Truth about Fodlan

This is certainly something a lot of people have discussed and looked into. Ever since the release of Three Houses as well as the Cindered Shadows DLC, people have been looking over ever detail they can find to figure out how Three Houses fits into Fire Emblem as a whole. Some believe it’s simply a different world, some believe it isn’t and there has been debates about everything for a while. Today, I would like to bring up some information that possibly clears up the confusion around Three Houses.

To start off, let me simply lay out the premise now. What if Fodlan is Jugdral 3000 years after the events of Genealogy and Thracia? I know that sounds crazy but think about it. In Awakening, a game that was suppose to be the last game in the series and give us one last look at the world that started it all long after Marth had passed, there is barely any mention of Jugdral. We travel all over Archanea, now called Ylisse, and go to Valentia, now called Valm, but we never see anything Jugdral related. The only time we ever see such a thing is during Chapter 22. The chapter where we face Risen Deadlords and some of them are wielding Holy Weapons: specifically, we see Valflame, Gungnir, Helswrath, Balmung, Yewfelle. Now whether the Risen Deadlords are the actual Dead Lords used in Genealogy and converted to Risens or simply a new take on the Dead lords of old is up to debate. The question here is, how did the Grimleal get their hands on 5 Holy Weapons from Jugdral when we have no mention of them throughout the game.

To this, I ask another question: how come the Three Archanea Regalias and Hauteclere are absent from Awakening yet rusted versions of them can be found in Three Houses? These weapons never have appeared outside the Archanea games (the sole exception being SoV but the fact they have to be forged makes their canonicity dubious at best) yet we can end up finding them by battling special monsters and forging the rusted weapon they drop. What’s even more confusing is how the in game description for Hauteclere reads “An Empire Wyvern Corps Axe, wielded in the War of Heroes, that has a high hit rate and might.” These weapons were used during events of the games. Mercius was used during the War of the Eagle and Lion and Gradivus was used by a defender of Fodlan’s throat. Parthia lacks a sort of description but 3 of the 4 having such descriptions means these weapons were used throughout Fodlan’s history. But that begs the question of how these weapons ended up in Fodlan? One would guess that, since they could be forged in SoV (something I don’t consider cannon) that it means they were forged in Fodlan and yet we have no one that takes credit for them. They aren’t considered Sacred Weapons forged by Maculi, They aren’t Heroes Relics made by TWSITD. They are not stated to have been made by the only other legendary Blacksmith, Zoltan. Meaning these weapons have to be the orignal Regalias and Hauteclere. 

With this we now have two questions from both Awakening and Three Houses. How did 5 of the Holy Weapons end up in Archanea and How did the 3 Regalias and Hauteclere end up on Fodlan? First off look at 4 of the Holy Weapons given: Balmung (a Sword), Gungnir (A Lance), Helswrath (A Axe), Yewfelle (A Bow). Then you have Mercurius (A Sword), Gradivus (A Lance), Hauteclere (A Axe), and Parthia (a Bow). Here’s my idea. During the War of Heroes, TWSITD likely wanted to give an edge to Nemesis and his army in the form of more powerful weapons. This lead to them getting into contact with the Grimleal in the early days after Grima’s first defeat. The Grimleal, likely aware of Jugdral’s amass of Holy Weapons, offered a trade. The 3 Regalias and Hauteclere for 4 Holy Weapons. Given that TWSITD likely did not know or simply could not make use of the full power of the Holy Weapons agree and threw in Valflame as a sign of good faith as well as an item they likely would not need, seeing as all of Fodlan operate on non-tome magic. Of course, the description for Hauteclere shows that the shipment carrying the Regalias and Hauteclere did not make it to TWSITD and said weapons ended up in the hands of the Empire. While some would say TWSITD wouldn’t be dumb enough to give away Holy Weapons, remember these are people who were arrogant enough to try and fight Sothis. From their perspective, they would simply see a group of people offering really powerful weapons with no real requirements and asking for weapons that nobody can make full use of in exchange. Then there is the questionability of TWSITD even having Holy Weapons and to that I say this: The Heroes’ Relic and the Holy Weapons act in such a similar manner that it’s very likely TWSITD found the Holy Weapons, found out what they were and how they worked and figured out they could replicate them if they took the remains of Nabateans and crafted them into weapons. Once they figured out how to do this, the Holy Weapons were just taking up space. 

Now that’s only the first piece of evidence but it’s certainly the biggest and one that took time to explain. These next ones will be much simpler and quick.

The second piece of evidence for this theory is the maps of Fodlan and Jugdral. When you compare both maps, they are very similar in shape. Given that we have examples of continents ending up with different names and changing over time, Archanea being Ylisse and Valentia becoming Valm. Given how Jugdral would have an additional 1000 years to change comapared to Valentia and Archanea, it’s possible that Fodlan is Jugdral after that long of a period. The only other thing of note here is how Thracia and Almyra play similar roles for Jugdral and Fodlan. Thracia tries to invade and conquer the Munster District while Almyra tries to invade the Alliance. The difference being Thracia does it due to lack of food while Almyra does so as a show of strength. Not as strong of evidence as the first example but it was still worth mentioning.

The final example is how the Nabateans were created. We know they were created by Sothis via her blood. Now, the first question would be why Sothis did it this way. If this was any world, why not simply have kids the traditional way as we’ve seen with almost all dragons in FE outside a few notable exceptions (Grima and Lilith being such exceptions). Well, playing devils advocate and saying Fodlan is within the world of Archanea, then people would quickly remember a certain issue that plagued dragons alongside the degeneration: their loss in fertility. These two factors are what lead to dragons becoming Manakete and stepping to the side to allow humanity to become the leading race in the world. Given how many crests there is in the game, there simply no plausible way for Sothis to have so many kids and possible descendants unless she went the blood route. Not to mention this explains why none of them are Divine Dragons like Sothis. (Yes the whole debate of if Sothis was a Divine Dragon or not is a thing but given how we’ve seen how dragons like Mila and Naga can not only control the passage of time but repair the lands as Sothis did after the war with TWSITD, it’s more or less pretty open and shut case Sothis is a Divine Dragon). 

Now as for how she discovered the whole creating dragons through blood method, there is only one known instant of a dragon being created this way before Sothis: Forneus. What’s even a odder coincidence is how Sitri, Byleth, and Forneus’ names are names of demons in the Ars Goetia. Sitri and Byleth being connected via this piece of trivia makes sense. Forenus, on the other hand, a person who only just got named during SoV’s post game, is something to think about. Regardless, Sothis had to have found out or find something that would give her the idea of creating the Nabateans via her blood somehow and Grima and his creation is a very strong possibility. 

Now some might bring up how they’re called Nabateans and not Manaketes or how the Crest Stones are something we’ve never seen before. To answer the Nabatean and Manakete thing, Manaketes are usually referred to as dragons who sealed their draconic powers into dragon stones. The name is likely just to avoid confusion. Ultimately, it’s a name. The core that makes Nabateans the same as dragons is the method of which they transform. We’ve seen how crest stones are integral to this, given what happens to Miklan and other characters that use the crest stones and end up as demonic beasts. We know that the crest stones are quite literally the heart of these dragons. What did dragons do to become Manaketes? They sealed their dragon forms in stones and took a human like form. This is the detail many have missed. Nabateans are not just a different race of dragons. They’re how dragons used to be before they were forced to take on the forms of Manaketes. The entire reason we’ve never seen these crest stones is due to the fact that, in Valentia/Valm and Archanea/Ylisse, dragons have either become Manaketes or they were well respected as to not have their bodies scavenged and turned into weapons. 

There are plenty more details I could bring up like Anna’s existing in Genealogy and Thracia, explaining the Anna we see in Three Houses and why she has a crest, and more, I think I’ve made enough points here. Maybe there are details proving this is wrong or something but this post was mostly to bring up a possible idea I don’t think I’ve seen people really touch upon in regards to Three Houses. 

#fire emblem #fe three houses #I personally think this is the right answer #There is just too many details linking to Jugdral for it to be just pure inspiration #This took so long to type out

[summoner-kentauris]

these are more or less notes to self ignore at will

Okay, so Valentia turns into Valm, because, Alm

Valmese Empire fell apart as empires do, Walhart (scary guy red horn hat new unit) united it. Something complicated about a bunch of people with a bunch of identities. Validar (robin dad? hella creepy. seems tharja level obsessed with the Grima dragon) says Walhart (hatboi) wants to conquer things so as to stop Grima. and grimleal. which from my time on tumblr i gather means people who stan grima.

where the fuck did grima come from

grima (the big bad, eats robinsfor breakfast lunch n dinndinn)...is in Shadows of Valentia as a secret boss wtf. wtf is that. wtf is that nonsense. id ont like that. okay. new question

where the fuck did grima come from..

forneus is a person. presumably. forneus is a SoV characcter. wwwwwtf is the poiint of watchng all the walkthoughs of a game if you miss the good lore bits i swear MRMRHfHHRHRRGGG no on point.

forneus. SoV. made some fate/zero vampire zombie bugs. unrelated note stole Divine Dragon (chickens?) blood, and mixed it with some stuff and made baby Grima. ewww. did not look like Chicken as it grew. whisper-voiced inside forneus head, forneus ends up dead he no longer seems important. bet i know someone who would die to get his hands on forneus’ journals. anyway

wait wait roll back forndeedorn kidnapped people for his blood bug project. he also had mage friend buddy working with him way at beginning who ran away wow bet theyre thanking theyre lucky stars dodged a real bullet there huh

forndorn blood is in grima apparently. and therefore robindad and robin

so forndeus ex dragona makes lil baby grima who is fucking terrfiying. lil baby grima can be killed in Thabes Labyrinth in Mamorthod Desert in Archanea which is not Valm because Valm is Valentia. V V. Archanea is Ylisse. desertplace is in the continent of future Ylisse but is not in Ylisse, is part of a country called Regna Ferox. ow my head hurts.

grima. archanean (ylisse). critical point.

anyway the gang goes to thebes and kills babby grima. but baby grima is uber evil so his spirit is just chilling. okay. so. new quesion.

wHErE THe fUcK DId gRiMa cOMe FrOM

1000+later grieemydeem makes pact with someone. who? someone. wants to destroy ylisse. wonder how it knew what ylisse was called. not point. wantss to destroy world. woke up from power nap feeling worse.not point. tries to destroy - well, not world, because there is Valm chililng over there, but tries to detroy Ylisse. fails hard, because of Naga (dragon, missing a tooth because Falchion) and Ylisseian First Exalt.

who is first exalt?

lovely he has no name. this sentence: The First Exalt removed two of the five gemstones in the shield and gave Ferox Gules and Chon'sin Vert sounds literally fake. if i walked up to someone and said oh i gave ferox gules and chon'sin vert you would look at me like i was either losing it or about to start going on about momraths outgraving. wtf. im glad i looked up ferox earlier. i hate the first exalt i dont even know who they are but i hate them. oh. the sentence in front of that one explains what that one means. now i feel silly.

FiEx. first exalt seems to be marth except they havent figured out a way to make him marth without messing up the horrifying timeline things that seem to already be happening in Awakening. key facts about FedEx: --has bloodline pact with naga (dragons are fond of the bloodline pact huh) --members of pact are Branded with magic brand --only FedEx bloodline people can wield Falchion --married pegasus rider with winged spear and basically siren mindchanging powers but written to sound goodguy-like

anyway. FedEx and Naga seal Grima away. again. for another thousand years. nice round number, that. wont forget that. put a timer on for grima yeah?

grima comes back because the grima stans FOUND A FUCKNG COUNTRY HOLY HELL THATS DEDICATION. grima stans found country and do weird sex things and make a little grima vessel baby. godawful time things happen. falchion can seal grima for another 1000 years well. yeet that bitch into the sun while you wait or something u could have black hole space travel in 1000 years u had 2000 already stop criticizing them rigil. so chrome can seal grima with falchion,or grima can permadeath if it kills itself. which robin can do because bonds.

more godawful time things and grima seals/dies again

so thats grima

i have forgetten why i was doing this

OH valentia

which

after all that

i now realize has nothing to do with that at all this seems like a Ylisse problem

although HatBoi is Valmese so there is that

#note to self #worldbuilding references