#caranthir on the other hand can't be bothered

[feanorianethicsdepartment]

Hi! So...Moryo as the nicest Fëanorian? (I completely agree with you I just was wondering as to your validation for it)

i’m not sure i’d call moryo the nicest one, but i’d definitely call him the least awful person of the brothers hellspawn. i tend to define awfulness as partially a function of murders commited, so mags and mae are automatically worse than the twins are worse than the middle kids, with the possible exception of amrod if you assume he got out when the going was relatively good. like i said in a tag once, the fëanorians just get worse and worse until they’re all dead, and the longer they live, the less there’s anything left but their very worst possible self

why’s moryo better than the himlad idiots? tbh caranthir kind of has the vibe of a bog-standard jerk in a family of psychopaths. if you cut out the stuff they all have in common (by which i mean the kinslayings) the worst he’s ever done is yell at people. i tend to go with the idea that he’s a lot better at working with others and making connections than the text is willing to admit, so while he is kind of brusque at the best of times beneath it he’s a pretty reliable guy, which is more than you can say for most of them. he doesn’t have the patience for anything, including the overcomplicated villain shenanigans his brothers get up to

there’s also - these things scale, of course, but out of all the fëanorians moryo is probably the least demonic. murder isn’t something he revels in, even against the orcs; it’s something you do because it needs to be done and you’re too angry for anything else. there’s something almost mannishly grounded in the way he views the world, a pragmatism that even at his worst keeps him from going full hellbeast, and can also pass for altruism sometimes? he’s the leader of the ‘maybe let’s not burn down doriath you fucking morons’ high command faction, and while a lot of his justification therefore is ‘morgoth’s balls we cannot afford a two-front war especially not now’ part of it is ‘didn’t we decide that alqualondë was awful???? i’m not the only one who remembers that right??????’ he does still join in with the murder, that is a black mark on his record, but he probably comes the closest to realising they could just. leave the silmaril alone. caranthir’s the least worst, at least partially, because he fell the least. ‘s what i think anyway

(the ‘nicest’ fëanorian, in an interpersonal sense, is probably either maglor or celegorm, depending on how bro-y you are? they would both rip anyone in their outgroup to shreds if they thought it served their purposes though. the one with the most ethical backbone in a pinch is probably amrod, and there’s probably some kind of epic tragedy in how he went from ‘guy who snuck back onto the boats in direct defiance of his entire family’ to ‘guy who allowed sirion to happen’)

#ask #caranthir #house of feanor #fics where moryo is anti kinslaying give me LIFE #you go evil logistics guy you tell em #i need to write more about amrod #and my conceptions of the twins more generally #amras is probably the feanorian i'd want to hang out with #he tries to do the same thing as mags and tyelko #y'know acting completely friendly up until they stab you #he's just way worse at hiding his actual intentions #caranthir on the other hand can't be bothered #with him what you see is what you get #niphredilien

[tolkien-feels]

(dont' feel like you have to do all of these if they're hard ) 22, 95, and 99 for Anaire, Nerdanel, and Earwen (I was thinking friendship, but now I'm thinking polycule would be cool too. So whichever you're feeling). 89, 55 for platonic single parents Aredhel and Turgon. 53, 64, and 79 for Russingon. 59, 27, and 37 for Haleth and Caranthir (friendship or romance, whatever works better)

Oh boy here we go, this post will get long......

Nerdanel, Anaire and Earwen

How do their personalities compliment each other?

This is surprisingly hard. I tend to group Nerdanel & Indis, and Anaire & Earwen, so I'm trying to imagine a whole different dynamic from scratch, pretty much.

Nerdanel brings in a quiet insightfulness the others can't be bothered with. Anaire is pragmatic and confident. Earwen is probably the one always pushing for the three of them to Do Things.

Who has the car ready while the other is robbing the store?

I mean, Earwen has boats and I can't seem to picture anyone else just because of that lol That's such a silly answer but my brain is refusing to let me go anywhere but there.

Who is the more social one?

I literally headcanon Anaire would fade if she was cut off from society, but Galadriel gets her "I want to rule others!!!" instincts from her mom, so something can be said about Earwen being a close second.

Aredhel and Turgon

What is an inside joke they have?

They straight up are keeping track of every embarrassing incident the other has been involved in the past millennium. You tripped on a tree root once seven centuries ago? You'll never be allowed to walk through a forest without that being brought up.

Side note that they regularly team up to bully Fingon too.

Who would start a fight with another parent at a bake sale?

Aredhel starts the fight (and wins it), but the one still holding a grudge two centuries later is Turgon.

Maedhros and Fingon

(For those playing at home: the asker sent me an alternative question so I could keep this platonic)

Who swears more?

In polite society, neither. In semi-polite society, Fingon. In impolite society, it's about the same.

What is their favourite cuddle position?

I am a huge proponent of platonic cuddling, but I also headcanon the Noldor are some of the most standoffish people in Arda. So this is just non-cuddly touching but for Noldor that registers as Practically Cuddling Wow.

Fingon strikes me as the type to grab people's hands/arms/shoulders For Emphasis. Pay Attention To This Important Thing He's Saying. This also results in Implying he's communicating something Important if he just does the grabbing without saying anything.

I've mentioned a few times that I headcanon growing up Maedhros was unusually tactile for an elf, so back in Valinor he was all for arms around shoulders, back pats and generally having no strong concept of personal space, especially if they were like, hiking or doing some other physical thing as opposed to just talking. Alas after Angband 99% of that stops.

This all sounds so tame, but like I said. Noldor. Princes of the Noldor of feuding Houses!! This is A Lot as per how I headcanon Eldarin societies, I promise!

Who has better fashion sense?

Um. Hard question. They're both extremely conscious of how they present themselves. I feel like Maedhros has a very polished fashion sense tailored to express messages, while Fingon is just... doing whatever he likes and setting trends along the way. It's a timeless vs trendy situation.

Haleth and Caranthir

Who can rap better?

Well, in theory, Caranthir could have perfect enunciation while delivering insanely fast raps, but not only is he uninterested in rapping, he's also just not cool enough. He would essentially recite music very fast rather than actually rap.

Haleth? She's invented hip hop in Arda, I think. Have you seen her attitude? Are you kidding me, I'd listen to her rap a grocery list.

What other couple would your otp get along with?

I tend to very much headcanon if they were in love they would just never tell anyone including each other, which makes this hard to answer. But the funniest answer would be Haleth and Andreth befriending each other and Caranthir and Aegnor glaring at each other like they would commit murder if their girlfriends wouldn't get mad. Bonus points if they accidentally become friends, much to their horror.

How do they cheer each other up?

They both strike me as the type to have Let Me Fix This as their main love language. If that's not doable, just earnestly saying "Damn, that sucks" works too, because Validation™️ - if it's bad enough their go-getter crush can't find a solution either, then at least they know they aren't being melodramatic or incompetent.

#ask game